BlueSky Isn't Dying - and There's a Larger Ecosystem Growing Around Its Open Protocol (techcrunch.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/06/21/046247/bluesky-isnt-dying---and-theres-a-larger-ecosystem-growing-around-its-open-protocol
- Source link: https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/12/bluesky-backlash-misses-the-point/
But instead of calling BlueSky's traffic "level", [2]right-leaning libertarian Megan McArdle [3]argues instead that BlueSky's "decline shows no sign of leveling out" (comparing the stable figures from the last month to a one-time spike seven months ago so they can write "It's now down about 50 percent"). And Wednesday the conservative UK magazine Spectator also [4]ignored the 30-day-leveling to write instead that BlueSky is somehow "sliding down a slope".
But TechCrunch thinks the "up or down" conversation [5]is entirely missing the point of "the wider network of apps built on the open protocol that Bluesky's team spearheaded" — and how BlueSky "is only meant to be one example of what's possible within the wider AT Proto ecosystem."
> If you don't like the tone of the topics trending on Bluesky, you can switch to other apps, change your default feeds, or even build your own social platform using the technology. Already, people are using the protocol that powers Bluesky to build social experiences for specific groups — like Blacksky is doing for the Black online community or like Gander Social is doing for social media users in Canada. There are also feed builders like [6]Graze and those in [7]Surf that let you create custom feeds where you can focus on specific content you care about — like video games or baseball — and exclude others, like politics. Built into Bluesky (and other third-party clients) are tools that let you pick your default feed and add others that interest you from a range of topics. If you want to follow a feed devoted to your [8]favorite TV show or [9]animal , for instance, you can. In other words, Bluesky is meant to be what you make it, and its content can be consumed in whatever format you prefer best.
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> In addition to Bluesky itself, the [10]wider network of apps built on the AT Protocol includes photo- and video-sharing apps, livestreaming tools, communication apps, blogging apps, music apps, movie and TV recommendation apps, and more. Other tools also let you combine feeds from Bluesky with other social networks. [11]Openvibe , for instance, can mix together feeds from social networks like Threads, Bluesky, Mastodon, and Nostr. Apps like [12]Surf and [13]Tapestry offer ways to track posts on open social platforms as well as those published with other open protocols like RSS. This lets the apps pull in content from blogs, news sites, YouTube, and podcasts.
Even just considering BlueSky itself, three weeks ago [14] Fast Company pointed out that BlueSky "grew from 11 million users to 25 million between late October and mid-December, but has added only about 10 million more since then." So how is a 10-million user increase "dying"?
> For a social network, being prematurely written off is a rite of passage. It's even a compliment of sorts — a sign that people are paying attention and care... When I chatted with Bluesky CEO Jay Graber this week, I wasn't surprised that she didn't seem fazed by the debate on her platform and saw the parallels with early-days Twitter. "Reports of our death are greatly exaggerated," she told me. "It's a similar thing, because with social sites, it's not straight up all the time. [Growth] comes in waves, and at each stage, there's a new era of communities being established and formed. We're still seeing a lot of community formation, and one of the most exciting things is how structurally different this is. It's not just another social site that has to be a singular winner-take-all in an ecosystem with existing incumbents...."
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> One other challenge that Bluesky has not yet fully confronted is monetizing itself. Onstage at Web Summit, Graber emphasized that it's working on subscription services, a healthier revenue source than stuffing feeds with ads, though potentially a tougher one to scale up to sustainability. The company [15]announced a $15 million Series A funding round last October.
But again, the point isn't BlueSky's increasing user count or its stablizing levels of Daily Unique "Likers" — but its underlying open source protocol:
> [S]he was at her most passionate when discussing the company's aspiration to decentralize social networking via its open [16]AT Protocol . It powers Bluesky — and variants such as the [17]Pinksky photo-sharing app , which she praised onstage — but could also provide the infrastructure for further-flung social experiences. Maybe even ones catering to folks who have zero interest in participating in the Bluesky community. "The goal is to really get through that this is a Choose Your Own Adventure and Bluesky's just the beginning," she says. "The sky's the limit." Whether she'll fulfill her grandest ambitions, I'm not sure. But I already like this era of social networking better than the one when a handful of winners really did take all.
