Automakers Clash With India Over 'Aggressive' Emission Limits (energyconnects.com)
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- News link: https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/25/07/01/081225/automakers-clash-with-india-over-aggressive-emission-limits
- Source link: https://www.energyconnects.com/news/oil/2025/july/automakers-clash-with-india-over-aggressive-emission-limits/
The Society of Indian Automobile Manufacturers warned the plan risks billions of rupees in penalties and threatens future investments in the $137-billion auto sector. The proposal represents more than twice the pace of India's previous emission reduction target and forms part of the third phase of Corporate Average Fuel Efficiency norms first introduced in 2017. The industry body wants a more gradual 15% reduction target and opposes different standards for small versus heavy vehicles.
[1] https://www.energyconnects.com/news/oil/2025/july/automakers-clash-with-india-over-aggressive-emission-limits/
Air pollution from driving KILLS PEOPLE (Score:3)
Indian urban air is spectacularly bad, so the idea of strong enforcement in this area is entirely appropriate. The inevitable whinging by those currently making money by selling murder devices is to be resisted. The polluter pays principle - which is merely the enforcement of the idea that you aren't free to damage me by your actions - should be the starting point. Sadly its implementation will be painful and it's always easier to look away.
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Its not the cars' fault if you have over a 1bn people centered in highly dense cities. See china.
It's a soluble part of the problem (Score:2)
So should be addressed. My local government wimped out of implementing a clean air zone because drivers whinged loudly - and here cars are THE major cause of air pollution deaths
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[2] https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/andy-burnham-defends-scrapping-clean-31501349
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> Indian urban air is spectacularly bad, so the idea of strong enforcement in this area is entirely appropriate.
Just a quick note, the regulations discussed here are about carbon dioxide emissions (and also, not mentioned in the headline, about trying to reduce India's dependence on imported oil), not about particulate pollution, carbon monoxide, or nitrogen oxide emissions.
India is great for EVs (Score:4, Insightful)
India is fantastic for EVs - lots of sunshine... need for low/short range cars.
They are right (Score:2)
They are right. It totally ruined all the fun options in the US. Somehow a 7 liter diesel dually truck is fine to daily drive, but a 50mpg 2.0 turbodiesel in a small passenger car is so restricted as to ban the category entirely.
Emissions rules pretend efficency doesn't matter by not caring if a vehicle makes the air 1% dirtier to avoid burning 20% more fuel vs a vehicle that is 1% cleaner but burns 20% more fuel.
To them if a vehicle could theoretically burn 200% more fuel to make the air 10% cleaner, it wo
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It is possible to make sensible efficiency and emissions laws without repeating the stupidity of what the USA did.
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I imagine they're referring to Europe given their focus on small turbo diesels. As far as I know those were never terribly popular in the US while they were definitely a thing in Europe.
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7 liter diesel trucks in Europe?
Sure, freight trucks maybe. As a 'daily drive'? Hell no. You can get into fewer and fewer cities / environmental zones with diesels.
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> They are right. It totally ruined all the fun options in the US. Somehow a 7 liter diesel dually truck is fine to daily drive, but a 50mpg 2.0 turbodiesel in a small passenger car is so restricted as to ban the category entirely.
The use of different fuel efficiency mandates for different vehicle classes is a real problem. If one-ton vehicles have a more stringent fuel economy mandate than 1.5-ton vehicles, this drives the market to make their vehicles heavier, which is exactly OPPOSITE to what you want. We've seen this in US regulations.
Likewise, if trucks have more lenient regulations than cars, this drives manufacturers to very carefully look at what the definition of a truck is, and make sure their vehicles are classed as truck