China Plans To Limit How Fast Your Car Accelerates To 62 MPH At Startup (carscoops.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/11/13/175228/china-plans-to-limit-how-fast-your-car-accelerates-to-62-mph-at-startup
- Source link: https://www.carscoops.com/2025/11/china-plans-to-limit-car-acceleration-at-startup/
> Beijing's proposed regulation aims to tame rapid launches by forcing cars to boot up in a restricted performance mode after every ignition.
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> Under a proposed update to the National Standard, every passenger car would need a default mode in which it [2]takes no less than five seconds to reach 100 km/h (62 mph) at startup , unless the driver manually selects a quicker setting.
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> The draft title "Technical Specifications for Power-Driven Vehicles Operating on Roads" appears to be part of a broader safety and road behavior initiative in China. It is intended to replace the current GB 7258-2017 standard that didn't impose such restrictions.
[1] https://slashdot.org/~bobthesungeek76036
[2] https://www.carscoops.com/2025/11/china-plans-to-limit-car-acceleration-at-startup/
What about top speed? (Score:1)
What about top speed limiting?
And speaking of which, what about an emergency stop button? They've had a number of self-driving vehicle runaways which could have been stopped with such a thing.
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All the person in these "runaways" had to do was lift their foot off the accelerator. Or even leave their foot on the accelerator and just press the brakes, as the brakes can overpower the motor (think of how fast you accelerate when you slam on the pedal at highway speeds vs. how fast you slow down when you slam on the brakes).
Regulatory agencies the world over are constantly getting reports of "runaway unintended acceleration". Nearly every time they investigate, the person mixed up the pedal and the br
Re: What about top speed? (Score:2)
And if that doesn't work, ebrake and do some drifting.
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Also, the only realistic way to create a true "unintended acceleration" without pedal misapplication is something getting stuck in the pedal or the pedal getting stuck down, which is not actually a subtle thing (again, these things have happened, but they're dwarfed by how often people hit the wrong pedal). Just sensor readings alone don't cut it. As a general rule, pedals have multiple sensors reading the pedal position (typically 2-3). They have to agree with each other, or the target acceleration is se
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> Also, the only realistic way to create a true "unintended acceleration" without pedal misapplication is something getting stuck in the pedal or the pedal getting stuck down
Depends on the car. Its certainly possible for the throttle to get stuck. That said, I have had unintended acceleration where a floormat caught the pedal. Its not immediately obvious and there is quite naturally a moment of panic. Especially if there is anything in front of you to run into.
Re:What about top speed? (Score:4, Insightful)
Nearly every time they investigate, the person mixed up the pedal and the brake. When the car starts accelerating, in their panic they push said "brake" (actually the pedal) harder, and keep pushing it to the floor trying to stop the car.
Then these people shouldn't be driving. If they are unable to put their foot on the correct pedal, what else aren't they doing?
The demise of the sitck shift rears its head again.
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> Then these people shouldn't be driving. If they are unable to put their foot on the correct pedal, what else aren't they doing.
Yep, we need to put our foot down on this one.
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> In their panic, people almost never reevaluate whether they're actually pushing the right pedal.
Isn't pushing the right pedal the problem in the first place?
Re: What about top speed? (Score:2)
You just use the on screen keyboard to type Ctrl+X, Ctrl+Alt+Scroll Lock. The keyboard is under the accessibility settings submenu.
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> What about top speed limiting?
Have you seen traffic in China? Top speed is very much already limited.
> And speaking of which, what about an emergency stop button? They've had a number of self-driving vehicle runaways
There's a pedal you can step on for that. I assume you mean ADSD vehicle, since there's precisely zero self-driving vehicles available on the market for consumers. There's precisely zero incidents of ADSD overpowering a simple step on the brake pedal. That said I'm sure there's cases of people who are too stupid to both drive and be driven around.
A fake problem? (Score:1)
China's geezer party leaders probably got jealous of all the young whippersnappers having fun, so had to reign it in.
Theory is that's also why the Old Testament was written. "If my wanker no longer works, those wippersnappers are no longer allowed to snap their whips either! Parity of misery, Hallelujah, pass the wine!"
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Do you mean they got tired of young men dying?
Your ID suggests you might be familiar with Nadar's "Unsafe at Any Speed".
We're in a bad place culturally when we treat unnecessary death - which affects other people both in terms of tax dollars per crash and whoever else is involved in the crash - as something which is just a cost of doing business.
Meanwhile in America (Score:1)
The laws of physics prevent many people from driving a vehicle with a sub 5 second 0-60 time. It takes a lot of ponies to get a bro-dozer up to speed that quickly.
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> The laws of physics prevent many people from driving a vehicle with a sub 5 second 0-60 time. It takes a lot of ponies to get a bro-dozer up to speed that quickly.
I think a lot of EVs can do this. My very early Model 3 (not 4WD or Performance model) could do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds for a while (before Tesla nerfed the acceleration).
[1]https://www.zeroto60times.com/... [zeroto60times.com]
[1] https://www.zeroto60times.com/electric-cars-0-60-mph-times/
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> I think a lot of EVs can do this. My very early Model 3 (not 4WD or Performance model) could do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds for a while (before Tesla nerfed the acceleration).
EVs, yes. But I was specifically referring to the sort of ginormous pick-up trucks that are rather popular in America. Most of them have a 0-60 time of eventually .
