YouTube Reinstating Creators Banned For COVID-19, Election Content (thehill.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/09/23/2123257/youtube-reinstating-creators-banned-for-covid-19-election-content
- Source link: https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5517922-youtube-reinstates-banned-creators/
> "Reflecting the Company's commitment to free expression, YouTube will provide an opportunity for all creators to rejoin the platform if the Company terminated their channels for repeated violations of COVID-19 and elections integrity policies that are no longer in effect," the company said in [2]a letter to Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), chair of the House Judiciary Committee. "YouTube values conservative voices on its platform and recognizes that these creators have extensive reach and play an important role in civic discourse. The Company recognizes these creators are among those shaping today's online consumption, landing 'must-watch' interviews, giving viewers the chance to hear directly from politicians, celebrities, business leaders, and more," it added in the five-page correspondence.
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> Alphabet blamed the Biden administration for limiting political speech on the platform. "Senior Biden Administration officials, including White House officials, conducted repeated and sustained outreach to Alphabet and pressed the Company regarding certain user-generated content related to the COVID-19 pandemic that did not violate its policies," the letter read. "While the Company continued to develop and enforce its policies independently, Biden Administration officials continued to press the Company to remove non-violative user-generated content," it continued. Guidelines were changed after former President Biden took office and urged platforms to remove content that encouraged citizens to drink bleach to cure COVID-19, as President Trump suggested in 2020, or join insurrection efforts launched on Jan. 6, 2021, to overthrow his 2020 presidential win. But the company said the Biden administration's decisions were "unacceptable" and "wrong," while noting it would forgo future fact-checking mechanisms and instead allow users to add context notes to content.
[1] https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5517922-youtube-reinstates-banned-creators/
[2] https://t.co/Y6klQ7pNzw
It's Always Fascism (Score:1, Offtopic)
1 Linguistic Fascism
Definition: The attempt to strictly regulate or police language itself - what words can be used, how meanings are framed, and what is considered “permissible” speech.
Mechanisms:
Imposing official vocabularies or banning certain terms.
Recasting old words with new ideological meanings.
Suppressing dialects, minority languages, or “unapproved” ways of speaking.
Goal: To shape how peop
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You keep saying Fascism where you mean tyranny. Fascism is a collectivist governmental system that best translates into trade-unionism. Power through the collective, or fasces, which comes from fascis, which is a faggot (kindling bundle), which is a group of fags (sticks).
People think Fascism means tyranny because Italy's version of collectivist socialism started out like most socialist governments in war-time. And worse, they sided with Hitler. National Socialism borrowed a lot from Italian Fascism.
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says the linguistic fascist demanding i conform my speech to their expectations. how about kindly go fuck yourself please :D
Oh boy... (Score:4, Informative)
Nice going, YouTube. But call Charlie Kirk a shit-disturbing prick and I betcha the King will demand the death of your channel.
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It's not hypocrisy. Their core belief is, "anything that helps my party is good. Anything that hurts the other party is bad." There's no room in that for fairness.
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yeah its all intentionally polarized to divide and conquer the masses so they never have a chance of coming together in unified opposition to our collective oppression.
everyone in power is a cunt, and it doesn't matter what type of cunt they are nor who may or may not agree with various aspects of their stated policies.
Re: Donny Soprano (Score:2)
I like everything you wrote but wish to point out that the word can suggests it might not be happening right now. These idiots are dangerous and people suffer every day because they are allowed to shoot their ignorant nonsense. It's not something that can happen, but rather something that *is happening*.
Like spreading hoaxes? (Score:1)
1. Fine People Hoax
2. Drinking Bleach Hoax
3. Russian Collusion Hoax
4. Jan6 was an insurrection
5. Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd
6. Shadow banning isn’t real
7. Climate models predict the future
Re: Like spreading hoaxes? (Score:2)
You keep using the word hoax but clearly have no idea what the word means.
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All of those are true and I'm tired of folks worried about the snowflakes they'll trigger by saying it.
