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The Troubling Decline in Conscientiousness (ft.com)

(Friday August 08, 2025 @05:22PM (msmash) from the closer-look dept.)


Conscientiousness levels among young adults have [1]fallen substantially since 2014 as people in their twenties and thirties report increased distractibility and carelessness alongside decreased tenacity and commitment-making, according to Financial Times analysis of Understanding America Study data.

The personality trait, which research links to longer lifespans, career success, and relationship durability, has witnessed its steepest decline during and after the pandemic. Young adults simultaneously showed rising neuroticism scores and declining extroversion measures, transforming from society's most outgoing age group to its most introverted.



[1] https://www.ft.com/content/5cd77ef0-b546-4105-8946-36db3f84dc43



tl;dr; (Score:5, Funny)

by Oh really now ( 5490472 )

tl; dr;

No shit... (Score:2)

by FuegoFuerte ( 247200 )

People thought we could just shut down all social interaction for a number of years and shove gadgets into people's hands with anti-social media intentionally designed to breed toxic conflict, and not have anti-social behavior result from it? It's like people watched Idiocracy and saw it as a model society we could work toward.

Re: No shit... (Score:2)

by blue trane ( 110704 )

What if the most toxic part of social media is the banning, which feels like the most personal of attacks?

Re: (Score:2)

by FuegoFuerte ( 247200 )

That's like saying the most toxic part of MEK is the E. It's one big toxic package.

Re: No shit... (Score:2)

by blue trane ( 110704 )

If I'm free to fight the toxic self-expressions of others without a mod banning one or the other of us, do I feel better about myself (at least I'm fighting words with words!)?

Re: (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

This reminds me of a (former) friend of mine who had the attitude that he was bullied in high school because his peer group regularly excluded him from non-compulsory social gatherings. The thing is, he was an asshole, he'd get angry easily and yell at people (for seriously trivial things), he'd generally bring down the mood of the group. Why would they want to hang out with him? They didn't. So they didn't invite him. But instead of asking himself why they didn't want to spend time with him; maybe doing so

Re: No shit... (Score:2)

by OrangeTide ( 124937 )

You can and should ban people in real life. Refusing to interact with people who are not interestes in a mutually beneficial relationship is normal. If someone car jacks me, I cross him off the invite list to my BBQ.

When did they change the definition of Conscientio (Score:3)

by Currently_Defacating ( 10122078 )

conscientious(adj.) 1610s, of persons, "controlled by conscience, governed by the known rules of right and wrong;" of conduct, etc., "regulated by conscience," 1630s, from French conscientieux (16c.; Modern French consciencieux), from Medieval Latin conscientiosus, from Latin conscientia "sense of right, moral sense" (see conscience).

conscience(n.) c. 1200, "faculty of knowing what is right," originally especially to Christian ethics, later "awareness that the acts for which one feels responsible do or do not conform to one's ideal of right," later (late 14c.) more generally, "sense of fairness or justice, moral sense."

This is from Old French conscience "conscience, innermost thoughts, desires, intentions; feelings" (12c.) and directly from Latin conscientia "a joint knowledge of something, a knowing of a thing together with another person; consciousness, knowledge;" particularly, "knowledge within oneself, sense of right and wrong, a moral sense," abstract noun from conscientem (nominative consciens), present participle of conscire "be (mutually) aware; be conscious of wrong," in Late Latin "to know well," from assimilated form of com "with," or "thoroughly" (see con-) + scire "to know," probably originally "to separate one thing from another, to distinguish," related to scindere "to cut, divide," from PIE root *skei- "to cut, split" (source also of Greek skhizein "to split, rend, cleave"). The Latin word is probably a loan-translation of Greek syneidesis, literally "with-knowledge." The sense development is perhaps via "to know along with others" (what is right or wrong) to "to know right or wrong within oneself, know in one's own mind" (conscire sibi). Sometimes it was nativized in Old English/early Middle English as inwit. Russian also uses a loan-translation, so-vest, "conscience," literally "with-knowledge."

More than one Meaning (Score:4, Insightful)

by Roger W Moore ( 538166 )

Like many words in English is has more than one meaning. It can still be used in the original sense that you describe and it seems like that the "diligent" meaning grew from a specialized use of the more general interpretation i.e. doing what is right, meaning working hard and carfeully.

Re: (Score:2)

by Roger W Moore ( 538166 )

carfeully --> carefully....clearly the article is right!

Re: More than one Meaning (Score:2)

by blue trane ( 110704 )

Is AI more conscientious about spelling than you?

Re: More than one Meaning (Score:2)

by Currently_Defacating ( 10122078 )

Yea, but when? This is far from a common usage of the word, and the article even stretches the usage of working diligently.