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> But I was specifically referring to the sort of ginormous pick-up trucks that are rather popular in America. Most of them have a 0-60 time of eventually.
A lot of those ginormous trucks also have 400-500HP and are not as slow as you may think they are.
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> But I was specifically referring to the sort of ginormous pick-up trucks that are rather popular in America. Most of them have a 0-60 time of eventually .
My F150 has a 0-60 of around 5.5 seconds. Big truck or not, its twin-turbo v6 can move it surprisingly quickly. And it is not a high-end performance model like the Raptor, just a plain XL with the 3.5L option.
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> "The laws of physics prevent many people from driving a vehicle with a sub 5 second 0-60 time. It takes a lot of ponies to get a bro-dozer up to speed that quickly."
Ariya E4orce crossover. Certainly not exotic. 0-60 in 4.8 seconds.
And did you forget about motorcycles? A Kawaski Concours sport touring (again, nothing exotic, but flashed), 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. And that isn't even electric.
My car is Japanese (Score:2)
My car is Japanese, I'm skeptical that the Chinese can limit anything on it.
I'm not worried... (Score:3)
My uncle's red Barchetta won't have acceleration limits.
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Too bad Rush didn't know that EVs can out-accelerate any ICE sports car of that era by a huge margin despite weighing 50% more, and even out-accelerate any current ICE vehicle quite handily. Outside of maybe super cars, any sports car of that era would feel pretty anemic to modern drivers. Corvette in 1981 could do 0-60 in 8 seconds and for a time was considered America's fastest car. Today my SUV with a Pentastar can do it in about 7.5. California drivers would think anything under 10 seconds is unsafe
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> My uncle's red Barchetta won't have acceleration limits.
Your uncle's slow arse Barchetta doesn't need acceleration limits. There's very few EVs on the market that are as slow as this. Almost 9 seconds 0-100km/h. That's almost twice as long as the limit being proposed. The new lowest end trim of the 2025 VW ID.3 is as slow as the Barchetta, as is the slowest trim of the Renault 5.
Your uncle's ancient car can join my grandma's mobility scooter on a list of things that won't need a acceleration limits.
Should be unconditional and persistent (Score:1)
Every car should have that restriction hardcoded. Much of our safety on the roads depends on low relative speeds, not the absolute high speeds. Getting to 60mph in under 5 seconds doesn't belong on public roads. You want that kind of driving? Go to a race track instead.
Good Idea (Score:2)
EV's accelerate much faster than most cars did in the past and the clues from engine noise aren't as obvious.
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> Good idea
I don't think so at all. It would be a good idea to have a setting to limit power, AND the ability to choose if you want it to remember it or not. Maybe even a password or something option, if the owner wants to lock the setting. But what I buy is my vehicle, I want control.
> EV's accelerate much faster than most cars did in the past and the clues from engine noise aren't as obvious.
Yes, I know. Those are two of several reasons I bought an EV. Had it been neutered with some nanny-state
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A guy I knew had an early Model S.
When he wanted to impress me with the acceleration he tapped a couple settings on the screen to put it into Ludicrous Mode
This was around 2013 or so.
I'm not seeing how this is a problem.
I have a V6 and a V8 truck and both need a manual low gear selection to take off like a rocket. OK, the V6 not so much but the V8 can spin the rear tires in 2WD mode.
I don't let the average drivers in my life use it.
They would hit a tree if they were given a Tesla that was always in Ludicro
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A marker of a new era: in my day, as kids, we ran around making race car, aircraft, machine gun, and bomb noises. A couple of weeks ago, I saw a boy running across a lawn, making what seemed to be imitations of electric drive noises.
Off-topic comment (Score:2)
One of the affected vehicles is the Tesla Model S Plaid.
Not been a huge fan of Tesla lately, but you have to hand it to them for naming a super fast accelerating car after a Spaceballs reference.
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Cool Story, Bro time:
My domestic partner is very pretty and the dbag who runs the nearest Tesla dealership was trying really, really hard to get with her. He let her borrow his dealership's loaner Model S Plaid for a week as part of his "That Guy" package.
We thought we'd have some fun since it's supposed to be this super cool sports car. It turned out to have a governor on it that limited acceleration and top speed to something any Honda Odyssey owner would find comfortable.
I'm not sure whether it was that
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> Not been a huge fan of Tesla lately, but you have to hand it to them for naming a super fast accelerating car after a Spaceballs reference.
Ever see Ready Player One where the corporate douchebag is making a bunch of nostalgic pop culture references (with one of his employees actually feeding them to him via an earpiece) to Wade, in an attempt to convince him that he's not actually a total corporate douchebag?
Yeah, it's like that.
Re:Off-topic comment (Score:4, Funny)
> One of the affected vehicles is the Tesla Model S Plaid.
In Scotland, it's the Model S Tartan, btw.
(Or it should be anyway. :-) )
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> One of the affected vehicles is the Tesla Model S Plaid.
Dude... one of the affected models is the second cheapest Model 3. Only the cheapest Model 3 RWD has a 0-100 time over 5 seconds. In fact just a quick look at the market I couldn't find a single AWD model EV that is slower than 5seconds to 100km/h. The only other car in Tesla's entire offering is the Model Y Standard that is slow enough for this.
Welcome to the world of EVs, we have a fuckton of acceleration.