Apple Loses Bid To Dismiss US Smartphone Monopoly Case (reuters.com)
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- News link: https://apple.slashdot.org/story/25/06/30/204242/apple-loses-bid-to-dismiss-us-smartphone-monopoly-case
- Source link: https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/apple-loses-bid-dismiss-us-smartphone-monopoly-case-2025-06-30/
> U.S. District Judge Julien Neals in Newark, New Jersey, [2]denied Apple's motion to dismiss the lawsuit accusing the company of using restrictions on third-party app and device developers to keep users from switching to competitors and unlawfully dominate the market.
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> The decision would allow the case to go forward in what could be a years-long fight for Apple against enforcers' attempt to lower what they say are barriers to competition with Apple's iPhone.
[1] https://apple.slashdot.org/story/24/03/22/1924206/doj-blames-apple-for-failure-of-amazon-fire-phone-windows-phone-and-htc
[2] https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/apple-loses-bid-dismiss-us-smartphone-monopoly-case-2025-06-30/
Heh. This will hold as much water as Titanic did. (Score:2)
This will hold as much water as Titanic did. Android makers are whining when they already own the biggest slice of the pie?
'pal carajo con esa mierda.
Wrong Monopoly (Score:3)
If you even read the summary you would realize this isn't about their market dominance. This is about them having a walled garden for an app store.
Apple absolutely has a monopoly on app stores for iOS. Europe has already started breaking that down but United States has not.
The accusation is that Apple has used their Monopoly of app stores and app loading illegally.
One of the reasons we can't get any decent antitrust law enforcement in this damn country is that unless you have something that is s
Re: (Score:2)
You don't need to be a monopoly to have (illegal) anticompetitive behavior. Here is the first paragraph of the lawsuit, I think even you can understand it:
> In 2010, a top Apple executive emailed Apple’s then-CEO about an ad for the new Kindle e-reader. The ad began with a woman who was using her iPhone to buy and read books on the Kindle app. She then switches to an Android smartphone and continues to read her books using the same Kindle app. The executive wrote to Jobs: one “message that can’t be missed is that it is easy to switch from iPhone to Android. Not fun to watch.” Jobs was clear in his response: Apple would “force” developers to use its payment system to lock in both developers and users on its platform. Over many years, Apple has repeatedly responded to competitive threats like this one by making it harder or more expensive for its users and developers to leave than by making it more attractive for them to stay. This case is about freeing smartphone markets from Apple’s anticompetitive and exclusionary conduct and restoring competition
[1]https://www.justice.gov/archiv... [justice.gov]
[1] https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/media/1344546/dl?inline
just allow side loading like mac os and alot of is (Score:2)
just allow side loading like mac os and alot of issues go away.
Apple/Google have power even with side loading (Score:2)
> just allow side loading like mac os and alot of issues go away.
Not really. If you aren't on the App Store your sales will take a hit. The big scary warning about unknown software harming your phone works, even on Android (see 2016 election workers for example). Not being on Google Play will also hit you in the wallet. Apple and Google still have influence. The US vs Microsoft case was more about influence, pressure, not so much market share.
Did Apple offer amicus brief during US v Microsoft (Score:2)
Did Apple file an amicus brief during US vs Microsoft (2001), claiming harm from a market leader? That would be fun to re-read now.
Yes Microsoft (Score:2)
So when Microsoft continually abused their monopolistic control of 90% of the PC market, they were let off the hook. But Apple which doesn't even have a majority of the smart phone market, is now a monopoly. This is more butt hurt users who would never even buy an iPhone complaining that it is a closed market. BUY A FUCKING ANDROID. You are not missing any functionality when you do that. As a matter of fact, you get the fiddly control you demand. Stop trying to force iPhone users play in the same play
Yeah, uh huh (Score:1)
It could not be possible that so few people switch because they would rather take a red hot poker to the eye than use Android. No, that couldn't possibly be the reason.
Re: (Score:2)
Just because it's a judge doesn't mean they understand basic math.
Android is dominant globally, not in the USA (Score:3)
> Android is the dominant phone platform in the US.
Android is dominant globally, not in the USA. Around 59% Apple, 41% Android\. Globally Apple is around 27% and Android 72%.