Amazon's Deployment of Rivian's Electric Delivery Vans Expand to Canada (cleantechnica.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/11/02/0134230/amazons-deployment-of-rivians-electric-delivery-vans-expand-to-canada
- Source link: https://cleantechnica.com/2025/10/30/rivian-electric-delivery-vans-arrive-in-canada/
Amazon's director of Global Fleet and Products says there's now [2]over 35,000 electric vans deployed globally — and that they've delivered more than 1.5 billion packages.
[3]More from the blog Teslarati :
> In December 2024, the companies announced they had [4]successfully deployed 20,000 EDVs across the U.S . In the first half of this year, 10,000 additional vans were delivered, and Amazon's fleet had grown to 30,000 EDVs by mid-2025. Amazon's fleet of EDVs continues to grow rapidly and has expanded to over 100 cities in the United States... The EDV is a model that is exclusive to Amazon, but Rivian sells the RCV, or Rivian Commercial Van, openly. It detailed some of the pricing and trim options back in January when it confirmed it had secured orders from various companies, including AT&T.
[1] https://cleantechnica.com/2025/10/30/rivian-electric-delivery-vans-arrive-in-canada/
[2] https://stories.rivian.com/amazon-rivian-edv-fleet-canada
[3] https://www.teslarati.com/rivian-amazon-announce-huge-milestone-with-edv/
[4] https://www.teslarati.com/amazon-announces-major-milestone-in-ev-transition-with-rivian/
Makes sense (Score:5, Insightful)
Electric makes sense for a delivery van; short distances with a lot of stop and go; always going back to the depot at night to charge.
Trivial impact (Score:2)
The reality is the packages delivered are often flown most of the way. Or by a diesel semi. The final delivery to someone's door is a trivial part of the emission footprint for delivering a package.
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I think he's implying most goods originate overseas. I don't think that's actually true in the US, and it also ignores that overseas packages are typically delivered by ship, not plane.
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Yes and no. Those diesel semi's for example, can carry tens of tons of packages, whereas the vans are delivering them are probably going to be carrying maybe 100 kilos. Consider that a diesel semi may over 2000 km say 50X the mass in packages that one delivery van will carry on its day long route. If each of those delivery vans drives an average of other 40 km on its route, that's more distance than the semi drove. The delivery trucks may do even more driving than that. Now, they are smaller vehicles, but t
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You are right of course that semi's are more efficient. Planes probably not. But when you consider how far the package has to travel from china/vietnam/indonesia ... to get to the door, the length of that last trip to the door is pretty trivial. No matter how large the difference between ICE and EV emissions, it is going to be a trivial part of the totl emissions created.
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Let's not ignore trains either - they move 2/3 as much freight as trucks do within the US.
Air, very little.
These numbers are within the US, not counting import to the US:
[1]https://www.bts.gov/content/us... [bts.gov]
[1] https://www.bts.gov/content/us-ton-miles-freight
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> The reality is the packages delivered are often flown most of the way. Or by a diesel semi. The final delivery to someone's door is a trivial part of the emission footprint for delivering a package.
Err no, the final delivery is a critical part of emissions. I can't smell an international freighter, I can't hear it, it's not idling in my street, it's not producing NOx emissions or particulates known to cause cancer in front of my house.
Not everything is about climate change. Even if climate change is a complete hoax there's frigging HUGE reasons to switch away from burning gasoline and diesel in population centres. The impact directly on my life of delivery companies having switched away from smelly di
Winter (Score:2)
I wonder how they'll do in the winter. I have a Rav4 plug in hybrid. In the winter I get about 1/3 less range and on really cold days ( -18C/0F ) I have to run the engine in order to get enough heat to keep the windshield defrosted. I imagine that in a delivery van, without the cabin insulation and with the doors frequently open that the heating problem will be much worse. OTOH in the summer and for short trips, I hardly ever use the gas engine.
