'Why I Quit Streaming And Got Back Into Cassettes' (404media.co)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/12/24/219224/why-i-quit-streaming-and-got-back-into-cassettes
- Source link: https://www.404media.co/why-i-quit-streaming-and-got-back-into-cassettes/
> There are lots of advantages to the cassette lifestyle. Unlike vinyl records, tapes are compact and super-portable, and unlike streaming, you never have to worry about a giant company suddenly taking them away from you. They can be easily duplicated, shared, and made into mixtapes using equipment you find in a junk shop. When I was a kid, the first music I ever owned were tapes I recorded from MTV with a Kids' Fisher Price tape recorder. I had no money, so I would listen to those tapes for hours, relishing every word Kim Gordon exhaled on my bootlegged copy of Sonic Youth's "Bull in the Heather." Just like back then, my rediscovery of cassettes has led me to start listening more intentionally and deeply, devoting more and more time to each record without the compulsion to hit "skip." Most of the cassettes I bought in Tokyo had music I probably never would have found or spent time with otherwise.
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> Getting reacquainted with tapes made me realize how much has been lost in the streaming era. Over the past two decades, platforms like Spotify co-opted the model of peer-to-peer filesharing pioneered by Napster and BitTorrent into a fully captured ecosystem. But instead of sharing, this ecosystem was designed around screen addiction, surveillance, and instant gratification -- with corporate middlemen and big labels reaping all the profits. Streaming seeks to virtually eliminate what techies like to call "user friction," turning all creative works into a seamless and unlimited flow of data, pouring out of our devices like water from a digital faucet. Everything becomes "Content," flattened into aesthetic buckets and laser-targeted by " [2]perfect fit" algorithms to feed our addictive impulses. Thus the act of listening to music is transformed from a practice of discovery and communication to a hyper-personalized mood board of machine-optimized "vibes."
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> What we now call "AI Slop" is just a novel and more cynically efficient vessel for this same process. Slop removes human beings as both author and subject, reducing us to raw impulses -- a digital lubricant for maximizing viral throughput. Whether we love or hate AI Slop is irrelevant, because human consumers are not its intended beneficiaries. In the minds of CEOs like OpenAI's Sam Altman, we're simply components in a machine built to maintain and accelerate information flows, in order to create value for an insatiably wealthy investor class. [...]
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> Tapes and other physical media aren't a magic miracle cure for late-stage capitalism. But they can help us slow down and remember what makes us human. Tapes make music-listening into an intentional practice that encourages us to spend time connecting with the art, instead of frantically vibe-surfing for something that suits our mood from moment-to-moment. They reject the idea that the point of discovering and listening to music is finding the optimal collection of stimuli to produce good brain chemicals. More importantly, physical media reminds us that nothing good is possible if we refuse to take risks. You might find the most mediocre indie band imaginable. Or you might discover something that changes you forever. Nothing will happen if you play it safe and outsource all of your experiences to a content machine designed to make rich people richer.
[1] https://www.404media.co/why-i-quit-streaming-and-got-back-into-cassettes/
[2] https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machine-liz-pelly-spotify-musicians/?ref=404media.co
Okay (Score:2)
He's welcome to move back to buggies, so long as he remembers to clean up his horse shit from the roads.
This has nothing to do with tapes (Score:3)
So I'll assume the "tapes" part is clickbait. Or that tapes are the author's first experience with physical media.
Cassette tapes are (arguably) the worst music storage media ever made. Every time you use them, they degrade — and you can't tell by how much, because you can't see or understand the mechanism by which the player works. At least you can see it (the reader contact9ing the media) with vinyl, and CDs/DVDs didn't involve physical contact. Never you mind the possibility of the machine eating the tape. Tapes really are the worst media music was ever stored on.
Now... physical media instead of digital? That, I get. If you want to quit streaming, by all means, I'm with you. But for the love of all things holy, don't go back to tape media.
Reply to add (Score:3)
This article reads like AI slop, which is... ironic...
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"Cassette tapes are (arguably) the worst music storage media ever made."
Have you ever tried storing those original Edison cylinders?
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> Now... physical media instead of digital? That, I get.
Yes, in the sense of a 2TB SSD for holding your FLACs, but that wouldn't score you any points within your social group. This recent obsession with retro media formats is obviously just a fad. The media sovereignty angle is just window dressing.
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> Cassette tapes are (arguably) the worst music storage media ever made.
You obviously didn't live through the 8-Track era.
Although I admit I enjoyed owning [1]one of these [ebay.com] back when I was a young stupid kid... but who in their right mind thinks splitting a song across two tracks was a good idea?
[1] https://www.ebay.com/itm/205046900776
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> Cassette tapes are (arguably) the worst music storage media ever made.
You must to be too young to remember 8-track then. When I was really young at least 2 of my relatives had Victrolas with 78 RPM shellac records. Cassettes were much better sounding and way more durable. If the heavy needle mechanism slipped out of your fingers, it would shatter the record if you were unlucky.
