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US Needs 'Finesse' to Stay Ahead of China, Nvidia Boss Says (bloomberg.com)

(Wednesday October 29, 2025 @06:40PM (msmash) from the how-about-that dept.)


Nvidia chief executive Jensen Huang said that maintaining the US edge in AI will require a steady approach that ensures China [1]remains hooked on American technology . From a report:

> The chipmaker is in an "awkward place" as President Donald Trump prepares to meet with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping later this week, Huang told reporters Tuesday at a company conference in Washington. The Nvidia chief praised Trump's commitment to winning but urged careful engagement with China because of the country's massive software developer base and its growing technology capabilities.

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> During the meeting, Trump and Xi are expected to finalize an agreement to ease trade tensions between the world's two largest economies. When it comes to those negotiations, Huang said he has "no idea" if GPUs -- the chips central to artificial intelligence capabilities -- will be a topic between Trump and Xi.

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> Huang was careful to leave the negotiating to Trump but encouraged US leadership to think longer term on its overall AI strategy. "A policy that causes America to lose half of the world's developers is not beneficial long-term," Huang said, warning that it was still possible for the US to cede the AI race to China. Keeping US technology in front requires finesse," he said. "It requires balance. It requires long-term thinking."



[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-28/us-needs-finesse-to-stay-ahead-of-china-in-ai-nvidia-ceo-says



None of these people care about the United States (Score:3)

by rsilvergun ( 571051 )

People at this guy's level are global they are not national anymore. They do not think or act as members of a nation-state. They are above all that.

But they would very much like you to continue to struggle to compete because they can continue to make great margins off of the long work days and increasingly lower pay, benefits and quality of life.

If you haven't already figured this out you are a sucker and now it's a good time to figure out that you're a sucker

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by AleRunner ( 4556245 )

> People at this guy's level are global they are not national anymore. They do not think or act as members of a nation-state. They are above all that.

For the most part you have a point. They get selected as heads of massive multinationals because they are able to work in an international situation. They get huge benefits by playing off one country against the other.

However, the situation of the Russian Oligarchs, who allowed Putin to take control of their nation and are now losing all of their wealth in his bonfire of the Russian nation reminds us that all these people are still humans and all these companies are still grounded in some nation. Many, even

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by cusco ( 717999 )

> China is very explicitly setting out to replace all of the US tech giants with Chinese equivalents.

Duh. What did these morons expect when they prohibited China from buying advanced chips and then from buying lithography systems? That they'd roll over and say, "OK, fuck me as hard as you want, I'm your slave!"?? They're around 1/4 of the world's population, there are a lot of smart people there, and their education system is outshining our own now. The newest chips in Huwai phones seem to be approximately equal to the top of the line chips in Apple iToys just a few years ago already, and while their l

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by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

Huang built the company from ground up. He cleaned toilets during his student years.

He knows far more about poverty that champagne socialists who spew this nonsense do.

Re: None of these people care about the United Sta (Score:2)

by drinkypoo ( 153816 )

He knows, but he doesn't care.

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by snowshovelboy ( 242280 )

all the best commenters are in this thread

Finesse ? (Score:5, Insightful)

by Voice of satan ( 1553177 )

We have a government which makes a point of displaying absolutely zero finesse as it is perceived as elitist. They gloat about their unsophistication and the plain folks of the land cheer them for that.

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by znrt ( 2424692 )

which is true for both the shadow and the official government. and yes, this guy's talk is delusional but he probably isn't, he just says whatever he thinks will keep the money flowing for at long as possible.

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by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 )

> We have a government which makes a point of displaying absolutely zero finesse as it is perceived as elitist. They gloat about their unsophistication and the plain folks of the land cheer them for that.

Well, thank goodness they have the "steady approach" part down at least!

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by cusco ( 717999 )

> "It requires balance. It requires long-term thinking."

Two things which are anathema in Brainwashington, and have been for over a quarter of a century.

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by gweihir ( 88907 )

Well, I think they cannot finesse because they are too dumb. So they declare "incompetent" the new standard.

Actual educated tech people doing actual tech. (Score:4, Insightful)

by AleRunner ( 4556245 )

The US got where it is today by being the best place to do science, which meant that the tech people could feed off that science. If scientists are constantly being dumped on as "experts" that are hated, then that's going to be difficult to sustain. There's nobody in China denying climate science. There's nobody cancelling particle accelerators and new space telescopes. Of course, there still aren't any Chinese space telescopes to compare with James Webb and there aren't satellites that compare with NASAs but soon there may well be.

Finesse and long term thinking require making sure scientists feel wanted.

Re:Actual educated tech people doing actual tech. (Score:4, Interesting)

by smooth wombat ( 796938 )

China offered a U.S. Nobel Prize winner [1]whatever he wanted [latintimes.com] after the U.S. froze grant money for research. He declined to take up the offer, but it is guaranteed others will and have done so, whether to China or somewhere in Europe.

Guess what happens to a country where people like this are no longer around.

[1] https://www.latintimes.com/trump-froze-nobel-prize-winning-lebanese-american-scientists-grant-then-china-offered-him-funding-584302

Finesse? Or leadership? (Score:2)

by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 )

> US Needs 'Finesse' to Stay Ahead of China

Yes, I'll readily admit that the current administration doesn't even know what finesse is, much less have any. But I think leadership would be more important when it comes to "staying ahead of China". Sadly, leadership also is lacking in the current administration.

> "A policy that causes America to lose half of the world's developers is not beneficial long-term," Huang said

That's pretty much equivalent to saying "A policy that supports unrestricted deployment of AI is not beneficial long-term", because LLMs are already displacing developers. So which of your contradictory sentiments would you like us to believe?

Pers

The USA_Empire is circling the drain (Score:2)

by FudRucker ( 866063 )

And the Globalists are moving to China and are going push the lever on the toilet sending the USA_empire down,

Yeah of course, 'finnese' as in shovling cash (Score:2)

by wakeboarder ( 2695839 )

and tax breaks to Nvidia.

Unfortunately... (Score:2)

by nospam007 ( 722110 ) *

..heavy-handed is the modus operandi nowadays.

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by ISoldat53 ( 977164 )

Heavy handed as in starting a war with China.

"Had he and I but met
By some old ancient inn, But ranged as infantry,
We should have sat us down to wet And staring face to face,
Right many a nipperkin! I shot at him as he at me,
And killed him in his place.
I shot him dead because --
Because he was my foe, He thought he'd 'list, perhaps,
Just so: my foe of course he was; Off-hand-like -- just as I --
That's clear enough; although Was out of work -- had sold his traps
No other reason why.
Yes; quaint and curious war is!
You shoot a fellow down
You'd treat, if met where any bar is
Or help to half-a-crown."
-- Thomas Hardy