> Try Pop OS, its nice.

In the process of switching to using other system full-time that's running Mint... So far, have just been lazy. All my systems are (technically) too old to run Windows 11, but all run Linux (or BSD) just fine. Thank you MS for forcing me to switch!

I'd contribute to a mass Linux ad campaign to agitate the hell out of Microsoft.

> Try Pop OS, its nice.

Seconding Pop OS. It just works. Even the touchscreen just works. Which I didn't even know I had.

Not until they fix SecureBoot support.

And there it is. Nobody who doesn't have me to set it up (or similar) wants to run Linux.

If I set up a desktop for someone, I can configure it for them. Most Windows users can even run pacman.

And that's why the Year of The Linux Desktop never seems to happen.

> It's not even a BDSM beating

Blue Death Screen Malfunction?

There are those that think we're masochists for running Linux. I disagree with them of course. But whatever.

Reminds me of canings/paddlings they used to (some US states stll do) give out in school for malfeasance.

Microsoft has been publicly and loudly called-out and shamed for creating an ocean of needless e-waste, and forcing people to buy new PCs that they would not otherwise need (and in many cases cannot afford) or to continue using out-of-support software (with resulting risks of malware or lack of support from other software vendors).

Microsoft's response has been to laugh all the way to the bank, hand-in-hand with their hardware partner vendors.

I understand why technicians would think that people are "retarded" for choosing Windows (I run Linux and Apple myself), but the greater retardation is the continuing and widespread belief that we can modify the behavior of wealthy industry moguls by trying to make them feel guilt.

They are incapable of feeling guilt. They aren't normal people; they just pretend to be. Normal people with normal moral compasses don't ever attain positions of such wealth and power, as they are at far too much of a competitive disadvantage against these "natural leaders."

If we want to change their behavior, words will not work. We must apply force (in the form of legislation and/or boycott). These are not easily done, but they are the only things that will work.

That's only if you run Microsoft's slop. Free your mind as Kuato would say.

With TPM 2.0, your computer isn’t fully yours anymore. It gives companies the power to block certain software, prevent you from installing different operating systems, and limit what you can change. It’s slowly turning personal computers into closed devices that only run what they approve.

They call it protection, but it’s really control. TPM 2.0 isn’t a safety measure, it’s a soft reboot of Palladium. Microsoft wanted that control decades ago, when they tried to make every

Ah, yes. The SecureBoot off crowd. There will always be some amount of you fucking morons.

"Their discards will be a feast far larger than the potential Linux user market (burp!) as always."

For a while, until more and more websites start enforcing passkeys which require tpm2.0. Also some authoritarian governments may not even allow isp's to permit pc's to connect to the Internet unless they do a TPM signed certificate exchange identifying the user.

Yeah, basically every PC and laptop made in the last 5 years can be upgraded to Windows 11. Many of the older ones still have spinning rust hard drives that are due to fail soon, so those end users are probably better off upgrading their systems anyway.

Sure, they could just replace that failing slow hard drive with an SSD and just switch to Linux instead... but if they were willing or able to actually do that, they've probably already done it.

> W10 VMs run fine on Linux hosts.

Win 10 also runs just fine on older hardware - exactly what problem does running Win 10 in a VM solve?

It still needs a license/COA.

It still won't get security updates.

And running Win 10 in a VM on a Linux box requires a level of sophistication and motivation many/most casual Windows 10 users don't have.

It's a shame Microsoft only gave users, what, 4 or 5 years notice before dropping support for Win 10...

In other news, every Intel-based Mac except a few very particular models, are no longer supported by the

> In my 90s head, PC will forever mean a desktop to me, and laptops will subsequently never mean a PC, despite being the same class of devices.

> Just a weird brain. Some signals must have got mixed up in my childhood.

I had the opposite experience. To me, a workstation was a linux/unix machine. When I finally got a laptop (big and slow Toshiba), it was a Windows machine. Of course, starting about 20 years ago, the workstations went away. I had servers and workstations in the lab, and those all ran linux, but the office desktop went away and was replaced by a Windows laptop with a docking station and a monitor.

You can buy a refurb workstation off eBay with [1]an old i5 [cpubenchmark.net] for the same and get better performance and higher-quality components.

[1] https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/6304vs3231/Intel-N150-vs-Intel-i5-8500T

It wouldn't surprise me one damn bit if Microsoft is secretly funneling money to companies to ensure their perfectly good "old" PCs never make it to the used market but instead get shredded. Nadella is an asshole.