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National Security Threatened By Climate Crisis, UK Intelligence Chiefs Due To Warn (theguardian.com)

(Wednesday October 08, 2025 @05:20PM (msmash) from the grave-concerns dept.)


The UK's national security is [1]under severe threat from the climate crisis and the looming collapse of vital natural ecosystems, with food shortages and economic disaster potentially just years away, a powerful report by the UK's intelligence chiefs is due to warn. The Guardian:

> However, the report, which was supposed to launch on Thursday at a landmark event in London, has been delayed, and concerns have been expressed to the Guardian that it may have been blocked by number 10. The destabilising impact of the climate and nature crises on national security is one of the biggest risks facing Britain, the joint intelligence committee report is understood to say.

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> Already, food import supply chains are coming under pressure, with the price of some commodities increasing. This could be exacerbated in the near future, the defence experts have warned, with the UK over-dependent on imports. Other industries will also be affected by ecosystem collapse in places such as the Amazon and by the worsening impacts of extreme weather around the world. These impacts will not be encountered far off in the future as some had complacently assumed, ministers have been told, but are already being felt and will grow in significance as temperatures rise beyond 1.5C above preindustrial levels.

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> The hard-hitting report was to be published on Thursday at a landmark event in London. But the Guardian understands that the report, prepared by experts over many months, has been halted.



[1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/08/national-security-threatened-climate-crisis-uk-defence-chiefs-warn



Re: (Score:3)

by VaccinesCauseAdults ( 7114361 )

You will happy to learn that the new Labour government is finally doing something sensible to reduce immigration and illegal immigration. After the previous 14 years of Conservatives it was out of control.

CONgrats! (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

> Your London mayor is a Muslim.

Con grats for exposing yourself as the fucking xenophobe you are.

Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

by Anonymous Coward

All the boats last year were equal to 0.05% of the UK population. It's going to take a lot longer than 10 more years.

Re: (Score:2)

by hey! ( 33014 )

But you are leaving out the difference in fertility. The fertility rate of the UK, which as you noted is a population dominated by native britons who trace their ancestry on the island back a millennium or more, is 1.4 live births per woman. The replacement rate is 2.1. In a hundred years the UK will have a smaller population than Haiti.

Re: (Score:2, Troll)

by VaccinesCauseAdults ( 7114361 )

Sir, this is a Wendy’s. We don’t serve gammon.

Real issues for fake (Score:2)

by shanen ( 462549 )

Sounds like you're feeding a troll, but I don't even know what kind of food "gammon" is. But does it come in kosher and halal versions?

Re: (Score:2, Informative)

by VaccinesCauseAdults ( 7114361 )

Gammon is the collective noun for Farage or BNP supporters. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] You’re welcome.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)

Re: (Score:1)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

Surely you jest. I was told brexit would solve all immigration issues. Do you mean to tell me that was an outright lie?

Re: (Score:2)

by VaccinesCauseAdults ( 7114361 )

The London mayor was a Christian and a complete bell-end. Your point being? The bell-end also became PM during the 14-year Conservative reign when the immigration you mentioned soared.

Re: (Score:2)

by VaccinesCauseAdults ( 7114361 )

* Our previous London mayor was

Climate change is real, stop misdirection (Score:1)

by pereric ( 528017 )

Sorry, but what kind of far-right misdirection do you spread? The mayor of London may be a favorite object of hate from far right groups for being both of the wrong faith, and because he is implementing progressive policy on for example local air quality, climate and slightly better social equality. And leads a city where people of many ethnicities and religions mostly get around together rather OK. Which is a powerful counter-example to xenophobic rants. (The support for LGBTQ+, women's rights, factual sci

Translation: (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

> UK, your most pressing issue to your own sovereigngty and security isn't "climate change" but Unchecked Immigration

> Your London mayor is a Muslim.

Translation: " whaaaa! Mommy I'm scared!!!! "

Someone call the fucking whambulance.

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by hotte ( 206225 )

> UK, your most pressing issue to your own sovereigngty and security isn't "climate change" but Unchecked Immigration

Maybe we could just try to stay on-topic, for once.

Re: (Score:2)

by hey! ( 33014 )

Because under a true system of sovereignty, people wouldn't be allowed to vote for a Muslim mayor.

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by VaccinesCauseAdults ( 7114361 )

Fun fact: there are only two countries in the world with unelected members of the clergy in the legislature. Iran and UK. The gammon OP wants a theocracy like the countries many of the immigrants come from.

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by jacks smirking reven ( 909048 )

Also while not in the legislature the Russian Orthodox Church is effectively a tool of the state as well, something I am sure that group looks upon fondly as many here in the US do as well; [1]Patriarch Kirill of Moscow [wikipedia.org]

On 9 March 2022, after the liturgy, he declared that Russia has the right to use force against Ukraine to ensure Russia's security, that Ukrainians and Russians are one people, that Russia and Ukraine are one country, that the West incites Ukrainians to kill Russians to sow discord between Russ

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch_Kirill_of_Moscow

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by VaccinesCauseAdults ( 7114361 )

True. The Russian Orthodox also have some of the best fancy dress costumes out of any religion. They genuinely look like something out of an old Star Trek episode where they visit a planet and find the rulers are completely mad.

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by serviscope_minor ( 664417 )

Your London mayor is a Muslim.

So? I'm a Jew. Also not a racist piece of shit, so I don't mind having someone who's brown and from a different religious background. He's been doing a pretty decent job, good enough that he'd get my vote again.

You are being invaded by the boatload, your own people are starting to rebel against you, and yet you push harder -- arrest anyone who dares voice a differing opinion

Ah yes, alternative facts land. Right wing domestic abusing racists attack the police: 25 arrests. Granni

If you BELIEVE it... (Score:2)

by guygo ( 894298 )

it's not a lie. - G. Costanza

More government using the Costanza maxim to guide their policy.

Good that UK is building more nuclear power plants (Score:1)

by MacMann ( 7518492 )

From a few weeks ago:

[1]https://www.bbc.com/news/artic... [bbc.com]

Of course mention of nuclear power bring out the usual suspects to scare monger.

> But Greenpeace questioned the UK's focus on nuclear power.

> "If these proposals for new reactors scattered around Britain really materialise, the net effect will be higher bills from nuclear's relentlessly spiralling costs, and more CO2 as we wait for the builders to overcome their inevitable construction delays," said Dr Douglas Parr, chief scientist for Greenpeace UK.

But if the UK never gets experience on building nuclear power plants then they costs will not come down. Once the costs come down from experience then what is your complaint.?

> Centrica's chief executive Chris O'Shea told the BBC's Today programme that increased costs and delays "can happen in all large projects".

> But he said: "What you need to do is you need to do more than just one every 20 years in order to get better. So, the more you practice, the better you get which is why small and advanced modular reactors are particularly interesting because they'll be repetitive so you'll produce the same thing over and over again.

> "That should bring improvements both in terms of cost and schedule and reliability and cost as well."

> Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has previously said he wants the UK to return to being "one of the world leaders on nuclear".

If the argument against nuclear power was that it hasn't been done before were to hold then we'd never have deployed solar PV because there was a time that solar PV wasn't tried before. This is a bulls

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgzevzwxwro

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