Especially #4 it was an out and out insurrection and it was not a one day thing, it was the culmination of 10 weeks of a plot for Trump to coup the government and subvert the peaceful transition of power (fake electors scheme) and he actually got close, potentially only Mike Pence prevented it.
Seriously check Just Security timeline of the fake elector plot. It's real and of Republicans were not spineless
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People got sent to jail, sometimes for many years, until the fascist dictator pardoned them. A little more serious than a "parade", dontcha think?
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How was Russian collusion investigation a "hoax" exactly? MAGAs don't seem to know the meaning of the word, just echo their cult hero verbatim.
Because Trump threatened them (Score:1, Troll)
I mean not Trump himself that man has no idea where he is or what he is or who he is but the actual heritage foundation goons that run our country now.
The thing where we all pretend we can be experts without having to study or learn things is going to doom entire species. You can't give up on reality in a world full of modern military weapons and nuclear bombs. Not for very long anyway.
Maybe the next covid really will be a boomer remover. For years the Democrats counted on a demographic shift that n
truth is going out of style (Score:2)
Spreading known lies to the detriment of others ought to be illegal. But the politicians would never support such a bill. For too many of them, that's their bread and butter.
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There's plenty of countries where speech like that is illegal and you're free to move to any of them.
Time to eliminate Section 230 (Score:3)
Google would think twice about telling people to drink bleach if they could be sued by family members of dead bleach drinkers.
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> Google would think twice about telling people to drink bleach if they could be sued by family members of dead bleach drinkers.
Maybe, but AI seems to be assisting the Darwin Awards. Idiocracy is inevitable, but I would prefer it to be delayed.
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Idiocracy is by far not the worst outcome. A more probable outcome is demographic collapse in the West followed by technological collapse, where it is Warlords and Caliphates everywhere.
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By demographic, do you mean colored vs white, or other things? Who do you think is more idiocratic?
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Indeed. We really need to establish accountability for the likes of Google. Or things will go even more to shit.
Might as well (Score:2)
For every human they banned there are 10,000 AI bots doing worse. YT is quickly becoming irrelevant drivel, and I hope the viewership quits letting Alphabet treating them like "users". Because it's no different from being a drug user/addict.
Misquoted (Score:2)
The Hill misquoted Alphabet, which did not refer to "false election content", but rather to "elections integrity policies".
Google Alternatives Thread (Score:1, Troll)
Well. It seems that Google has been cowed by -- or now is under the complete control of -- fascist filth.
Post links to viable substitutes for Google's various services here.
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You should move away from Google services, but not because they refuse to enforce your political views, but because they agreed to enforce Democrat's political views while they were in power and now seems to doing the same for Republicans.
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You should seek help. Delusions this strong are not good.
Ah ... reverse canceling (Score:2)
Is this reverse canceling or just canceling the cancelers. It's almost comical that the folks that used to toss around accusations of canceling are now having parties to celebrate canceling.
This would almost be comical and entertaining if it weren't real life.
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People accuse others of doing things, then they do things that other people say they are doing. It all seems like crap to me. But, the lawyers seem to make money in all cases.
To say the obvious... (Score:2)
I think the Covid-19 deniers were mostly Russian Trolls who wanted to kill as many Americans as they could, as cheap as they could. The Election Deniers were mostly Russian and Chinese trolls who seem to be succeeding in destroying American Democracy.
Spreading misinformation (Score:1)
is not illegal, as much as you might not like it, other than certain very narrow circumstances like libel or promoting financial schemes or direct threats.
Re:Spreading misinformation (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes. So it should be legal for them to make that change. It should also inform everyone that YouTube is even less trustworthy than you previously thought. (Unfortunately, it probably won't.)
Alphabutt (Score:4, Insightful)
> Dear YouTube Viewers,
>
> This is to inform you that we are up Moutholini's ass,
> and too far up to change our kiss-up policies,
> so please don't ask.
