California Now Has 68% More EV Chargers Than Gas Nozzles, Continues Green Energy Push (electrek.co)
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- News link: https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/25/09/28/0553221/california-now-has-68-more-ev-chargers-than-gas-nozzles-continues-green-energy-push
- Source link: https://electrek.co/2025/09/26/california-now-has-68-more-ev-charger-ports-than-gas-nozzles/
Since then they've added 23,000 more public/shared charging ports — and [2]announced this week that there's now 68% more EV charger ports than the number of gasoline nozzles statewide. "Thanks to the state's ever-expanding charger network, 94% of Californians live within 10 minutes of an EV charger," according to the announcement from the state's energy policy agency. And the California Energy Commission staff [3]told CleanTechnica they expect more chargers in the future . "We are watching increased private investment by consortiums like IONNA and OEMs like Rivian, Ford, and others that are actively installing EV charging stations throughout the state."
Clean Technica notes in 2019, the state had roughly 42,000 charging ports and now there are a little over 200,000. (And today there's about 800,000 home EV chargers.)
This week California announced another milestone: that in 2024 nearly 23% of all the state's new truck sales — that's trucks, buses, and vans — [4]were zero-emission vehicles . (The state subsidizes electric trucks — $200 million was requested on the program's first day.)
> Greenhouse gas emissions in California are [5]down 20% since 2000 — even as the state's GDP increased 78% in that same time period all while becoming the world's fourth largest economy.
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> The state also continues to set clean energy records. California was powered by [6]two-thirds clean energy in 2023 , the latest year for which data is available — the largest economy in the world to achieve this level of clean energy. The state has run on 100% clean electricity for some part of the day almost every day this year.
"Last year, California ran on 100% clean electricity for the [7]equivalent of 51 days ," notes [8]another announcement , which points out California has [9]15,763 MW of battery storage capacity — roughly a third of the amount projected to be needed by 2045.
[1] https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/25/03/31/0335254/california-has-48-more-ev-chargers-than-gas-nozzles
[2] https://www.energy.ca.gov/news/2025-09/california-exceeds-200000-electric-vehicle-chargers
[3] https://electrek.co/2025/09/26/california-now-has-68-more-ev-charger-ports-than-gas-nozzles/
[4] https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/09/23/nearly-1-in-4-new-trucks-buses-and-vans-in-california-go-zero-emission-2-years-ahead-of-schedule/
[5] https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/09/20/california-continues-streak-of-slashing-climate-pollution-while-growing-economy/
[6] https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/07/14/in-historic-first-california-powered-by-two-thirds-clean-energy-becoming-largest-economy-in-the-world-to-achieve-milestone/
[7] https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/clean-energy-serving-california/estimated-california-iso-clean-energy-days
[8] https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/05/19/since-governor-newsom-took-office-californias-battery-storage-has-increased-1944-and-just-achieved-a-major-milestone/
[9] https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/california-electricity-data/california-energy-storage-system-survey
Pull Quote (Score:3)
"FEDERAL ZEV INCENTIVES END SEPTEMBER 30
With federal incentives ending on Sept. 30, 2025, the time to buy a zero-emission vehicle (ZEV) is now. Tax credits up to $7,500 are available for purchase or lease of eligible new ZEVs, which include EVs and hydrogen-fueled vehicles, and up to $4,000 for eligible used ones. Federal incentives for at-home charging and associated battery storage are also available, up to $1,000. Find the right vehicle for you at ElectricForAll.org. "
So an advertisement for electric vehicles.
Most of the gain is from LA county, 29,433 09.2023 -> 72,994 02.2025
most of that from Public Level 2 and Shared Private Level 2.
Pub2 8,213 -> 25,337
Pri2 18,893 -> 44336
I'm still suspicious of these numbers...
Both Pub2 (Counting Planned as Built) and Pri2 (Labelling Unshared as Shared)
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> Why would you ever compare the quantity of nozzles vs chargers? Nozzles take 60 seconds to top you off. Chargers take 30 minutes. A better question might be how many chargers do you need to provide the same functionality as a single nozzle?
You make an excellent point. If most people can plug in to a private outlet at home each night, we should need a lot fewer public chargers than public nozzles.
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Most people cannot plug in to a private outlet at home each night because less than half the population own homes. Let them eat cake.
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Sounds like a building that offers EV chargers would be an incentive to renters.
Re: Stupid comparison, apples and bowling balls (Score:2)
Weird, i was in a public parking garage under an apartment building last night and there were a dozen ev charger stalls for maybe 60 total spots...
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Great for trips near home. Not so good for long distances. But that's a blessing in disguise. Perhaps soon, we'll see fewer Californians puttering around our state. If you want guns and ammo, just change your laws, Quit cleaning out all our gun stores and gun shows.
