Microsoft's $30 Windows 10 Security Updates Cover 10 Devices
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- News link: https://it.slashdot.org/story/25/08/07/190249/microsofts-30-windows-10-security-updates-cover-10-devices
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[1] https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/10/31/2011223/want-to-keep-getting-windows-10-updates-itll-cost-you-30
[2] https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-10/microsoft-just-made-windows-10s-usd30-extended-support-program-an-even-better-deal-but-you-now-need-a-microsoft-account-to-pay-for-it
Lol. I've already switched to Linux. (Score:3, Informative)
Wasn't hard.
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It's hard not to think the surge in Linux desktop users wasn't a big factor in this.
Weird times.
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> Wasn't hard.
Am in the process of switching to Mint 22 (Cinnamon) full-time. Not hard, but tedious. Already duplicated my Firefox and Thunderbird configurations, and converted all my complex spreadsheets from Excel (and budget in Lotus 123 - which still works fine under Win10 btw) to LibreOffice Calc and figured out similar alternatives to AxCrypt (ccrypt and/or 7zip). Still hung up on a good alternative to Publisher; LibreOffice may work okay for new files, but not so much with existing files, maybe Scribus or stop
Re:Lol. I've already switched to Linux. (Score:4, Interesting)
> Still hung up on a good alternative to Publisher
If it makes you feel any better, whether you're on Windows or Linux, you need to be looking for an alternative to Publisher... it's been deprecated and has an EOL about a year out. You can, of course, continue to run it, but I can't imagine running any MS software that doesn't get security updates anymore, especially one that's an Office component.
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> you need to be looking for an alternative to Publisher... it's been deprecated and has an EOL about a year out.
Good to know, thanks.
> I can't imagine running any MS software that doesn't get security updates anymore, especially one that's an Office component
I'm using Office 2010, so am used to no Office updates for a while now. :-) Guess I could just keep my Windows 10 system offline (or more heavily fire-walled) going forward -- I imagine some people will do that for some things after October ...
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My suggestion is Scribus, as it's FOSS and fully capable of producing professional output, and in fact, is used by a number of professional publishers on a daily basis. If you want more detail, go to their [1]website [scribus.net], look around and see for yourself.
[1] https://www.scribus.net/
MS account is a deal breaker (Score:2, Insightful)
I set up friends and relatives on local accounts. One of them was going to pay the $30 instead of upgrade (6th gen i5). He mostly just uses Libreoffice, a scanner, and email. I should offer to support him on Linux for $25.
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I'm curious whether this deal is really to correlate up to 10 PCs to a family.
What's an MS account anyway?
Translation (Score:3, Insightful)
If you give us a copy of all your data so we can feed it to our AI, we'll pay Chinese hackers to keep updating Windows 10, so you can keep subscribing to defense software, for only $30!
Re: Translation (Score:2)
Yep. Transparently says they are profiting from people using OneDrive, even for free. There's many ways they could be doing that, but I bet they all involve using the shared data in ways nobody would want.
a subcutaneous bolus of lede toxin (Score:2)
Wait, they're charging extra for security updates? That doesn't sound right. Is that a thing?
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Redhat always had Microsoft envy then predictably ended its life as a division of IBM. Say no more. Friends don't let friends use Redhat.
Re: You think $30 is usurious? (Score:2)
You could always tell a poseur because they used RHEL alpha, AKA Fedora.
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You mean Ubuntu. Fedora is actually a really solid distro. You can tell the true posers though because they think things like distro actually matter, as if they aren't compilations of the same upstream FOSS software with the most minor differences between them at best.
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>> You could always tell a poseur because they used RHEL alpha, AKA Fedora.
> You mean Ubuntu. Fedora is actually a really solid distro.
No, I meant what I said, poseur.
Nobody who gives a fuck about Linux would run Redhate for years on years now.
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My experience with Fedora, using it for a couple of years, was that it breaks frequently and significantly when updated. Applying updates was always an adventure...what will break this time? The fixes would usually come within a few weeks.