If your company asks you to harm people, should you be conscientious of working hard or of the people you are being asked to harm?

Re: (Score:2)

by smooth wombat ( 796938 )

Yea, but when? This is far from a common usage of the word,

No it's not. You conveniently left out [1]another definition [dictionary.com] of conscientious:

> careful and painstaking; particular; meticulous; scrupulous.

>

> conscientious application to the work at hand.

In re: your question, the person would pay attention to the details of harming someone as they were instructed. For example, a mob hit. They wouldn't just walk up to the person in broad daylight with hundreds of people around and shoot/stab them (though this has happened). Instead, they would observe the target, find out their routine, where they live, then, when that

[1] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/conscientious

Re: More than one Meaning (Score:2)

by Currently_Defacating ( 10122078 )

If you notice I never said they didn't use a a valid definition, I asked when this definition came into being. That's why I posted the etymology I did. And I stand by this not being the most common usage of the word.

*insert personal attack here*

career success? (Score:4, Insightful)

by sphealey ( 2855 )

What we might call the "Financialization Generation", which held the reins from ~1975 to at least 2021, deliberately and knowingly destroyed the conditions under which the great majority of people could experience anything known as 'career success' [1]. That they are now paying researchers to bemoan that those so undermined lack "Conscientiousness" about their work environment is a bit rich.

[1] yes, we all know some successful entrepreneurs, the guy with 17 money-earning patents, and the super-hustlers who are on track to retire at 35 by dint of working seven jobs 120 hours/week. Those are far distant outliers to the mean

Re: career success? (Score:1)

by getuid() ( 1305889 )

This.

Increasingly, all you win by being able, focused and determined is the right to mere survival. All the while the mlst powerful and rich persons in the world treat facts as a mere suggestion, truth as a matter of taste, and logical thinking as a point of view.

Re: (Score:2)

by russotto ( 537200 )

Sorry, old man, "young people" are mostly zoomers now.

Re: (Score:2)

by Marful ( 861873 )

Yes this. Exactly this.

Clearly our society is in decline (Score:1)

by 2TecTom ( 311314 )

This is the inevitable result of classism and the resulting corruption. Civilization as we know it is about to collapse once again because of the moral rot from within. Is civilization doomed by the unethical actions of the upper class? Not inevitably, but quite possibly, unless those actions are curtailed and the systems enabling them are transformed.

The danger is real, and we’re in a critical window. The upper class, due to their influence, bears disproportionate responsibility. But doom is not a fo

Re: (Score:2)

by 2TecTom ( 311314 )

I forgot to mention the classist paywall. Just saying.

Re: Clearly our society is in decline (Score:3)

by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 )

If that was really the cause, then civilization has been in decline since time immemorial.

Re: (Score:1)

by znrt ( 2424692 )

the only civilization that still exists consistently today since "time immemorial" is china. you might count in india to some extent.

one common assumption in modern western civilization is that it is the civilization, the end of history blablabla. yet this ignores that it is only about 200-300 years old and has been in decline for about the last 30, at an accelerating rate. that's because, like most past civilizations that are no more, it is founded on colonialism/imperialism which is simply not sustainable

Re: (Score:2)

by 2TecTom ( 311314 )

Both Chinese and Indian societies have collapsed many times. Their modern society has little to do with their past which is the same as our situation. The problem is scale. At this scale, power is absolute and absolute power corrupts absolutely. All our governments are way too large and way too corrupt. There's little or no connection between the rulers and we the people.

Re: (Score:2)

by 2TecTom ( 311314 )

many civilizations have come and gone, ours is just the next in line but they all died for the same reasons, they became corrupt, decedent and irresponsible

Re: (Score:2)

by Vancorps ( 746090 )

Sorry, you sound old. I suffer from workhorse syndrome as do a great many of my peers. The harder you work, the more efficient you work, the more work is piled on. Work ethic no longer plays a part, the company gives me the work of 5 to 10 other people because that is definitely cheaper and more efficient for the stock price. In reality its abuse of your best resources and creates unsustainable output.

Much like the resistance to making things energy efficient to reduce the impact of climate change, current

Re: (Score:1)

by FingerStyleFunk ( 1180457 )

How many cycles has this dirtball had anyways? How many Brahma cycles have there been? We have to guide ourselves out, but greed...

Re: Devil's advocate -- why does it matter? (Score:1)

by Venova ( 6474140 )

not for me

Article Paywall (Score:2)

by eepok ( 545733 )

Is there a link to the article without a Paywall or are we just accepting the summary as the basis for all discussion on the matter?

Re: (Score:2)

by know-nothing cunt ( 6546228 )

There's [1]not really much to it [archive.is]. Though perhaps I didn't read it conscientiously enough.

