Should California's Grid Join a Larger Regional Electricity Market? (latimes.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/07/21/0557216/should-californias-grid-join-a-larger-regional-electricity-market
- Source link: https://www.latimes.com/environment/newsletter/2025-07-17/the-power-grid-battle-thats-dividing-california-environmentalists
But that bill "has bitterly divided environmentalists," with some seeing it "as a plot by greedy energy companies to enrich themselves."
> Supporters say it would smooth the flow of solar and wind power from the sunny, windy landscapes where they're produced most cheaply to the cities where they're most needed. It would help California keep the lights on without fossil fuels, and without driving up utility bills... [S]olar and wind power are still cheaper than planet-warming coal and fossil gas. Which is why Michael Wara, a Stanford energy and climate scholar, isn't worried that SB 540 will leave Californians drowning in dirty power. In a regional market, solar and wind will usually outcompete coal and gas. "Any energy source that requires fuel to operate is more expensive than an energy source that doesn't," he said.
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> California also needs to prove that a grid powered entirely by clean energy is affordable and reliable. The state's [1]rising electric rates are already a big concern. And although the grid has been stable the last few years, thanks to batteries that [2]store solar for after dark , keeping the lights on with more and more renewables might get harder. Regional market advocates make a [3]strong case that interstate cooperation would help.
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> For instance, a market would help California more smoothly access Pacific Northwest hydropower, already a key energy source during heat waves. It would also give California easier access to low-cost winds from New Mexico and Wyoming. Best of all, that wind is often blowing strong just as the sun sets along the Pacific. Another benefit: Right now, California often generates [4]more solar than it can use during certain hours of the day, forcing solar farms to shut down — or pay other states to take the extra power. With a regional market, California could sell excess solar to other states, keeping utility bills down. "This is about lowering costs," said Robin Everett, deputy director of the Sierra Club's Beyond Coal Campaign.
"Unlike with past regional market proposals, California would retain control of its [5]grid operator , with only a few functions delegated to a regional entity," the article points out. But opponents still worry this would give new powers to an outside-of-California group to thwart clean energy progress if not gouge customers. Amendments passed this week add a "Regional Energy Markets Oversight Council" to address that concern — but which [6] lost support for the bill from some of its earlier supporters .
"The amendments would make it easier for the Golden State to bail," notes the climate newsletter, and "Out-of-state utilities don't want to waste time and money committing themselves to a California-led market only to lose California, and thus many of the economic benefits..."
[1] https://www.latimes.com/environment/newsletter/2025-03-27/californians-pay-too-much-for-electricity-here-are-three-bold-solutions-boiling-point
[2] https://www.latimes.com/environment/newsletter/2024-12-05/column-l-a-s-massive-new-solar-farm-is-cheap-and-impressive-more-please-boiling-point
[3] https://woodsinstitute.stanford.edu/system/files/publications/Woods_Grid_Regionalization_White_Paper_v05_WEB.pdf
[4] https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-11-24/california-has-so-much-solar-power-that-increasingly-it-goes-to-waste
[5] https://www.caiso.com/
[6] https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000198-0628-d8be-adf9-f6bbebb20000&nname=california-climate&nid=00000189-315c-d8dd-a1ed-797dc9f10000&nrid=0000016f-e020-d848-afef-ffebecff0000
Yes (Score:3)
If California joins the larger grid, it would most likely lower the electricity price in California and also in the rest of the USA. It would also most likely lower CO2 emissions. It would also most likely lower the probability of peak prices and blackouts. IMHO only losers would be fossil energy providers.
Re: (Score:1)
This could go very right or very wrong.
Re:Yes (Score:4, Insightful)
This is the future. Highly interconnected grids that can move energy from where it is available to where it is needed.
Re: (Score:2)
That would sound promising, but as long as trucks work on fossile fuel ...
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We have EV trucks in Europe. Big batteries, decent range, fast charging.
The devil is in the details (Score:2)
The issue is not being part of a larger market. The issue is the deal signed and all the unanticipated consequences. Who is going to get rich doing this?
Inevitable? (Score:2)
Europe has been moving towards a common energy market since 2006, and currently most of Europe is integrated, and the transition to renewable energy is part of this.
Impact assessments have shown various technical, economic and administrative benefits, resulting in significant cost reductions.
California's electricity grid should definitely be integrated, but with a clear strategy for transitioning to renewable energy. With a reduction in cost and less CO2 emitted, perhaps it is inevitable?
Requisite California Bashing (Score:2)
Happy to be one of the eight.
Re: (Score:1)
> Happy to be one of the eight.
Yup. Dunno about the other 7, but this sounds an awful lot like a personal problem to me.
It’s also called States Rights. Californians have every right to vote with everything from their voices to their wallets, which no one was bitching about having that Right when they were the first state to legalize weed for medical use. Or when they decided to enact “sanctuary” status for the unhoused and undocumented that also choose to mainly congregate in that state.
For all that bullshit bragging