Major updates were a no-go. My system wouldn't even start after one, and it was beyond my technical ability to repair. It became my habit to just wipe the system and reinstall for major updates (which wasn't too bad since I keep all my data on a devoted drive separate
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While that is true, Microsoft had promised that Windows 10 would the the last version they ever release.
And there is also the fact that Windows 11 was only released 4 years ago, and it is a bit shit. As they said, every second Windows version is one you want to skip.
So there are still lots of devices out there that run Windows 10, and people have no intention of upgrading until Microsoft does better than Windows 11.
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Microsoft makes promises for marketing reasons only. Promises don't have any bearing on their actual plans or actions.
A life free of this abuse is reserved for those wealthy enough to afford Apple, or smart enough to understand Linux.
Looks generous, still useless and more a scam than (Score:2)
Windows 11 is an abomination. Yes you can take your time to configure it. But apart other considerations. Like MS artificially blocking updates (there is really no reason for the CPU requirement), which makes this look like a generous offer. The reality is that W11 is the summon of their tick-tock scheme. It is worse than vista. It is worse than ME. It is add loaded stuff that i dont even want for free.
Under the hood, MS has great tech. But the bad user experience is entirely themselves to blame.
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This. Windows 11 is the version you want to skip. At least people will try.
Linux covers more devices. (Score:2)
Each Linux security update will cover, um, 50 billion devices or more ! And you won't need as many updates, a small fraction actually, because Linux doesn't have that many holes to begin with. And Linux security updates will work properly and not mess up your box. Usually. And you don't have to reboot. Usually. Unless it's a critical kernel flaw, which is rare, and even then there are ways to avoid reboot if that is important to you.
If you give a toss about security then you simply need to bin Microsoft.
Yikes! (Score:2)
All three options ... nope, nope, and NOPE.
This will have limited effect, security-wise (Score:2, Interesting)
A very large segment of Windows users have NEVER payed for an OS update or upgrade, and they aren't about to start doing so now. Mark my words, they'll end up walking back on the planned (and entirely fake) obsolescence of Windows 10. All of these Windows machines that are no longer being updated will be targeted in a huge malware campaign at some point, and it will be a big deal. This is the type of thing that gets politicians talking and bringing up the "M" word again, and MS wants to avoid this at all
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Mark my words, they'll end up walking back on the planned (and entirely fake) obsolescence of Windows 10.
I don't share our optimism.
All of these Windows machines that are no longer being updated will be targeted in a huge malware campaign at some point, and it will be a big deal.
I share your pessimism.
PR/Legal-cover (Score:1)
My guess is that Microsoft's lawyers and PR department are pressuring the C-Suite to get as many Windows 10 users to do anything OTHER than run Windows 10 without updates, whether that's upgrade to 11, pay for extended support (in cash and in privacy), or bail on Windows entirely (macOS, Linux, etc.).
The bad PR that will come when gazillions of exposed Windows 10 machines are not getting patched will be bad for Microsoft, and it may lead to lawsuits or investigations by regulatory bodies.
By making these kin
Microsoft needs to be forced to support by law (Score:2)
Microsoft should be forced to provide security updates in perpetuity. Stop making AI gimmicks and support people who use their computer for actual work. Car companies have to provide parts for decades so should Microsoft. They can afford it since they have more money than Dr Evil demanded.
Liar repeating marketing lies (Score:2)
> Windows 10's support ends October 14, 2025.
This is a marketing lie to drive adoption of Win11. Shame on /. for repeating false Microsoft claims as fact.
SOME VERSIONS have support ending on that date. Some versions are already out of support. Most importantly, some versions have mainstream, non-ESU support ending in 2027, 2029, and 2032 . And not only that, for most use cases these are by far the best versions of Windows 10 (and for a lot of the cases where it's not, 11 can be worse because of them throwing out a lot of compatibility capabilities).
Re: "users who sync their PC settings to OneDrive" (Score:3)
Syncing a VM then using an offline updater is an easy fix for those who care but I too am not among them. Making piracy easy was effective market chumming that served its purpose and still does.