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BRICS Demand Wealthy Nations Fund Global Climate Transition (reuters.com)

(Monday July 07, 2025 @05:30PM (msmash) from the how-about-that dept.)


Leaders of the BRICS group of developing nations addressed the shared challenges of global warming on Monday, the final day of their summit in Rio de Janeiro, demanding that wealthy nations [1]fund mitigation of greenhouse gas emissions in poorer nations . From a report:

> In his opening remarks, Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who will host the United Nations climate summit in November, also blasted denialism of the climate emergency, indirectly criticizing U.S. President Donald Trump's decision to pull his country out of the 2015 Paris Agreement.

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> "Today, denialism and unilateralism are eroding past achievements and harming our future," he said. "The Global South is in a position to lead a new development paradigm without repeating the mistakes of the past." Trump took issue on Sunday with veiled criticism from the BRICS group, accusing the bloc of having "anti-American policies" and threatening them with extra 10% tariffs.



[1] https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/brics-demand-wealthy-nations-fund-global-climate-transition-2025-07-07/



Re:Go BRICS! (Score:5, Insightful)

by Entrope ( 68843 )

Demanding "Bribe us, you fucks" is not acting like an adult.

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by aldousd666 ( 640240 )

agreed. this is five year old temper tantrum type serious

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by ukoda ( 537183 )

While I sympathize with the BRICS position, I would agree demanding is not the way to deal with wealthy nations. It is pretty much a get off Scott free card for wealthy nations as they then get to play the victim too.

Re: Go BRICS! (Score:2)

by ArmoredDragon ( 3450605 )

The IC in BRICS utterly dominate the list of the world's 1000 most polluted cities. Sure, the vast majority of that list consists of Chinese cities, but India has a monopoly on the top 10. In fact, only a handful of those cities aren't in BRICS countries.

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by ls671 ( 1122017 )

And it sounds like they're asking NATO/G7/etc nations, anybody but BRICS nations to pay for everything...

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by Zocalo ( 252965 )

It does, but there's a [1]slight issue [wikipedia.org] with that. In terms of the world's largest economies by GDP the BRICS countries rate as:

#2: China

#4: India

#10: Brazil

#11: Russia (sanctions not withstanding)

#17: Indonesia

#28: United Arab Emirates

#38 South Africa

#42: Egypt

#44: Iran (again, despite the sanctions)

#66: Ethiopia

Now it's not like these countries are doing absolutely nothing to mitigate things, but it would be really interesting to see some numbers on exactly how much of a proportionate contribu

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

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by AleRunner ( 4556245 )

> While I sympathize with the BRICS position.

Do we really? Brazil, perhaps. Currently India is financing and China is actively aiding in an invasion by Russia. Perhaps when Russia is stopped and removed from Ukraine and China and India pay for the restoration of the country to at least as good a state as it was before their pet attacked it, perhaps then we should consider paying something towards their needs. As it is now, the best thing to do is to fund the Ukrainian destruction of Russian oil and gas assets.

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by DarkOx ( 621550 )

What wealthy nations? Who are they, Qatar? Saudi Arabia?

Last I checked the western world mostly has massive debts and current deficits.

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by MacMann ( 7518492 )

> someone needs to step up and act like an adult!

Are you claiming that BRICS are the adults in the room? It appears to me that they are children demanding something be done for them while making no effort to lift a finger towards lowering CO2 emissions and other greenhouse gases. They want wealthier nations, like the USA, to pay for energy production in less wealthy nations, such as those in BRICS.

I'll keep seeing claims that solar power is cheaper than coal power, and wind power is cheaper than natural gas. If that is true then where is the need for m

Re:Go BRICS! (Score:4, Informative)

by dbialac ( 320955 )

China has the second largest economy in the world and yet they're still a developing nation? Russia hasn't been a developing nation since the end of WWII and neither has South Africa, though both are working valiantly at reverting to being such.

Already done! (Score:5, Insightful)

by Geoffrey.landis ( 926948 )

What's neglected here is that the rich nations have already done this, by funding a decades-long research and development effort which reduced the cost of solar panels from about $500 a watt in 1980 to under $0.5 a watt in 2025.

Re: Already done! (Score:1)

by That's What She Said ( 1289344 )

But at the same time, since the 90â(TM)s, these same 1st-world countries moved all of their industrial activity to China and other 3rd-world countries.

There was absolutely no concern about how much Chinese factories would pollute, even though scientists from these same 1st-world countries were already warning their governments of the consequences of large-scale industrial activity.

Itâ(TM)s also debatable how much the R&D in solar alone contributes to solving the problem.

And, last but not least

That will fix it (Score:2, Insightful)

by ukoda ( 537183 )

> Trump took issue on Sunday with veiled criticism from the BRICS group, accusing the bloc of having "anti-American policies" and threatening them with extra 10% tariffs.

Tariffs, the new miracle cure for any problem. If doesn't solve the problem then just raise the tariffs. Why am I reminded of the old poster "The beatings will continue until moral improves"?

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by Oliver Wendell Jones ( 158103 )

[1]https://www.facebook.com/share... [facebook.com] Hope you don't mind, I couldn't let that insightful comment get lost in the shuffle...

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by Zocalo ( 252965 )

You should post that on Truth Social for the Lulz. I hear Donnie likes big simple charts. :)

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by DrMrLordX ( 559371 )

Nobody claimed that tariffs would solve climate change. They're intended as a threat against stupid BRICS nations as a response to their obvious grift.

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by ukoda ( 537183 )

The problems with threats is there has to be a clear relationship about what actions will trigger what response. The problem with TACO is if you do something you may, or may not, get tariffs. Likewise if you do nothing you may, or may not, get tariffs. They are a meaningless tool as trump is too unpredictable.

The correct response to this obvious BRICS grift is to ignore it, and make policies based getting the best results. Fuck Russia, China is doing fine already and the rest should get some help, bu

Translation= (Score:2)

by Papaspud ( 2562773 )

give us money, because reasons......

Pot, Meet Kettle (Score:5, Insightful)

by ironicsky ( 569792 )

BRICS

Brazil

Russia

India

China

South Africa

China is responsible for 35% of all global greenhouse gas emissions

Between these countries, they represent over 55% of total global greenhouse gases

Brazil, China and India are also 3 of the top environmental destruction countries globally.

China, India and Russia and Brazil, as 4 countries have the same GDP as the USA.

Pay for your own mistakes yourself.

Demand whatever you want (Score:2)

by devslash0 ( 4203435 )

You're still not getting any of my tax money.

oh god (Score:2)

by kaatochacha ( 651922 )

Number Two world economy demands someone else finance something.

Pony (Score:2)

by cascadingstylesheet ( 140919 )

> demanding that wealthy nations fund mitigation of greenhouse gas emissions in poorer nations.

And in turn, I demand a pony.

Oh wait, people can't just up and demand stuff? Dang.

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