[1] https://archive.is/ImbMc

PTSD (Score:2)

by abulafia ( 7826 )

Hm. So folks who were small kids when the US ramped up a massive security panic, kids during a period of economic upheaval, Teens during our global experiment with raising children by cell phone, and are now trying to learn how to adult in another brewing economic mess, with creeping fascism and "AI" weirdness distorting everything.

All while being forced to go to schools bitter shitbag losers like to shoot up.

When you're powerless in an environment that is constantly changing and frequently hostile, it d

Re: (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

It was both sides. The Dems have had full control of things for many years. They didn't do anything except help themselves. Not that the Republicans are much better, but if someone is snuffling in the pig slop, they are just as dirty as the other hogs and sows.

The Dems blew their last chance. Now the Reps are creeping closer to that 2/3 margin in the Senate... and when that happens, kiss all Dems good-bye, because it will be an impeachment assembly line with the 2/3 Senate marging convicting them and ya

I don't buy it (Score:1)

by hdyoung ( 5182939 )

self-reporting and surveys produce notoriously unreliable data.

Take a look at the research on the flynn effect. That stuff is pretty solid. The wiki page has data until around 2000. More recent data is a bit harder to find, but from what I see, no serious researchers are reporting major dumbing-down in the population. Things may have reached a plateau in first-world countries, but people aren't getting dumber. Yes there are tons of booger-eating morons in the population, but overall humans are the smart

We have one friend who is so late... (Score:2)

by MikeDataLink ( 536925 )

That we actually tell him to meet us 1 hour before we actually plan to be there. If we say "Dinner at 7", we tell him dinner is at 6. And then sometimes he's still late!

Re: (Score:2)

by pauljlucas ( 529435 )

I don't get why you or anyone puts up with such people. I'd start the dinner on time. If that person misses it, oh well. Actions should have consequences.

We know damn well why short-term thinking happens (Score:1, Troll)

by rsilvergun ( 571051 )

When people get the absolute shit kicked out of them non-stop by life they learn to live in the here and now and the moment.

You can't make any plans because at any moment the entire economy collapses around. You know that anything you have isn't going to last because you don't have a stable society to live in.

I see this with my kid despite my best efforts. It's not too bad because I have shoveled money their way in order to make sure they can succeed in a career by getting a good degree and getting

Re: (Score:1, Troll)

by jacks smirking reven ( 909048 )

> That has created a psychopathic society run by a psychopathic government. And it's starting to show up in psychological damage to children.

Exactly, why are we complaining that people are getting rude when we've decided to make the face of the nation the most rude, divisive and cruel person we've ever had represent a major party. Just look at the social media of the White House and DHS, it's deranged, mean spirited and hateful.

This is who we are spoiled and repugnant rich kids who have lost all sense of decency and what made us rich in the first place.

Conscientious is perceived as bad (Score:2)

by Fons_de_spons ( 1311177 )

I used to be very detailed in my work. Then my manager said I shouldn't be such a perfectionist and work faster and more sloppy. I did just that. Projects failed, profit was high as we were just a third party and we were still less sloppy than the other contractors. So they got the blame. My manager was right.

Being conscientious is perceived as a handicap these days. Just shout and cheat your way through. That is the path that leads to profit.

Commitment making (Score:2)

by Petersko ( 564140 )

That checks. Trying to make any kind of commitment to something casual a week in advance with younger people is annoyingly difficult.

"Busy next Thursday evening?" Shouldn't be met with, "I don't know. I'll have to see." The right answer is, "Now I am!"

It's an extension of how people visiting over coffee feel the need to check their phone. It's rude. It's saying that whatever unknown might come along is more important.

Hey guys, I'm building a machine (Score:1)

by rsilvergun ( 571051 )

So I am building a machine that takes the energy from Boomer threads and converts it into electricity and these kind of threads really messed that up.

The sudden increase in power cause the machine to explode and it's taken out about a half a city block.

Anywho could we maybe cut back on these threads for just a little bit while I work out the kinks? Thanks.

Poor reporting on a paywalled article. (Score:1)

by bloggerhater ( 2439270 )

Poor reporting on a paywalled article.

Surprise.

Conscientiousness ? Whats the point (Score:2)

by Growlley ( 6732614 )

boomers have stolen everything not nailed down for the next 100 years and have their eyes on the nails.

Being civil in society (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

There's value in being civil, gracious, courteous, respectful, even when disagreeing with someone. Everyone gets along better. For some reason people have stopped teaching and practicing that. We all have differences and will always have differences. These are important skills that need to be learned, practiced, and exercised, in order to maintain civility in any society.

Instead we have devolved to the order of the elementary school playground, where the loudest bully who successfully shits on everything an

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