Trump Launches Genesis Mission, a Manhattan Project-Level AI Push (nerds.xyz)
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- News link: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/25/11/25/009227/trump-launches-genesis-mission-a-manhattan-project-level-ai-push
- Source link: https://nerds.xyz/2025/11/trump-genesis-mission-ai/
> President Trump has [2]issued a sweeping executive order that creates the Genesis Mission, a national AI program he [3]compares to a Manhattan Project level effort . It centralizes DOE supercomputers, national lab resources, massive scientific datasets, and new AI foundation models into a single platform meant to fast track research in areas like fusion, biotech, microelectronics, and advanced manufacturing. The order positions AI as both a scientific accelerator and a national security requirement, with heavy emphasis on data access, secure cloud environments, classification controls, and export restrictions.
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> The mission also sets strict timelines for identifying key national science challenges, integrating interagency datasets, enabling AI run experimentation, and creating public private research partnerships. Whether this becomes an effective scientific engine or another oversized federal program remains to be seen, but the administration is clearly pushing to frame Trump as the president who put AI at the center of U.S. research strategy.
[1] https://slashdot.org/~BrianFagioli
[2] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/11/launching-the-genesis-mission/
[3] https://nerds.xyz/2025/11/trump-genesis-mission-ai/
Incredible! (Score:4, Interesting)
Will this AI give us the complete Epstein files?
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> Will this AI give us the complete Epstein files?
Yes. It will deliver the complete and unabridged Harvey Epstein files.
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This is just pushing us closer to the Terminator or "I Have No Mouth and I Must scream" science fiction, but entirely plausible scenarios.
The former, everyone is mostly aware of from the second film due to Cyberdyne. The latter people are less familiar with.
Both basically are "AI takes over and exterminates humanity", both centering on an advanced AI having access to everything. So what is the ultimate play by both? Humanity is a threat to itself, so it must exterminate humanity.
Even "The Matrix" is a more
Evil Genious Time (Score:3)
Mwuhaahaaa ... pats the pussy ...
I am launching the GENESIS project. The biggest greatest most beautiful project ever but first I need some rich Arabs to put $trillions in.
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> Mwuhaahaaa ...grabs the pussy ...
Alternate lede.
Mark my words (Score:3)
This is going to be the most expensive nothing burger the world has ever seen.
Predictable outcomes. (Score:4, Insightful)
Vast amounts of money flowing to companies that will leave precious little as they fail out. The rich who are willing to play the game will get richer.
Haven't heard much about DOGE lately. I'm sure they have an unbroken track record of success marrying disparate datasets of a scale that is microscopic compared to what's being proposed here.
Won't matter who wins in 2028. They're going to inherit sweet fuck all except for a half finished White House.
Re:Predictable outcomes. (Score:4, Informative)
DOGE doesn't exist any longer - [1]https://www.reuters.com/world/... [reuters.com]
[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/us/doge-doesnt-exist-with-eight-months-left-its-charter-2025-11-23/
Part of OPM now (Score:3)
Much of the DOGE commission's responsibility had been moved to the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) for the past several months. See [1]"DOGE 'cut muscle, not fat'; 26K experts rehired after brutal cuts" by Ashley Belanger [arstechnica.com]
[1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/doge-doesnt-exist-anymore-but-expert-says-its-still-not-dead/
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Pretty much an admission that the government had these audit agencies all along so all DOGE was really able to do was not save any money, add more bureaucracy and [1]indirectly kill a bunch of people in other countries. [harvard.edu]
[1] https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hundreds-of-thousands-of-deaths/
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DOGE may not exist, but the damage it did is still here.
Agenda 2025 (Score:2)
You'll own nothing and get paid in tokens.
Should be interesting to see what comes ot this... (Score:4, Insightful)
> The order positions AI as both a scientific accelerator and a national security requirement, with heavy emphasis on data access, secure cloud environments, classification controls, and export restrictions.
This from the administration that fires competent scientists and other government employees despite their importance to functioning government departments, and lets rando journalists into secret online meetings.
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If nothing else, Kennedy and his cronies can duck behind really expensive equipment while flinging feces at each other. We can leave some bones amongst the servers for them to discover and perhaps use to beat each other.
It's spelled Genisys (Score:2)
Who proofread this?
> Genisys is an operating system developed by Cyberdyne Systems, which will connect private, public, and military networks together once activated. However, it will become Skynet upon full activation.
[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCNz-EpgMKQ
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I just hope they prioritize phased plasma rifles in the 40 watt range.