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> In the winter I get about 1/3 less range and on really cold days ( -18C/0F )
At 0F a typical normal Rivian gets about 20% range reduction. Much of that comes from initial battery conditioning on a trip, something that delivery truck EVs don't actually worry much about since they are driven constantly. Incidentally this is why some companies suggest you pre-warm the cabin before going somewhere - it often also warms the battery pack so you don't suffer range loss in the initial part of your trip.
> I have to run the engine in order to get enough heat to keep the windshield defrosted.
Different car designs require different tech. Rav4s have an engine to backup their heatpu
hello from Europe (Score:3)
There are a lot of EV vans here. Businesses adopted them quickly due to the obvious benefits - lower running costs, less maintenance, competitive edge from lower emissions.
It looks like North America is some years behind, but moving along the same path.
Re: hello from Europe (Score:2)
Funny, I live in the country that is the largest manufacturer of cars in Europe (No, it is not Germany, guess again!). There are very few electric cars on the roads here. I can go days, without seeing a single one.
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Don’t tell us or anything.
Not Germany? (Score:3)
You would have thought that the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association [1]would have known what they're talking about [acea.auto].
[1] https://www.acea.auto/figure/motor-vehicle-production-in-eu-by-country/
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> Funny, I live in the country that is the largest manufacturer of cars in Europe (No, it is not Germany, guess again!).
Germany - 4.3 million
Spain - 2.5 million
France - 1.6 million
(Russia) - 1.7 million
(Turkey) - 1.5 million
UK - 800k.
Sorry, don't believe you.
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Russia. Yeah, those T-72s are pretty large.
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You live somewhere in Eastern Europe (fine), think you build the most cars (you don't), make sweeping statements based on personal observation (not smart) and think EV vans are a niche thing in 2025 (your country is behind the curve).
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> No, it is not Germany, guess again!
It is Germany. By a factor for more than double they not only produce the most cars in their factory, but they also produce the most cars per capita in their factories, and are home to the two largest car producing brands as well.
The problem with writing like an arse with unverifiable claims is that the one thing you said which we can verify just turned out to be complete rubbish. So ... I'm guessing your entire post is complete rubbish.
Sorry if you were being sincere, we have nothing else to go on other th
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NYC: 8.5M
LA: 3.9M
Chicago: 2.7M
Total: 15.1M
Population USA: 342M
1 in 22.6 people live in those 3 cities.
On the other hand, if we include the "metro area" and not just city proper:
NYC Metro: 19.9M
LA Metro: 12.8M
Chicago Metro: 10.1M
Total: 42.8M, 1 in 8 people.
The math checks out if one uses metro instead of actual city. Basically, "metro" areas include the suburbs where many would commute into the city to work.
On the topic of electric vans, they would still totally work for deliveries through the metro area, n
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Range isn't too bad. I saw a Rivian (Rivivan?) out on Highway 9 between Van Zandt and Deming Washington the other day.
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Deliveries where I am are made with a crappy minivan.
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The big delivery outfits here all have vans. The bigger supermarkets have their own, there is Royal Mail, Evri, and a few other delivery services. Then you have some independent contractors who use ordinary cars. Many of the taxis are hybrids of EVs now, due to the mileage and fuel costs, but I haven't really looked at the independent delivery people.
At the very bottom of the chain you have guys on electric bikes.
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Not just the bottom of the chain.
Quite a few of the big boys can be seen delivering around London in cargo bikes and pedivans of various sorts.
There are also drop sided vans which are basically small lorries I've seen used by more commercial construction type companies delivering hired small plant as well. Can't remember the company.
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E bikes, including e cargo bikes, are rapidly growing in number as well. Further down you describe these as the bottom of the chain in the UK, but I think that perception is shifting quite rapidly to be more like the Netherlands, at least in London, because cargo bikes have such significant advantages over large vehicles. It's all good, though. I always get a small bit of pleasure when the DPD and UPS guys deliver to me, because their vans are electric. DPD van is a mid-size thing, but the UPS van is an abs
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The main problem with ebikes is that there are so many that exceed legal power limits, or have more than just pedal assistance. It's bad enough that there are so many dangerous cyclists around, and kids on electric scooters.