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Are We Living in a Golden Age of Stupidity? (theguardian.com)

(Monday October 20, 2025 @11:22AM (msmash) from the closer-look dept.)


Test scores across OECD countries peaked around 2012 and have declined since. IQ scores in many developed countries appear to be falling after rising throughout the twentieth century. Nataliya Kosmyna at MIT's Media Lab began noticing changes around two years ago when strangers started emailing her to ask if using ChatGPT [1]could alter their brains . She posted a study in June tracking brain activity in 54 students writing essays. Those using ChatGPT showed significantly less activity in networks tied to cognitive processing and attention compared to students who wrote without digital help or used only internet search engines. Almost none could recall what they had written immediately after submitting their work.

She received more than 4,000 emails afterward. Many came from teachers who reported students producing passable assignments without understanding the material. A British survey found that 92% of university students now use AI and roughly 20% have used it to write all or part of an assignment. Independent research has found that more screen time in schools correlates with worse results. Technology companies have designed products to be frictionless, removing the cognitive challenges brains need to learn. AI now allows users to outsource thinking itself.



[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/oct/18/are-we-living-in-a-golden-age-of-stupidity-technology



Simple answer (Score:4, Informative)

by burtosis ( 1124179 )

ChatGPT and Grok both said I’m not so it must be true.

We're Closing the Search Engine Loophole (Score:2)

by crunchy_one ( 1047426 )

> Those using ChatGPT showed significantly less activity in networks tied to cognitive processing and attention compared to students who wrote without digital help or used only internet search engines.

Luckily Google and other search engines are closing part of the cognitive loophole by putting an AI summary at the top of all results.

Re: We're Closing the Search Engine Loophole (Score:4, Funny)

by LindleyF ( 9395567 )

We cannot allow a search engine gap!

Not Golden Age (Score:1)

by firecode ( 119868 )

In the age of misery of Stupidity (yes I use double of, bad grammar).

Testing strategy (Score:3)

by bugs2squash ( 1132591 )

I'm convinced my high school French language classes were skewed away from learning useful skills and biased in favor of writing skills because it made it easier to test. The tests are running the show to the detriment of learning.

Educators need to push past outdated written tests and find new ways to assess skills. I suspect that AI could play a role for good in that.

Re: (Score:3)

by JBMcB ( 73720 )

> I'm convinced my high school French language classes were skewed away from learning useful skills and biased in favor of writing skills because it made it easier to test.

Aren't writing skills useful? In my experience, writing, reading and speaking ability are usually tied together.

Re: (Score:3)

by PDXNerd ( 654900 )

All three are separate even with the same base language. I can understand a great deal of a language due to having lived in this foreign country with fluent children for a long time, and can read the language very well, but can barely speak it because speaking is a different part of the brain than understanding, and I work in english all day....And writing? My spelling is atrocious and I hear words I think is a single word but its really 3 words said quickly together so when I write said words as a single w

Re: (Score:2)

by bugs2squash ( 1132591 )

It turns out that, in French, many of the verb conjugations sound the same even if they are spelled differently, I feel that my speaking and listening skills could have progressed farther without a hyper focus on that baggage.

I personally find reading much easier that writing (I suspect many people do) and the reading seems to me to be the key to accelerating vocabulary learning, being able to regurgitate the verb endings could have come later IMO, behind learning to recognize the tense being used and the p

Watch the documentary 'Idiocracy' (Score:4, Funny)

by Vegan Cyclist ( 1650427 )

This documentary from a few decades ago sorta covers what we can expect.

Re: (Score:2)

by jacks smirking reven ( 909048 )

I was also thinking of the Futurama episode "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid"

Fry: What are we going to do?

Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Duh, I know, let's play the lottery.

Amy Wong: No, let's buy internet stock.

Dr. Zoidberg: On margin. Zoidbee wants to buy on margin.

Hermes Conrad: [holding a board in front of his face] Look at me. I'm invisible.

Fry: Wait a minute, I know what's going on here. You've all become idiots.

Bender: Hey, let's all join the Reform party.

Everyone: Yeah!

You cannot convince a stupid person that they are (Score:3)

by Quakeulf ( 2650167 )

In my job I spend a lot of time convincing companies that they can save a lot of money on improving software performance. However, they all seem very reluctant to even go there. It is really weird because it has all the upsides and none of the downsides, and it doesn't take that much of an effort either based on the prior work I have done and the systems they show me that are in need of improvements. Recently one of them posted major losses because of a "mismatch" between customer needs and runrate or something, but I know that they are paying >$10K monthly for bloatware and "LLMs" that cannot scale. I wish I could convince them otherwise, but since they are stupid it's a waste of my time.

No (Score:4, Interesting)

by gweihir ( 88907 )

Most people are deeply stupid and that has always been the case. Education does nothing. The difference is that today, the stupid people are much more visible and louder. That does not mean there are more.

Re:No (Score:4, Interesting)

by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

Reality TV and social media made the idiots louder, but worse than that it make them easier to manipulate. We saw interference via social media during recent elections and referendums, and traditional media like Fox News and GB News have taken lying to their audiences to another level.

It's basically a fight between billionaires and foreign powers to see how can screw things up the most in their own favour now, and useful idiots are the tools.

Re: (Score:1)

by CubicleZombie ( 2590497 )

They're all lying. People just choose to believe the lies they agree with.

Re: (Score:2)

by Tony Isaac ( 1301187 )

I don't know if stupid people are actually more visible and louder than before. In the past, they were kings and queens and magistrates. Their activities were always an soap opera.