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40W is quite modest. A 7.62mm round delivers something like 3.5kJ. Assume it hits you with 700m/s and that you're 50cm thick, the bullet will have travelled inside you for about 0.001s. Assume, for simplicity that it leaves a quarter of its energy in you and continues on merrily. Then you have power P = A/t = (3.5/4)/0.001 = 0.875MW, a tad more than 40W.
Alternatively, you can do the reverse calculation - if 875 watts are delivered to you by the bullet, you'll need to shine at someone for 22 seconds to get t
Because clearly... (Score:2)
...the leading technical companies in each of those industries isn't already investing heavily in AI backed by their own expertise and funded with their own money and not federal taxes.
Dumbass puts huge money late into obvious bubble (Score:4, Interesting)
This is going to be such a disastrous investment it's going to make Solyndra look like an insignificant whoopsie in comparison. While Chinese product dumping efforts can be hard to foresee, the obviousness and severity of the AI bubble has been on public display for anyone who cares to look for months now. And there's the potential to sink far more money into it. The winner of the AI race is going to be whoever wastes the least money on this folly, and the US looks set for a massive and easily avoidable loss now.
And let's not forget the end goal of this. If someone were to win this race in the fictional imagined scenario where AI didn't hit the core of Diminishing Returns Planet around ChatGPT 4 and there was some kind of path from LLM tech to AGI, the end result would be a technology that augments/replaces labor (same thing, don't be fooled by your boss) in a world dominated by an economic system where most people are workers who need to be able to find buyers for their labor. What could possibly go wrong with that?
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Bubble does not imply that the asset is somehow value-less or folly.
This may come as a surprise to you, but the world-wide-web still exists.
The bubble popping is not a certainty- eventually real-value can catch up to inflated value. But if it does- AI isn't going away. It's just going to be valued correctly, which is definitely not zero.
Diminishing returns does not mean value does not increase. We have yet to reach "zero returns".
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So in other words, because chewy.com exists today it would've been smart to invest into pets.com at the height of its value?
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Intentional strawman, or did you just have a minor stroke?
I never said anything about wisdom of investment in a bubble.
You implied that something that was a bubbled asset was folly, not investment in it.
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Clearly we're misunderstanding each other. I was saying that investing in the bubbled asset was folly. I think the AI industry will continue to exist after the bubble pops but at a size no larger than the database industry today. So not zero value, but a small fraction of what it is currently.
I do think that the amount of money being invested in AI training for the improvements being produced is an absurd waste. They're spending larger and larger sums of money to produce rapidly vanishing improvements that
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Totally agree. Today's "AI" companies would like their investors to believe there's a path though.
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“The US attempt to create a postsoviet style right wing oligarchic system collapsed because Americans are addicted to scams and turned the U.S. economy into a bubble for chatbots”
Stealing from Star Trek again (Score:2)
First they stole the Space Force logo and now they steal the name of the Genesis Project.
Lying and stealing is so ingrained into their rotten brains they can't even name something without it being a rip-off.
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It's in the old testament, my dude. I'm pretty sure that counts as prior art.
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The real question is whether SEGA or Phil Collins's label will sue first.
Re: Stealing from Star Trek again (Score:2)
GIVE ME GENESIS!!!!
Gets rid of those pesky employees (Score:1)
This sounds like it is striving for a capitalist utopia: All the innovation and production, and none of those pesky workers to pay. Very on-brand for Trump and his buddies.
National "security" requirement (Score:2)
> The order positions AI as both a scientific accelerator and a national security requirement
Deploying troops to democrat cities was also a national security requirement. I'd say robots with weapons will be a key priority.
I fear (Score:2)
our future.
The only thing Trump has launched.. (Score:1)
..is that loaf he's been pressing for the last three days. He has the mind of a three year old. C'mon people.
AI or A1? (Score:2, Funny)
His cabinet doesn't know the difference between artificial intelligence and sauce for overcooked steaks [1]https://www.usatoday.com/story... [usatoday.com]
[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/12/linda-mcmahon-a1-instead-of-ai/83059797007/
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A1, I put this shit on everything, even my laptop.
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Aw, that was just the education secretary. They never know nothin.
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It is a Manhattan Project-level grift scheme, whatever the name.
Now instead of scientists evaluated by their peers working on real problems, however imperfectly, you'll have a setup that is completely without accountability and feedback that you'll pay for, on which a couple of lucky cretins like cuckerberg, thiel and the fat Nazi who have saved enough from the low tax for the super-rich system will play games hoping they can develop a "GAI" that will give them a better scheme to swindle you out of the left