Nope. Cope harder reality denier. You're just as bad as the idiots in TFS. "Oh darn that NYT and their attempt to tell our future victi^^^^ coders , that those with lots of money have declared them redundant."

But do try to make this about the others as much as possible, I'm sure all of the big wigs at the top are just waiting to trickle down on you for your efforts at getting everyone to "learn to plumb". /s

Being set in your ways isn't a virtue.

WTF? Nice pivot to politics where non existed.

Bill Gates specifically, along with Meta and Google, have poured billions of dollars into US Education (and other countries too), giving the 'next generation of CS majors' a head start. I always thought this was to increase competition and thus reduce wages. Coal miners and oil field workers tend to have other skills that can make them a bit of money.

The CEOs of the companies funding this are all Trump bootlickers, so I'm not sure how that's a 'l

Being Leftist just comes with knowing about the world.

How horrible, wanting people to live and experience the world rather than die of black lung in their early 30s.

How are you so good at predicting the future?

> Unless you're S -Tier, you're not breaking six figures without putting in years of work with the same org. Gone are the days of a $10k pay bump for a lateral move to a different organization.

> The fact is that these days if you're not a talented developer that knows how to leverage LLMs, you're eventually going to be out of work. This is happening right now.

> Five years at most is all the professional life LLM haters have left.

> Oh, and good luck fighting for WFH in this ecosystem.

There's *plenty* of remote work out there. It might just not be with Meta, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon or Alphabet. Which are the ones paying newbies six figures+.

There are plenty of places (outside California / NYC / Boston / Seattle, even) where the floor for junior devs is around $90k. Not hard at all to crack six figures with just yearly cost-of-living raises.

I am a professional coder who works with LLM tools every day. I can say that the tools are very helpful, but they have plateaued asymptotically in the past six months. We are getting about all the juice we're going to squeeze out of random token guessing machines. Coders need to learn to use the tools but aren't being replaced by them.

New hires in the field are coming in at a premium here in the Midwest. Manufacturing is roaring back and a lot of companies are making capital expenditures to modernize, or are buying up little mom-and-pop manufacturers in the 2nd or 3rd tier and modernizing them. All these companies need coders and can't find them. They're advertising to grads in major cities and the coasts and wooing them to midsize cities and towns.

You won't make six figures right out of school, but you also don't need to. Median housing prices for 3 bedroom 2 bath starter here is like $200k.

> a talented developer that knows how to leverage LLMs

LLM usage is hardly a demanding talent in and of itself. Being able to judge and make the use/salvage/discard choice when the LLM presents the material it does is more about coding and less about 'talented with LLMs'. Anyone good at coding can add LLM without a huge challenge, so you don't *need* to find someone with 'LLM' experience and lack of it doesn't make you unemployable.

The whole damn point of LLM is, to the extent that it works, it's easy. Just the hiccup is that 'to the extent it works'.

If LLM-powered coding is going so well, where are the productivity stats to back it up? Where are the open source projects that are rapidly adding functionality to meet the feature-sets of their closed-source competitors? Answer: they don't exist. It's almost all hype.

I'm just going to respond here with multiple comments misinterpreting or just.. re-spinning my words.

By leverage LLMs, I mean utilize them to help increase your productivity. Dont conflate what I'm saying with vibe-coding or some other pseudo development c-suite daydream.

Real developers are seeing real benefits in their work flow. Orgs are also releasing internal LLMs for general use among non technical employees and trust me when I say, they are paying attention to who is using them and who isn't.

Yes, why not react to any jab of their business model, which is to feed drones to the machine?

No doubt they're as mad as wet hens. Journalism does that. Facts and truth to power is the dynamic. The NYT is not immune from influence, but the article citation has factual basis.

Countering capitalism is dangerous stuff.

Clearly they are right and we are wrong. That's the only answer that makes sense.

> This stupid is logic

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