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>> Why would you ever compare the quantity of nozzles vs chargers? Nozzles take 60 seconds to top you off. Chargers take 30 minutes. A better question might be how many chargers do you need to provide the same functionality as a single nozzle?
> You make an excellent point. If most people can plug in to a private outlet at home each night, we should need a lot fewer public chargers than public nozzles.
The real question is what proportion of a day are nozzles actually occupied. I expect that number is extremely low. Chargers may take 30 minutes but they are just being used for a greater proportion of the day than gas nozzles. Furthermore, if there is twice the number of them than gas nozzles, tons of people also just charge at home overnight rather than using public charging stations and battery charge times are constantly decreasing I don't think a dearth of charging stations is going to be a problem unl
Can most people do that though? (Score:2)
I don't see a lot of apartments that have chargers and the ones I do see are recent and luxury and expensive.
I know some companies have free chargers but those are usually limited to the higher paid employees. Often through a system of outsourcing. e.g. the companies main office has chargers but they outsource all of the lower paid jobs to companies and offices that don't.
I mean we really are gradually switching over to a haves/have not civilization so it probably doesn't matter because we can just
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Because it's the most direct comparison there is, imperfect as it is.
"Nozzles take 60 seconds to top you off..."
That's bullshit. Listen to yourself.
"A better question might be how many chargers do you need to provide the same functionality as a single nozzle?"
But it's a question that doesn't address the point being made, it's a question that suits your narrative.
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Agree, mod up if I had points.
There are lots of complexities to the comparison because gas pumps fill MUCH faster, but there are a fair number of private electrical charges and very few private gas stations.
Not comparable (Score:1)
These are not really comparable. Fueling via electric is slower, but many people have home chargers so rarely need public chargers. But I'm glad that the idiots who used to complain "we'll never duplicate our gas infrastructure so electric is bad" will now shut up. Yeah, yeah, of course they'll just whine about something else, but I can dream.
Re: Not comparable (Score:2)
Your math sucks, clown
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"...will now shut up." LOL no they won't.
Still not good enough... (Score:1)
Now only if they had decent healthcare, they might be better then Germany...
It's bandwidth that matters (Score:2)
That's fine but what we really need to equalise the number of vehicles we can simultaneously, not raw numbers of nozzles vs chargers.
What I mean by that is that charging an EV takes significantly longer than fueling a car. Therefore we can achieve a significantly higher throughput of cars served with the same number of nozzles than chargers.
In practical terms it means that equalising the number of chargers and nozzles is not enough. We need significantly more chargers than nozzles to maintain the same numbe
Re: It's bandwidth that matters (Score:2)
But you can put that charger at your home and charge over night. I don't see anybody with a petrol pump in their driveway.
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Good thing there isn't a nuclear reactor except the one you made up in your troll.
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It's pretty obvious you're one person. So let's treat you that way.
> If they are all supercharging at once, you are looking at a total wattage draw of 3,560,000,000 Watts.... Aka, an Entire Nuclear Reactor, JUST for EV Charging. Creating between 1,514L and 2,725L liters of irradiated water per MWh.
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> Aka, 6 Million GALLONS of contaminated water to cool the Stack. This water will REMAIN contaminated for Decades (Cesium 30 year HL) to MILLENNIA (Plutonium 24,000 year HL) depending on reactor type, age, maintenance levels.
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> Then one must ask... "How does one 'Contain' Plutonium contaminated water for 24,000 years?" (Good thing we don't build this type anymore... But where is the water from the ones we HAVE built in the past?)
EVs have batteries on average between 50KWh and 100KWh. A quick search indicates there are about 1.3 million EVs in California. So... approximately 97,500,000KWh or 97,500MWh of total EV capacity. Charging literally every Californian EV from 0% to 100% consumes approximately that.
Another quick search tells us that California has a generation capacity of around 87,000MW. The fine summary above tells us that two years ago California was
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As a huge fan of Saint Kirk, I'd say that you sound like a homosexual commie abortionist trannie who hates America. ICE should drag you back to wherever your ancestors came from. I love Christ and live like Jesus did. Amen!
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Good thing that's not how a reactor works.
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"You might be surprised to find that most of central, eastern, and very northern Californians share your political ideas. We've always been "fruits and nuts" to hardcore red state folks. You will never understand California unless you try."
Every state is like that. The coasts have a higher proportion of urban living, the politics of CA and TX aren't nearly as different as people think, TX has less urban living, far more corrupt state politics and the worst gerrymandering in the country. That's the differe
Re: So... (Score:2)
So uhhh, don't be an idiot and use nuclear power then
Re: So... (Score:1)
How did you cram so much stupid into one post? Impressive!