[1] https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_McArdle#Views
[3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/08/blue-sky-twitter-liberals/
[4] https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/bluesky-is-dying/
[5] https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/12/bluesky-backlash-misses-the-point/
[6] https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/16/bluesky-feed-builder-graze-raises-1m-rolls-out-ads/
[7] https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/22/open-social-web-browser-surf-makes-it-easier-for-anyone-to-build-custom-feeds/
[8] https://bsky.app/profile/kalibali87.bsky.social/feed/severance
[9] https://bsky.app/profile/jenniwren.bsky.social/feed/bunnies
[10] https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/04/beyond-bluesky-these-are-the-apps-building-social-experiences-on-the-at-protocol/
[11] https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/28/automattic-and-others-back-openvibe-an-app-thats-unifying-the-open-social-web/
[12] https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/18/flipboard-launches-surf-a-new-app-for-browsing-the-open-social-web/
[13] https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/04/a-review-of-tapestry-an-app-powered-by-the-growing-open-web/
[14] https://www.fastcompany.com/91342316/bluesky-jay-graber-web-summit-vancouver
[15] https://techcrunch.com/2024/10/24/bluesky-raises-15m-series-a-plans-to-launch-subscriptions/
[16] https://atproto.com/
[17] http://pinksky.app/
BlueSky is for radicals (Score:1)
> "To that end, I found Justice [Clarence] Thomas's concurrence on medical care for transgender youth quite illuminating," Vance wrote, including a screenshot of the conservative justice's statement agreeing with the 6-3 ruling.
Posting this got JD [1]banned from Bluesky [nypost.com]. After something like that, you can't pretend that it wants any conservative or moderate posters.
[1] https://nypost.com/2025/06/18/us-news/jd-vance-gets-suspended-from-x-competitor-bluesky-just-12-minutes-after-first-post/
Re:BlueSky is for radicals (Score:5, Insightful)
His account is active, [1]https://bsky.app/profile/jd-va... [bsky.app] and he also a verification check.
In your own article Bluesky, however, claimed Vance’s account was suspended over concerns that it was run by an impersonator of the vice president, not because of his post.
Which I mean, come on, if you got a new handle called @jd-vance-1.bsky.social and they didn't do the Bluesky verify process before and are just using the default domain (which before the check system it involved proving you own your domain name) it seems fair to err on the side of caution, especially as the account is getting attention.
[1] https://bsky.app/profile/jd-vance-1.bsky.social
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If it didn't make the news how would they know the account was real and not an impersonator if they didn't verify it beforehand?
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They could have a) attempted to contact him b) check his twitter where he posted about his plans to create Bluesky account. ZERO effort was spent to verify prior to ban, because this ban was about what he posted (questioning trans orthodoxy). The only reason they unbanned is because this went viral and resulted in tons of bad publicity, any regular user would still be banned.
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Do you actually have any evidence of that?
We Didn't Need Another Other Protocol (Score:2)
The AT protocol is interesting from a technical perspective - but largely does what ActivityPub was already doing. ActivityPub already has huge applications with milllions of users (see Mastodon, GoToSocial, PixelFed, Spectra/Video etc). Join the Fediverse. It's cooler than Bluesky both literally and figuratively. IMHO obviously...
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Yep. ActivityPub it is.
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I keep hearing people say this, and I did join Mastodon years ago - but it's like a wasteland. Almost no one I'm interested in posts there.
Bluesky, on the other hand, seems to be attracting a variety of people.
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The ATProto people address this in their FAQ, mainly about account portability and scaling, seems like standard open-source disagreements.
[1]https://atproto.com/guides/faq... [atproto.com]
[1] https://atproto.com/guides/faq#why-not-use-activitypub
Clever Protocol, Unworkable Management (Score:2)
There's an interesting twist where the protocol is interesting and clever, the client can be configured/recompiled to use a different server, but the company developing it is also doing Ministry of Truth style moderation.
So the interest from the independent open source community is low because they don't expect a good working relationship with the company.
And it may not be mature enough to fork yet.
While other solutions are 'good enough' for most.
IIRC Bluesky protocol can federate just fine but the company
I know people who use Twitter (Score:1)
And I've been told that if you leave the default feed that's curated for you, typically because it's crashed which it seems to do a lot, then when forced into the main Twitter verse it's basically neo-Nazi central. The best example of a Nazi bar phenomenon. Only instead of inviting one Nazi in the whole nine yards got given the red carpet treatment by the new owners.
On the other hand if you just stay in your curated feed it's not impossible to keep most of the Nazi shit out of your feed. It'll still cre
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> Heck. /. used to have a good libertarian minority and today it's nerds defending their trans kids here.
Wow, people defending their kids. How despicable.
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Your comment is a brilliant example of [1]Mark Cuban's criticism [fortune.com] of Bluesky: "agree with me or you are a nazi fascist." Bluesky has [2]always been [substack.com] an who chamber, but it's gotten [3]progressively more toxic [newsweek.com] in tone as its user base scaled up.
[1] https://fortune.com/2025/06/12/bluesky-backfiring-mark-cuban-lack-of-diversity-of-thought-x-users/
[2] https://open.substack.com/pub/danieldrezner/p/is-bluesky-an-echo-chamber
[3] https://www.newsweek.com/conservatives-join-bluesky-face-abuse-censorship-1988883