>
> Thank You,
> -YouTube's OrangeNosed Management
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Everything in Rand "The Klan Lying Shitrag" Seed's post here is a lie. Nothing they said is real and if you look at their posts they have NO experience in medical practice.
Congratulations you toddler-raping subhuman fuck, you've proven what a ChatGPT-written garbage screed is like.
Now kill yourself you worthless fucking toddler-raping sack of shit. NOBODY wants you disgracing our species any more "Randseed." You need to stop fucking breathing NOW you fucking disgusting childraper and grandparent-murdere
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Hey "iamthecheese" nothing is worse than an antivaxer. Just stick a gun in your mouth and end yourself you babyraping fucking inhuman.
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That is called misinformation. The issue is that YOU are unable to fact-check competently.
Re: Spreading misinformation (Score:2)
> Alphabet blamed the Biden administration for limiting political speech on the platform. "Senior Biden Administration officials, including White House officials, conducted repeated and sustained outreach to Alphabet and pressed the Company regarding certain user-generated content related to the COVID-19 pandemic that did not violate its policies," the letter read.
I must have missed the impassioned pleas from 400 Hollywood A-Listers condemning the government for shutting down YouTubers , silencing criticsof the government...
Anyone got a link?
Im positive everyone on the left wailing about supposed government suppression of Jimmy Kimmel was just as outraged when these content creators were silenced BY THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION...
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I disagree. Mass-media (and youtube is that) should not be allowed to blatantly support the spread of misinformation. There are other ways though, like they could add warnings or references to actual information. But that would cost money and they are deep into greed these days.
Re: Spreading misinformation (Score:2)
Jimmy Kimmel spread misinformation on national TV, so it's OK that he was taken off the air?
Just checking...
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He did not. You are just incapable of understanding English. What Kimmel said fas factually accurate. But there are a lot of MAGAs that DID spread misinformation in this matter. Why did nothing happen to them?
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I sort of agree with you, but the appropriate thing to do is to change the law, not to violate it in the name of "doing what's right". It's true that this would mean amending the constitution, and that's difficult, but they have the legal right to choose what they allow.
OTOH, it would be quite reasonable to deny that they are common carriers if they use editorial judgement as to what posts to allow. That would be an easier approach, and in line with what's been done in the past. I just feel that it's bla
Re:Spreading misinformation (Score:5, Insightful)
Removing misinformation is not illegal either. It's common sense.
Unfortunaetly, catering to the king for favors is more profitable.
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> Who decides it's misinformation?
Who decides what words mean?
Re: Spreading misinformation (Score:2, Informative)
Misinformation has a definition. Hint, if someone thinks there is such a thing as alternate facts they can't tell accurate information from misinformation. Of you go now ...
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Also a private platform's definition of misinformation can not only be imperfect, but they're legally within their rights to remove far more than just misinformation, and could remove content by whatever criteria they please. There are audiophile forums that will remove documentation of attempts at scientific testing. Truth Social will ban you for criticizing Trump or saying things he doesn't like. TwitX will ban you for saying things Musk doesn't like (often things that could pose a risk to his vested inte
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> The only alternative to any of this is to find another platform, or start your own.
FTFY.
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>> Removing misinformation is not illegal either. It's common sense.
> Who decides it's misinformation?
> Quite a few times things which were deemed misinformation back during the COVID times turned out to be different than official sources said (at first or later).
The closest thing I can think of would be the "There are no studies showing that masks are effective when worn by the general public" statements early on when they needed all the N95 masks for medical personnel. But even that wasn't really disinformation; it was just stating the absence of supporting evidence, and later, when supporting evidence appeared, there was no longer a lack of supporting evidence.
There's a difference between being wrong and spreading disinformation. The former requires either know
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> The former seems way more acceptable to me
This is only because you haven't through this through. "detrimental to public health" is not nearly as objective as we need it to be. Instead, it is often a substitute to "advantageous to financial interests of a pharmaceutical company". For example, opioid epidemic and false claims that oxy is not addictive.
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I have an idea. Maybe we shouldn't let science-denying Fucking Inbred Retards like "DaHat" decide what's misinformation.
