FAA To Eliminate Floppy Disks Used In Air Traffic Control Systems (tomshardware.com)
(Monday June 09, 2025 @11:30PM (BeauHD)
from the end-of-an-era dept.)
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- News link: https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/25/06/09/2249232/faa-to-eliminate-floppy-disks-used-in-air-traffic-control-systems
- Source link: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/the-faa-seeks-to-eliminate-floppy-disk-usage-in-air-traffic-control-systems
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Tom's Hardware:
> The head of the Federal Aviation Administration just outlined an ambitious goal to upgrade the U.S.'s air traffic control (ATC) system and bring it into the 21st century. According to [1]NPR , most ATC towers and other facilities today feel like they're stuck in the 20th century, with controllers [2]using paper strips and floppy disks to transfer data , while their computers run Windows 95. While this likely saved them from the disastrous CrowdStrike outage that had a massive global impact, their age is a major risk to the nation's critical infrastructure, with the FAA itself saying that the current state of its hardware is unsustainable.
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> "The whole idea is to replace the system. No more floppy disks or paper strips," acting FAA administrator Chris Rocheleau told the House Appropriations Committee last Wednesday. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy also said earlier this week," This is the most important infrastructure project that we've had in this country for decades. Everyone agrees -- this is non-partisan. Everyone knows we have to do it." The aviation industry put up a coalition pushing for ATC modernization called [3]Modern Skies , and it even ran an ad telling us that ATC is still using floppy disks and several older technologies to keep our skies safe. [...]
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> Currently, the White House hasn't said what this update will cost. The FAA has already put out a Request For Information to gather data from companies willing to take on the challenge of upgrading the entire system. It also announced several 'Industry Days' so companies can pitch their tech and ideas to the Transportation Department. Duffy said that the Transportation Department aims to complete the project within four years. However, industry experts say this timeline is unrealistic. No matter how long it takes, it's high time that the FAA upgrades the U.S.'s ATC system today after decades of neglect.
[1] https://www.npr.org/2025/06/06/nx-s1-5424682/air-traffic-control-overhaul
[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/the-faa-seeks-to-eliminate-floppy-disk-usage-in-air-traffic-control-systems
[3] https://modernskies.com/
> The head of the Federal Aviation Administration just outlined an ambitious goal to upgrade the U.S.'s air traffic control (ATC) system and bring it into the 21st century. According to [1]NPR , most ATC towers and other facilities today feel like they're stuck in the 20th century, with controllers [2]using paper strips and floppy disks to transfer data , while their computers run Windows 95. While this likely saved them from the disastrous CrowdStrike outage that had a massive global impact, their age is a major risk to the nation's critical infrastructure, with the FAA itself saying that the current state of its hardware is unsustainable.
>
> "The whole idea is to replace the system. No more floppy disks or paper strips," acting FAA administrator Chris Rocheleau told the House Appropriations Committee last Wednesday. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy also said earlier this week," This is the most important infrastructure project that we've had in this country for decades. Everyone agrees -- this is non-partisan. Everyone knows we have to do it." The aviation industry put up a coalition pushing for ATC modernization called [3]Modern Skies , and it even ran an ad telling us that ATC is still using floppy disks and several older technologies to keep our skies safe. [...]
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> Currently, the White House hasn't said what this update will cost. The FAA has already put out a Request For Information to gather data from companies willing to take on the challenge of upgrading the entire system. It also announced several 'Industry Days' so companies can pitch their tech and ideas to the Transportation Department. Duffy said that the Transportation Department aims to complete the project within four years. However, industry experts say this timeline is unrealistic. No matter how long it takes, it's high time that the FAA upgrades the U.S.'s ATC system today after decades of neglect.
[1] https://www.npr.org/2025/06/06/nx-s1-5424682/air-traffic-control-overhaul
[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/the-faa-seeks-to-eliminate-floppy-disk-usage-in-air-traffic-control-systems
[3] https://modernskies.com/
3rd party vendors? they better have NO DRM, NO KEY (Score:2)
by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 )
3rd party vendors? they better have NO DRM, NO KEY servers. So they can't pull an broadcom and change the EULA holding the system hostage.
The DOGE bitches will vibe it in hours (Score:2)
by TheMiddleRoad ( 1153113 )
Just load up the full power of Grok, and that shit's done.
Re: The DOGE bitches will vibe it in hours (Score:2)
by LindleyF ( 9395567 )
That's a really, really terrible idea. They'll probably do it.
Always online (Score:1)
by SumDog ( 466607 )
Melbourne was still using 286 machines for their train systems in 2012. The trouble with this shit is the train literally moves a million people every fucking day from early in the morning to late at night. It's incredibly difficult to upgrade such a massive system while it's running. With train signaling, you fuck up and someone could die. And those systems need to run every day, even on holidays.
Paper strips (Score:2)
Is he referring to punch card systems?
Re: Paper strips (Score:1)
Probably Ticker Tape.
Re: (Score:2)
He's referring to the flight progress strips that list flight number, aircraft type, departure, and destination. The entire US ATC system looks like it came out of the 1970s because, well, it kind of did.
Re: (Score:2)
No, they are strips of paper in plastic holders that the air traffic controllers use to sequence and track aircraft for take offs and landings.
Here is a quick video about Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport that shows the paper tapes, equipment, and routines of the air traffic controllers.
[1]What It Takes To Be An Air Traffic Controller At The World's Busiest Airport [youtube.com]
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ-cDwQupj8