Near Antarctica, Saltier Seas Mean Less Ice, Study Finds (nytimes.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/07/04/1725220/near-antarctica-saltier-seas-mean-less-ice-study-finds
- Source link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/30/climate/antarctic-sea-ice-salinity.html
> A study published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences found that increases in salinity in seawater near the surface could help [1]explain some of the decrease in Antarctic sea ice that have been observed over the past decade, reversing a previous period of growth.
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> "The impact of Antarctic ice is massive in terms of sea-level rise, in terms of global warming, and therefore, in terms of extremes," said Alessandro Silvano, a senior scientist at the University of Southampton studying the Southern Ocean and lead author of the study. The findings mean "we are entering a new system, a new world," he said.
The Times adds: "the Department of Defense announced it would be no longer be providing some of the satellite data that researchers use to monitor changes in sea ice."
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/30/climate/antarctic-sea-ice-salinity.html
Miracles: F'ing Science, How Do They Work? (Score:4, Insightful)
You fellows get so excited whenever we have to revise the science around climate change.
I'm genuinely curious, do you believe we'll one day revise it out of existence? If that's your hope, I'm going to have to burst your bubble right now...
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What wonderful theater you're putting on for all of us.
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We had a lot of rain where I live in the last two days. The local news reported this as a result of climate change. It could be, but how do they know this specific event is due to climate change?
This exact type of hysterical reporting is what's creating skeptics. I want to see the evidence the reporters used to come to that conclusion, but they **NEVER** provide it.
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Here you go:
[1]https://www.sciencemediacentre... [sciencemediacentre.org]
[1] https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-texas-floods/
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also really, this, this, is your version of "hysterical", they even qualify their words. hope you are not married lol jesus christ
The devastating floods in Texas are a stark reminder of how intensifying extreme weather events driven by climate change are interacting with land-use change, urbanisation, and aging infrastructure to produce severe impacts. While individual flood events are influenced by multiple factors, we know that warmer air holds more moisture, increasing the likelihood of intense rainfal
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Don't expect climate change denialists to argue fairly or logically, or to support their arguments with facts and evidence; their beliefs are more of a religion than logic, and they will not let go of them lightly.
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The crappy journalism off it irks me.
I like to imagine of the old movie trailer voice over saying it: [1]"In a world ..." [youtube.com]
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGNqI6RYBrQ
To me the real news here (Score:3, Insightful)
is that the DOD will not be providing any more satellite images. I am guessing that the reason is that if you deny something is happening, then it won't.
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Don't Look Up
This link provides more detail ... (Score:5, Insightful)
[1]https://joannenova.com.au/2025... [joannenova.com.au]
NYTimes provided no links to the study.
[1] https://joannenova.com.au/2025/07/suddenly-2-million-square-km-of-sea-ice-is-missing-near-antarctica-and-all-the-climate-models-were-wrong/
Antarctica gaining ice... (Score:2)
Of course, NASA recently released satellite data showing that total Antarctic ice has increased in recent years. Now, maybe that is ice on land, since sea ice is decreasing - especially around the peninsula, due to volcanic activity. However, the actual ESA press release notes that this doesn't make any sense either, since melting sea ice should reduce the saltiness of the water.
At this point, honestly, it may be measurement errors. If it's not, it may be that the salinity is responsible for the loss of s
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> Of course, NASA recently released satellite data showing that total Antarctic ice has increased in recent years. Now, maybe that is ice on land, since sea ice is decreasing - especially around the peninsula, due to volcanic activity.
You are correct. One report was regarding an increase in land ice, while the other report was regarding a decrease in sea ice.
> At this point, honestly, it may be measurement errors. If it's not, it may be that the salinity is responsible for the loss of sea ice, rather than any sort of climate change. Further investigation needed.
The question is not whether the increased salinity is likely causing the decrease in sea ice; that seems like a safe presumption. The question is what's causing the increased salinity?
Out of sight, out of mind (Score:3)
You can’t have a climate catastrophe if you don’t look up - taps head . It works swimmingly as long as the body needs are looked after, despite the brain unhindered by reality. Usually they shuffle mindlessly about and moan about the freedom they lost in vapid irony. But if it’s deep enough, and they are truly faithful, that realization will lie beyond their grasp to the last breath.
Re: salt desolves ice...news at 11 (Score:3)
The news is not the effect of salt on ice, it's that the seas have been saltier around Antarctica. That is an unexpected part of the equation accelerating ice loss from coastal Antarctica.
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Maybe this is the culprit? Every year, Rhode Island uses 44.2 tons of salt per mile
> The country used about 164,000 tons of road salt in 1940, U.S. Geological Survey data shows. It broke 1 million tons in 1954, 10 million in 1985, and now averages more than 24 million tons a year.
> “We have only recently begun to recognize the serious long-term consequences of excessive road salt use,” said Marc Edwards, a Virginia Tech corrosion expert who helped uncover the lead drinking water crisis in Flint, Michigan.
> The Northeast is a top contributor. ClearRoads, a national consortium that researches and promotes winter road maintenance solutions, tracks how much road salt state governments use every year. At the top are five New England states that used the most salt per mile of road lanes over the past four years: Rhode Island (44.2 tons), Massachusetts (34.6 tons), New York (28.0 tons), New Hampshire (25.1 tons) and Vermont (23.3 tons).
> [1]https://smartaboutsalt.wildapr... [wildapricot.org]
[1] https://smartaboutsalt.wildapricot.org/news/8401233