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Sounds like misinformation right there, perhaps a ban is in order?
Oh wait... I wasn't advocating for bans nor pushing definitons.
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> Quite a few times things which were deemed misinformation back during the COVID times turned out to be different than official sources said (at first or later).
If the best available evidence indicates X, but you believe Y based on gut feel, then later solid evidence of Y is developed, were you right? Further, should this experience convince you to trust your gut over the best available evidence in the future?
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It is not about being right. It is about having a process that essentially works, even when it sometimes temporarily delivers flawed results. If you are right once, by accident, that is worse than worthless if you think you were right by insight.
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Well, you are cult member, correct? Because it is really hard to fail reality perception THIS badly without that.
Here is a hint: All you say may be somewhat true, but it is grossly INCOMPLETE. And as soon as you get a reasonably complete picture, all the implications you are trying to push turn into lies.
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>> Removing misinformation is not illegal either. It's common sense.
> Who decides it's misinformation?
There is this thing called "Science". You may have heard of it, but you obviously never looked at it.
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> Jimmy Kimmel just got pulled off the air for saying something TRUTHFUL
While I do not support censorship of Kimmel, lets not pretend that his claims that CK shooter was MAGA had any truth to it.
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> While I do not support censorship of Kimmel, lets not pretend that his claims that CK shooter was MAGA had any truth to it.
Kimmel didn't make that claim. He said that MAGA people were scrambling to prove that the killer wasn't one of them. And he was right.
Kimmel also said that Trump was mourning Kirk the way a child mourns a goldfish. He was right about that too. When a reporter asked Agent Orange how he was coping after the death of Kirk* he lasted about ten seconds before he started rambling about his new ballroom.
*A man who Trump publicly described as a friend and being like a son to him.
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> Kimmel didn't make that claim. He said that MAGA people were scrambling to prove that the killer wasn't one of them.
It takes creative re-interpretation AND unwarranted benefit of the doubt to hear that in what he actually said. I watched the clip, it was clear to me what he meant. Did you watch him?
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>> Kimmel didn't make that claim. He said that MAGA people were scrambling to prove that the killer wasn't one of them.
> It takes creative re-interpretation AND unwarranted benefit of the doubt to hear that in what he actually said. I watched the clip, it was clear to me what he meant. Did you watch him?
Let's look at what Kimmel actually said.
> We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
As you can see, Kimmel did not claim the alleged murderer was part of MAGA. Rather, he said MAGA people were going out of their way to say that he was not part of MAGA. Which may in fact turn out to be true. We don't know for sure yet.
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Keep on lying "sinij" you disgusting Subhuman Toddler-Raping White-Supremacist Klan Shitrag. We all know what you Fucking Toddler-Raping Nazi Shitbags are good for - FERTILIZER.
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There you MAGA toddler-raping fucks go lying again. No surprise, all of you should be rounded up and Kirked for raping children.
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>> Jimmy Kimmel just got pulled off the air for saying something TRUTHFUL
> While I do not support censorship of Kimmel, lets not pretend that his claims that CK shooter was MAGA had any truth to it.
Just as the massive claims of the other side had no truth to it either because NOBODY has real information at that time. Where they punished for that?
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Kimmel claimed, without any evidence, that Charlie Kirk shooter was MAGA. This was transparent attempt to create a false narrative that the shooting was not yet another example of radical left's violence.
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> Kimmel claimed, without any evidence, that Charlie Kirk shooter was MAGA.
No. He didn't. See our exchange a few posts above this.
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You lie. Does that make you feel good about yourself?
Re:Spreading misinformation (Score:5, Insightful)
> Removing misinformation is not illegal either. It's common sense.
There is nothing easy about identifying what is actually misinformation and what is inconvenient information. For example, until Biden's brains melted on a national TV, concerns over his mental decline were labeled misinformation.
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> For example, until Biden's brains melted on a national TV, concerns over his mental decline were labeled misinformation.
