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Websites Hosting Major US Climate Reports Taken Down (apnews.com)

(Friday July 04, 2025 @11:00AM (BeauHD) from the science-censorship dept.)


An anonymous reader quotes a report from the Associated Press:

> Websites that displayed legally mandated U.S. national climate assessments [1]seem to have disappeared , making it harder for state and local governments and the public to learn what to expect in their backyards from a warming world. Scientists said the [2]peer-reviewed authoritative reports save money and lives. Websites for the national assessments and the U.S. Global Change Research Program were down Monday and Tuesday with no links, notes or referrals elsewhere. The White House, which was responsible for the assessments, said the information will be housed within NASA to comply with the law, but gave no further details. Searches for the assessments on NASA websites did not turn them up.

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> "It's critical for decision makers across the country to know what the science in the National Climate Assessment is. That is the most reliable and well-reviewed source of information about climate that exists for the United States," said University of Arizona climate scientist Kathy Jacobs, who coordinated the 2014 version of the report. "It's a sad day for the United States if it is true that the National Climate Assessment is no longer available," Jacobs said. "This is evidence of serious tampering with the facts and with people's access to information, and it actually may increase the risk of people being harmed by climate-related impacts."

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> "This is a government resource paid for by the taxpayer to provide the information that really is the primary source of information for any city, state or federal agency who's trying to prepare for the impacts of a changing climate," said Texas Tech climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe, who has been a volunteer author for several editions of the report. Copies of past reports are still squirreled away in [3]NOAA's library . NASA's [4]open science data repository includes dead links to the assessment site. [...] Additionally, NOAA's main climate.gov website was recently forwarded to a different NOAA website. Social media and blogs at NOAA and NASA about climate impacts for the general public were cut or eliminated. "It's part of a horrifying big picture," [said Harvard climate scientist John Holdren, who was President Obama's science advisor and whose office directed the assessments]. "It's just an appalling whole demolition of science infrastructure."

National climate assessments are more detailed and locally relevant than UN reports and undergo rigorous peer review and validation by scientific and federal institutions, Hayhoe and Jacobs said. Suppressing these reports would be censoring science, Jacobs said.



[1] https://apnews.com/article/climate-change-national-assessment-nasa-white-house-057cec699caef90832d8b10f21a6ffe8

[2] https://nca2023.globalchange.gov/

[3] https://repository.library.noaa.gov/

[4] https://www.nasa.gov/osdr/



The book burning has begun (Score:2)

by butt0nm4n ( 1736412 )

Goose step. Goose step. Everybody together now.

Re: (Score:2)

by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 )

The witch burning has begun as well. The book burning is largely strategic; but the burning of witches has everything to do with superstition and the utter denial of reality.

For "witches" you can substitute "scientists", "professors", "foreigners", and any of dozens of other possible bogeymen. Arthur Miller chose the Salem witch trials as an allegory for McCarthyism. I think there are important parallels between the McCarthy era and the Trump era.

Re:The book burning has begun (Score:4, Interesting)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

"Those who burn books will in the end burn people"

[1]https://www.bbc.com/news/artic... [bbc.com]

They can build concentration camps in a week while stepping over homeless citizens in the street.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyrnrnxy7yo

Re: (Score:2)

by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 )

That's your problem, Archie, the trump party delivers. The Democrats could not.

So the brave and the free flock to the winner.

A behaviour as Amurrikan as the Mickey D apple pie.

Re: The book burning has begun (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

You are about to be crippled by higher costs on everything and you gloat. One country has made a deal with Trump. They aren't concerned. Canada will have some rough spots but in the end there will be trading routes expanded to everywhere else in the world which will be excellent in the long run.

republicans don’t want to know (Score:5, Insightful)

by zeiche ( 81782 )

so weird. they did the same thing with covid. seems like if they can’t predict something bad is gonna happen, then it won’t happen.

Re: (Score:2, Troll)

by Calydor ( 739835 )

If we stop testing then the number of reported cases will go down, dontchaknow?

When are people going to realize that this American government actively gets off on harming and killing people? Or do people actually realize it and just shrug because so do they?

Re: (Score:2)

by znrt ( 2424692 )

it seems they're afraid. of their own people. wonder why.

Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

by gweihir ( 88907 )

We do know Reuplican voters are dumber and the MAGAs are the dumbest of the dumb. This is just one more indicator.

Re: (Score:2)

by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 )

> We do know Reuplican voters are dumber and the MAGAs are the dumbest of the dumb. This is just one more indicator.

I assume "Reuplican" was clever wordplay and not a typo, but either way, it definitely works...

As for GOP voters and MAGA voters being dumb: I think some in those camps are smart but misled. Decades of propaganda can bypass intellect.

