Canon is Bringing Back a Point-and-Shoot From 2016 With Fewer Features and a Higher Price (theverge.com)
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- News link: https://it.slashdot.org/story/25/09/09/1932201/canon-is-bringing-back-a-point-and-shoot-from-2016-with-fewer-features-and-a-higher-price
- Source link: https://www.theverge.com/news/774095/canon-powershot-elph-360-hsa-kendall-jenner-reissue-price-specs
The new version switches from SD to microSD cards and removes Wi-Fi image transfer and direct printing capabilities. The rerelease comes after celebrities including Kendall Jenner and Dua Lipa popularized the original model on social media. The camera will be available in black or silver only; the original purple option has been discontinued.
[1] https://www.theverge.com/news/774095/canon-powershot-elph-360-hsa-kendall-jenner-reissue-price-specs
A question the emperor might always ask (Score:2)
Ah, but how much is it in 2016 dollars?
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Just looked it up on the US Bureau of Labor Statistics site ("fake news", right, lol) , and $379 now can only buy as much as $278 did in January 2016.
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So since the old camera was $210, it's still more for less, just not as much more as it looked at first glance.
$286 (Score:2)
So it's almost $100 more. A good chunk of that is probably either tariffs or trying to get ahead of tariffs.
The national sales tax is going to really start to show up in the economy come October. That's when companies run out of supply that they stockpiled at the start of the year before the trade war started.
Prices are going to skyrocket right before Christmas. It's going to be rough.
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A good chunk of that $100 is inflation, some of which predates tariffs.
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> A good chunk of that $100 is inflation
Just what do you think the term "2016 dollars" actually means? Think about that for a moment.
So, less for more? (Score:2)
Not even AI?
They didn't learn (Score:2)
One of the many reasons phones killed physical cameras was the headache of transferring photos to services like flickr, facebook, and other sharing mediums. Getting rid of wifi is going the wrong direction, it needs wifi, direct print, a GPS for geotagging images, and direct streaming to sites like twitch, youtube, and twitter.
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Sadly yes. I have a few Canon DSLRs and an EOS M-series mirrorless. I don't really use them as much as I would prefer simply because it's awkward. They take much better photos but since there's no option for a cloud backup even if manually triggered, I'm left with finding a local solution that is always going to be more cumbersome.
Canon had tried, sort of, to develop ways to offload pictures wirelessly, but it was always cumbersome or required buying extra equipment. It wasn't as simple as choosing phot
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JFC, you people can't be bothered to plug a USB cable into the camera and the computer and transfer the pictures over? Kids today, sheesh.
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I have used a USB cable from the camera to copy to the PC. It's dog-slow. It's about the worst transfer speed I've seen. Honestly I have no idea how the EOS Webcam Utility that they developed during COVID-19 actually worked.
Thing of it is, if I am out and about taking photos I will have my phone on my person. I probably won't have a laptop. At-best it's cumbersome to copy photos.
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Feels like when older tech goes viral on TikTok it's a nostalgia trip for the old way of doing things. "Put a card in a thing to read it? So wacky! How did live back then?!"
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All of which adds cost, which if you are aimed a making a quick profit is a no-no.
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So I'm no expert but the entire market for these phones is people who don't want those features because they don't want them getting in the way.
It's people paying a premium, honestly probably old people, in order to have fewer features so they don't have to wade through them.
Like a really expensive version of a flip phone.
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Old people ? People who follow Dua Lipa and the Jenners/Kardashians on social media ?
Those old people ?
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I mean yeah. If you're still following the Kardashians you're probably in your 40s.
Time Marches on buddy. Time Marches on.
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Not counting USB Mini. It is not the later USB Micro, no, it is the USB Mini that I associate with PS3 sixaxis controllers. The GPS unit I got for motorcycles also uses USB Mini, at USB 1 speeds.
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> The GPS unit I got for motorcycles also uses USB Mini, at USB 1 speeds
It's GPS, what are you expecting the GPS system to provide you with that needs more bandwidth?
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Standalone GPS units require maps. An upload of just roads might not be that large a download, but include terrain, trails, gas stations, restaurants, etc. and the downloads get to be quite large and cumbersome at USB-1 speeds. Especially if you are planning a trip across multiple countries, as isn't that rare anymore on motorcycles. It took about 2 hours on a hotel WiFi for me to load Mexico and all of Central America's data onto my GPS unit (osmAnd on a rugged phone, actually) when I started my trip..
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> It's GPS, what are you expecting the GPS system to provide you with that needs more bandwidth?
Map updates.
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> Not counting USB Mini. It is not the later USB Micro, no, it is the USB Mini that I associate with PS3 sixaxis controllers. The GPS unit I got for motorcycles also uses USB Mini, at USB 1 speeds.
Mini USB is a way better connector than micro USB. I don't understand why they would cripple a device in this day and age with USB 2.0 speeds and a legacy connector when you can use USB-C, though.
Then again, I also don't understand why Canon hasn't figured out that cameras should be able to charge their own batteries when plugged in. Not that I wouldn't take a charger with me when traveling, but it's handy to not have to use it, and to be able to unplug the charger from my laptop or phone and plug in my c
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They're also giving up chance to charge camera buyers a Subscription fee after a 90 day trial, for a cloud-based upload connector service where the camera sends your images to Canon's servers and presents you a sharing menu to distribute your photos to all those sites.
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> One of the many reasons phones killed physical cameras was the headache of transferring photos to services like flickr, facebook, and other sharing mediums. Getting rid of wifi is going the wrong direction, it needs wifi, direct print, a GPS for geotagging images, and direct streaming to sites like twitch, youtube, and twitter.
As a Canon 5D Mark IV user, I'm just going to say this: I blame Apple. Entirely.
Most of the people who have the disposable income for these things use an iPhone. The iPhone tethered Wi-Fi experience *sucks*, because there's no way to tell it "Use this network ONLY as a non-routed network". It forces you to route all traffic out Wi-Fi. That means when you connect to the camera, you lose Internet service. So you connect, transfer the files, and disconnect.
And it is flaky as heck. Every so often, the pho
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> I still keep an old 12MP Canon digital camera. It's a travel model and I like it because it uses real SD cards, has a nice 35-50mm optical zoom built in, and best of all it runs a shocking long time off lithium AA batteries. 12MP is still plenty for snapshots and such.
Here's the thing: My phone has the same resolution (or 4x the resolution at 24mm), with a 13mm to 77mm optical zoom range (in fixed increments at 13, 24, 48, and 77) and doesn't require me to manage storage. It runs all day for multiple days, realistically, and doesn't require me to carry an extra device.
Yeah, having reduced depth of field from a larger sensor would be nice, but a 1/2.3" sensor won't give you enough of that to make that much difference.
This one is at least a superzoom camera (25mm–30
Is the CEO from Hollywood? (Score:2)
Looks like we're going to get tech reboots now?
People who will buy a camera bc a celeb uses it... (Score:2)
...probably aren't going to do their research, and will be willing to buy a shittier version for a higher price.
This camera is a fashion accessory for shallow people.
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But there might still be people who buy the camera despite the celeb endorsements. I actually liked the old PowerShot models, and I have one myself.
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I am still fond of the A430.
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I am one of those people who really don't like cell phones.
i bought my first (and only) smartphone in 2020, to use it as a camera -- because I couldn't find a new point-and-shoot camera in the stores to replace my old broken one! During the first two years, I didn't even have a SIM card for it.
Back in 2020, I would have loved to have something like the original PowerShot Elph 360 HS.
Today though...