I am not from America, so I do not worship either of its major cults.
That said, you may be making your point in a backwards fashion. While it does seem evident that some language decline under pressure was a thing, I haven't seen any evidence of what most people describe as mental decline. Biden seemed - under normal circumstances - to remember things, and there wasn't any sign of problems with decision-making. I don't mean to imply that he was right to run for re-election and I don't mean to imply th
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> Unfortunaetly, catering to the king for favors is more profitable.
Short-term, yes. Long-term, no so much. That is why societies that want a future do not have a kind and do something about misinformation.
Re: Spreading misinformation (Score:2)
Did you miss the part where it was the previous king (Biden admin) that decided to have YouTube take them down or suffer repercussions?
Naw, you knew that, but its OK when Democrats violate peoples 1st amendment rights, amiright?
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It doesn't matter because Youtube gets to set its own policy on what content to allow on their platform. Nudity isn't illegal but that doesn't mean Youtube has to allow it.
Re: Spreading misinformation (Score:2)
So you are ignoring the part where THE BIDEN ADMIN ordered these folks offline? (YouTube already restored accounts that YouTube on its own took down gor violating YouTube rules, the story here is that these are the accounts that DIDN'T violate YouTube policies, the BIDEN ADMIN ordered them shutdown because the BIDEN ADMIN objected to their content.
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We all know politicians lie, and that journalists stopped fact checking them long ago. Yet when you take the moment to realize what that means - that they are the biggest spreaders of misinformation - minds blow.
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> We all know politicians lie, and that journalists stopped fact checking them long ago.
I think you need to examine which news outlets you consult. Here, these resources may help:
[1]https://adfontesmedia.com/ [adfontesmedia.com]
[2]https://ground.news/ [ground.news]
Maybe this too:
[3]https://www.snopes.com/ [snopes.com]
[1] https://adfontesmedia.com/
[2] https://ground.news/
[3] https://www.snopes.com/
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Trump/Carr/Blondi told them to say that -or else. "We can do this the easy way, or the hard way."
Re:Spreading misinformation (Score:5, Insightful)
It's good to know that "Conservative" now means spreading false COVID-19 claims, as well as election lies. I mean, they literally said that.
It used to stand for fiscal responsibility. Conservatism now means openly embracing lies about a whole host of things.
It's fucking pathetic.
Re:Spreading misinformation (Score:4, Insightful)
Yep, Orange shitbag took over the Republican party with his nationalist/populist/fascist MAGA nonsense built on fear and lies. True conservatives should be upset their party was infiltrated, though I all we seem to hear is crickets, between the sounds of ass-kissing.
He didn't take over the Republican party (Score:2)
This was always the plan. As the baby boomers die off and the older gen xers that about the same benefits from the New deal and Great society go with them the Republican party was doomed.
Birth rates cratered in 2000 so the demographic shift didn't happen but time keeps marching on and thanks to automation devouring the middle class the only ones with any money are the New deal and Great society kids. Basically anyone over 50.
You can't have a population of 320 million dirt poor people that's a democra
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Don’t forget the latest “alternative fact” that tylenol causes autism.
Re: Spreading misinformation (Score:2)
Its just one of those wacky right-wing conspiracies being pushed by [1]Harvard Medical School [harvard.edu] based on a review of 31 clinical studies, 4 of which found no connection, which means 27 studies confirmed the conclusion?
[1] https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/using-acetaminophen-during-pregnancy-may-increase-childrens-autism-and-adhd-risk/
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Spreading misinformation is not illegal but any information that directly or indirectly contributes to someone's death should hold the person posting the misinformation culpable in that death.
You can talk about BS like flat earth or God's existence or lack thereof till you're blue in the face, but it won't contribute to someone's death, people know you're a crank already.
But when you start casting blame for X on population or person Y, you're directly contributing to that violence. When you start blaming va
Re: Spreading misinformation (Score:2)
Does "Liable" cover falsely accusing the accused Charlie Kirk killer of being Republican/conservative/MAGA?