Recall (Score:5, Insightful)

by Some Guy ( 21271 )

> Almost none could recall what they had written immediately after submitting their work.

Ummm... that's because they didn't write it. (And it's also not "their work".)

Re: (Score:2)

by TwistedGreen ( 80055 )

Yes I think we need to make this distinction very clear. Copy-pasting something from a generative program is not writing. This is just the modern version of twisting the nerdy kid's arm until he does your homework for you. Even if you re-copy it into your own handwriting, everybody knows you didn't "write" it.

Think of it as evolution in action (Score:2)

by rbrander ( 73222 )

Drugs challenged society with addiction. Those who could avoid, or fight off, addiction continued, many were lost. Societal rules changed, as societies, not just species, evolve to resist challenge and continue to succeed.

Those who do NOT use AI heavily and keep up their own ability to solve problems will succeed over those who do not, in the long run. Parents will learn to restrict AI they way they fight "screen time" now, as they've always had to teach kids not to be lazy - a very default human choic

Shift to in school work (Score:4, Interesting)

by skam240 ( 789197 )

The problem is schools aren't adjusting correctly to new realities. What we need is a shift to in class work making up the bulk of grades so kids can't use AI and have to use their brains instead. Sending kids home with homework nowadays is more or less pointless if AI is just going to do it for them.

Shocked, I tell you (Score:3)

by roc97007 ( 608802 )

Seriously, it's hardly a surprise. Doing research and putting words together takes cogitation which stimulates the brain. A stimulated brain is a sharp brain. We've known this for decades, perhaps centuries.

The people in my workgroup lean heavily on ChatGPT and Copilot and the like because it's faster and easier, but I wonder if it's more effective. Is it faster only initially? After we've used these tools for a while, and our brains have atrophied, maybe we slow to the point where the time saved is a wash.

Where does this lead? Are we condemned to become Eloi?

Great for dictators... (Score:2)

by Lavandera ( 7308312 )

AI and social media like tiktok is a fantastic thing for autocrats and dictators.

They allow to tell their subjects what to think and what to do.

Everyone thought the time of autocrats and dictators is done and tech companies made everyone wrong giving second life to food old feudalism...

Re: (Score:2)

by wyHunter ( 4241347 )

I hate to tell you this, but this has been said since television was invented - and it's true for both of them.

Yes and the GAS generation ... (Score:2)

by MxMatrix ( 1303567 )

... is blowing smoke up their own asses.

In the USA, yes (Score:4, Insightful)

by Going_Digital ( 1485615 )

In the USA, there has been under investment in education and things that benefit society as a whole. Meanwhile China has invested heavily in education, sending their brightest students to the best universities all around the world.

One of these nations is growing and gaining influence globally, the other elected an orange clown as it’s president and is the butt of jokes the world over.

Re: (Score:2)

by Alypius ( 3606369 )

It would probably help if the money that we invest in education actually went to students and didn't serve to enrich administrators, union hacks, and education "consultants" as well as function as a money-laundering operation for Democrat fund-raising. It would also help if we weren't completely retarded and decide that [1]math is racist [hoover.org] and [2]gut AP/honors classes. [seattletimes.com]

[1] https://www.hoover.org/research/seattle-schools-propose-teach-math-education-racist-will-california-be-far-behindseattle

[2] https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/editorials/dont-squash-advanced-learning-in-seattle-public-schools-fix-it/

Stupid (Score:2)

by RobinH ( 124750 )

Speaking of stupid, if IQ peaked around 2012, then it wasn't LLMs that caused it, because they weren't around back then. However, 2012 coincides with the beginning widespread smartphone usage, particularly among high schoolers.

Re: Stupid (Score:2)

by ThurstonMoore ( 605470 )

+6 insightful

The US has become an Idiocracy (Score:2)

by mspohr ( 589790 )

I don't know too much about the rest of the world but I can observe the US decline into an Idiocracy run by clowns and thugs with a compliant population which seems to only pay attention to "entertainment".

have always been entitled and stupid - parent time (Score:3)

by FeelGood314 ( 2516288 )

In the past the stupidity and entitlement didn't hurt us as much. Now with longer retirement, the entitlements have become a crushing burden on the young, particularly young parents. I'm not so sure it is screen time as much as lack of parent time. I would also argue it isn't women's education that causes falling birth rates, that's just a correlation. Longer life expectancy and fewer options for young men (fathers and husbands) causes women not to find suitable mates. Birth rates for men who have good careers and housing haven't changed.

Short lived premise of idiocracy? (Score:2)

by nealric ( 3647765 )

This is just a theory, but I wonder if the basic premise of Idiocracy will burn itself out within the next generation. That basic premise was that more intelligent people tended to have fewer/no children while less intelligent people have many children. I think that has run its course and started to reverse.

There was probably some truth to this over the last 75 years or so. As safe and effective birth control first became available, it was the upper and then middle classes who got access first. Their family

Is this a question? (Score:2, Flamebait)

by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 )

Have you seen who's in the White House? Remember: he was voted in. Twice. That only happens in a nation with a widespread case of mental retardation.

Re: (Score:2)

by RitchCraft ( 6454710 )

This kind of thing happens when only given two choices ... Tweedledee or Tweedledum.

Re: (Score:2)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

And then there's his cabinet choices.

Re: (Score:2)

by wyHunter ( 4241347 )

Um, neither party is a paragon of intellectual achievement. Though I'm sure Joe and Kamala were just fantastic to the true believers, much like DJT is to his admirers.

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