Re: (Score:3)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

The Common Stages in the Life Cycle of a Cult

1) The Big Idea. A leader or leaders propose a new transcendent idea that promises a panacea solution for alienated and vulnerable people. This big idea promises to solve all problems; to end loneliness, isolation, and a sense of personal failure. It makes vague promises of meaning and salvation. There is usually a charismatic leader or a single text with its own coded language that spreads the big idea.

2) Love-Bombing. Cult leaders and early devotees recruit fro

Re: (Score:2)

by gweihir ( 88907 )

It was a typo. The spell-checkers over the different browsers and systems I use are now _very_ inconsistent and sometimes I forget.

> As for GOP voters and MAGA voters being dumb: I think some in those camps are smart but misled. Decades of propaganda can bypass intellect.

I simplify that as "dumb". If you have mental capability, but do not use it, this could also be "dumb by choice" or "intentionally dumb", i.e. not a fate but a choice and hence with full responsibility. Which is worse.

As to the effects of propaganda, just look at the diverse cults and (misnamed) "religions". But again, at least in the west, people generally chose to be part of s

Re: (Score:3)

by ElimGarak000 ( 9327375 )

> fuck - /. has turned into a bunch of retarded people

Yes, Mr. Coward, it does seem that there is a predominant trend toward the right wing amongst the general /. populace, but we don't use the r-word anymore, you know; call them willfully ignorant instead.

Re: (Score:3)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

Now do the peer reviews for those articles.

What a lovely legacy (Score:2)

by thegarbz ( 1787294 )

History remembers fondly the people responsible for burning the Library of Alexandria right?

Re: (Score:3, Informative)

by caseih ( 160668 )

Or the book burnings in 1930s Germany by the Nazi party. The historical parallels with 1930s Germany and the fall of the Wiemar Republic are quite striking.

Re:What a lovely legacy (Score:4, Interesting)

by stabiesoft ( 733417 )

Anyone else get the Social Security Big Beautiful Bill email praising donnie? Yeah its getting bad. I've only been getting SS emails for a couple years and this new kiss ass email was unlike anything before. Usually they were just little info emails like don't forget to ... Now its kissing donnie's ass.

Re: (Score:3)

by ElimGarak000 ( 9327375 )

> "making it harder for state and local governments and the public to learn what to expect in their backyards from a warming world." Its probably gonna get warmer. Then colder. A LOT colder. The Maunder minimum is a Solar cycle that WILL come again. Global "Warming" won't be on anyone's lips when that happens again ;-D

And yet it will, because it will continue to be a real thing. And even in the perhaps-extreme scenario where the continually warming oceans do end up resulting in a partial or full collapse of the AMOC, quite probably triggering a new Little Ice Age in Europe, the words "Global Warming" and "Climate Change" will , once again, continue to be on the lips of those who don't think they know better than the subject matter experts.

We're cooked (Score:3)

by GooberPyle ( 9014301 )

We've passed the point of no return. From here all we can do is slow it down a little. So far little has happened worldwide. In the USA we are excited to amp it up. Pointless AI and Bitcoin data centers are making it worse. Nice job running things billionaires.

The rise of glorified stupidity (Score:2)

by shilly ( 142940 )

This article below applies to practically everything about America right now, from adding trillions to its debt to the anti-vaxx shite, to this latest thing.

[1]https://www.reddit.com/r/thebu... [reddit.com]

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/thebulwark/comments/1ljbvtw/hottest_take_stupidamericans_are_the_new/

Trump Brand Idiocracy (Score:2)

by BrendaEM ( 871664 )

Idiocracy was probably meant to be a warning--not an instruction manual on how to employ the most dangerously unqualified cabinet, making all the most stupid choices, ever.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy

And? (Score:2)

by Savage-Rabbit ( 308260 )

So another thing that MAGA gets butt-hurt over has been disappeared. Is anybody surprised? What Was the excuse? Purging satanic anti Trump commie moose-lamb science?

Re: (Score:2)

by ndsurvivor ( 891239 )

I am not surprised. Next Trump will get control over the GDP and unemployment numbers, and they will be meaningless. All he has to do is repeat stuff over and over again, and his supporters will believe him.

Housed within NASA (Score:1)

by PPH ( 736903 )

So there they are. Go get them.

The problem with climate web sites is that there are hundreds of them. All reposting the same few studies. And all referencing each other.

I know what Google bombing is. The correctness of information shouldn't depent on how many copies are floating around. How much CO2 is being generated by this anyway?

The Revenge of Of the Sharpie Master (Score:2)

by AlanObject ( 3603453 )

Remember when someone took a weather forecast map and altered it with a sharpie pen to make a political point?

Didn't work so well.

This is revenge for that.

Re: (Score:2)

by ndsurvivor ( 891239 )

I don't know why some people have to be the expert on everything. Trump sees a hurricane going in a direction, and assumes that it will keep going in that direction. He just has to be the Authority on everything, even though weather forecasters said the hurricane will not go there, he says it will. It did not. I simply can not understand narcissists. If other people are right, I say they are right and I yield the floor to them.

A watched clock never boils.