Type 2 and Type 4 cassettes sound a lot better than most people seem to realize. I still have my Dolby-S tape deck I bought in the early 90's. Granted, I haven't used it in years and prefer CD's for th
Re: This has nothing to do with tapes (Score:2)
This.
Chrome or metal tapes with dolby-c/s and HX-Pro are pretty good. Not quite CD quality but you definitely needed a half decent sound system to tell the difference.
I've still got my old deck with Dolby C and HX pro. I've probably got a few chrome tapes left somewhere. I even ponied up for a new metal tape recently to test out the quality of my deck. Sadly, all the rubber belts and rollers have corroded and I can't find suitable spares for all of them.
TL;DR (Score:4, Insightful)
Buy a fucking MP3 player you pretentious twit.
Re: TL;DR (Score:2)
Have you tried 8-tracks
Re: TL;DR (Score:2)
8tracks was absolutely best. Rip
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Reasonably priced and good quality MP3 players are surprisingly difficult to find now.
The best were Sandisk but that entire line has been discontinued.
Now you have a choice between $30 cheap junk that may or may not work for a week, and Sony players that are probably pretty good but the price will blow you away.
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> Now you have a choice between $30 cheap junk that may or may not work for a week, and Sony players that are probably pretty good but the price will blow you away.
I got one of the $30 ones, it's been working for a while now, and I'm happy with it. The interface is a little clunky. I was wondering whether I was just lucky and looked it up. I has over 7500 reviews and an average 3.9 star rating; that seems pretty solid. Looks like they've been making it for several years now.
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> Reasonably priced and good quality MP3 players are surprisingly difficult to find now.
No they're not. We just call them "phones" now.
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You're going to buy a multi-hundred dollar phone just to use it as a mp3 player?
Remember, not everyone buys one of those things to carry it around. They also get used for such things as background music in homes and offices.
You know (Score:5, Insightful)
Phones can actually execute these fancy .mp3 files, and .ogg and even .flac ones, and some even have headphone jacks.
And on the third case, it will literally sound better than streaming (and keep playing if you have no internet)
I buy nusic (Score:2)
FWIW I don't 'stream' music, I buy the MP3s from Amazon, , download them to my PC, and copy them to my phone and other devices.
(I don't use the Amazon music player to play them, on the phone I use Musicollet , and on the PC I use Clementine and Foobar 2000)
(Of course some of my MP3 collection was ripped from CD's that I own)
sorry but this is bs (Score:2)
Tapes were absolutely terrible. They jam inside the player and can be difficult to rewind. You can copy music from a tape, but every subsequent copy made the quality worse. You have to rewind or fast-forward constantly to reach the next song. You have to flip them to listen to the next couple of songs.
This is just a guy flexing on zoomers. If they said CDs or mp3 players, that would have been more believable
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> This is just a guy flexing on zoomers. If they said CDs or mp3 players, that would have been more believable
Right. Honorable mention for minidisc players. I had one of those before flash memory became cheap and remember it fondly.
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Clean and maintain the tape deck and the tape wont jam.
Rewinding and fast forwarding is annoying, so I usually don't do it, just just listen to the tape from the beginning to the end, flip it over (or the deck does it for me) then listen from the beginning to the end. Then insert a new tape and repeat the process.
album experience (Score:2)
For some artists, people are missing out on hearing the album as a whole. I won't make the jump to cassettes, but my local library system has a lot of good CDs and vinyl.
This is dumb as hell (Score:2)
People just want to be different and then somehow convince people that it's cool.
I lived in the cassette era. It sucked.
Re: This is dumb as hell (Score:2)
Really? I lived in the cassette era and it was great. Sure, cheap cassettes and decks sounded pretty bad but chrome tapes in good decks were nice.
Did you not have any friends? Some of my best memories are sitting around with friends trying to work out the best mix of songs and the best way to fit them onto a cassette so they filled both sides with no little blank bits to wait out or skip over before changing sides.
Cassette lifestyle? (Score:4, Funny)
Just fucking shoot me.
Re: Cassette lifestyle? (Score:2)
It's no friendly than the people choosing the interior to CD vinyl. This guy should just buy music and play it on his phone, you don't have to use a streaming service.
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Depending on how your digital version was made, there is an awful lot of compressed, rate limited, digital crap that's lost most of its channel separation out there. I'm amazed at what good tape can do, not that would use it now, but sound quality is deceptive these days. Many people now have never heard decent recordings of really popular music if they only have listened on a phone.
Does Android have a music store? (Score:3)
> This guy should just buy music and play it on his phone
Does Android even have a music store anymore? Last I checked, Google got out of sales in December 2020 when it replaced Google Play Music with YouTube Music, and Google Play's cut of in-app payment for download services made it cost-prohibitive for third parties like Amazon to run a music store.
Or are you talking about using iTunes Store? Last I checked, iTunes had problems in Wine, though I'm not sure whether those are limited to iPhone sync. Is there anything other than Amazon for someone who doesn't own
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What a Bozo. They should simply download the .mp3 files.
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I hear it's all on Anna's Archive now...
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Maybe this will cause a boom in the pencil industry.
Gotta rewind the sag out somehow...