China's 7-Year Tech Independence Push Yields Major Gains in AI, Robotics and Semiconductors (msn.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/05/22/1850252/chinas-7-year-tech-independence-push-yields-major-gains-in-ai-robotics-and-semiconductors
- Source link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/the-fortress-that-china-built-for-its-battle-with-america/ar-AA1FeJF2
Chinese robot manufacturers captured nearly half of their domestic market by 2023, up from a quarter of installations just years earlier, while AI startups now rival OpenAI and Google in capabilities. The progress extends to semiconductors, where Huawei released a high-end smartphone powered by what industry analysts believe was a locally-produced advanced processor, despite U.S. export controls targeting China's chip access.
Morgan Stanley projects China's self-sufficiency in graphics processing units will jump from 11% in 2021 to 82% by 2027. Chinese companies have been purchasing as many industrial robots as the rest of the world combined, enabling highly automated factories that can operate in darkness. In space technology, Chinese firms won five of 11 gold medals when U.S. think tanks ranked the world's best commercial satellite systems last year, compared to four for American companies.
[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/the-fortress-that-china-built-for-its-battle-with-america/ar-AA1FeJF2
2020 - today (Score:2)
I'm sure the average Slashdotter doesn't remember, but in 2020 I was saying the sanctions would backfire by clearing out competition in domestic Chinese markets. Well, here we are. While the US was busy staring in the rearview mirror, China was closer than they appeared and sped past. Clearly, the only solution is more sanctions, tariffs and cutting research funding!
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When you're ahead in a foot race but #2 is catching up, it's tempting to stop and try to fight #2. However, the correct answer is to run faster.
How much of that investment was printed money? (Score:1)
When China runs a fiscal deficit, who buys their bonds to make it up, or do they simply just print the money without the predicted inflationary consequences?
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Doesn't really matter if the generated economic growth is more than the inflation, that's really the key to deficit spending, what are you spending it on and when?
The pathetic thing is the reasons... (Score:2)
This is not really China being strong. This is China acting mostly reasonable and this is the West being weak, lazy and spending time and energy on unimportant stuff, chasing hypes and some people getting filthy rich to the detriment of all others.
Now that the "American Century" is clearly at its end, I seriously hope we will not be getting a "Chinese Century" as a replacement.
oh, how Hubris has consequences. (Score:1)
when arrogance makes you think you can strong all other countries, so they develop their own solutions.... and here we are....
a humble foreign policy would have yielded better results than being the bully on drugs in the playground.
Color me surprised. (Score:2)
The idea that the United States could economically freeze out a country that contains like a fifth of the world's population, plus 80% of its manufacturing capacity, was pretty fanciful to begin with.
The capitalists will sell us the rope ... (Score:2)
Following the words of Lenin:
The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.
China (Score:5, Interesting)
There are a lot of very smart technologists in China. They've done some amazing things. But I don't understand the obsession that young people in America have about talking up a country that's run by a regime that's a one-party system and a leader who won't step down, and where they're literally using slave labor on some ethnic minorities. And they're also building up a military to invade their neighbor (Taiwan). I realize they claim that territory as theirs, but it's de-facto a separate country. Why all the pro-China stuff? Is it just that it's a communist party that runs it, and Gen Z hates capitalism?
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I do not disagree that the US has a so called two-party system which really is a one-party system. The system is very deeply flawed.
It is not very hard to find sources pointing to modern day slavery in China: [1]https://www.walkfree.org/globa... [walkfree.org] It also is very clear that the US is using prison labor in ways that are reminiscent of slave labor: [2]https://www.walkfree.org/globa... [walkfree.org]
I had a hard time finding a definitive answer as to how high the approval rating of China's leader is. Do note that most sources
[1] https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studies/china/
[2] https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/country-studies/united-states/
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You might not realize it, but we also have a one-party system in the US and a horrific history of human rights. For example, slave labor didn't end in the US, we just call it prison labor. This isn't what-about-ism, but pointing out that the US should worry about their own problems before pointing out China's problems. Much of your information is also just flat out propaganda and a distortion of reality.
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We can all stand to point out problems in two places.
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1. Have you looked what is happening in the US at the moment?
2. Underestimating an opponent is a grave mistake.
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For most I imagine if you pressed them on it they wouldn't like all those negative things but they see things like this it does strike a chord. The stats like China has laid more rail in the past 30 years than most nations put down in history is impressive and China does show that type of internal investment all around. If you're born in the last 20-30 years in America that type of thing seems in the past. We have been told and have history to show the USA can do big things so why aren't we as much?
We're
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> The stats like China has laid more rail in the past 30 years than most nations put down in history is impressive and China does show that type of internal investment all around. If you're born in the last 20-30 years in America that type of thing seems in the past. We have been told and have history to show the USA can do big things so why aren't we as much?
Railroads are a mature technology. China laying down lots of rail lines is mainly a combination of starting with an undeveloped nation with the need for new rail lines and an authoritarian government that doesn't have to consider property rights or environmental issues and which has lots of money fueled by exports. None of these factors are true in the US.
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> There are a lot of very smart technologists in China.
I was told the model is "Design in the US, manufacture in China." The US will have all the tasty intellectual work and China would to the dirty work of manufacturing. So everything is fine. No need to worry about outsourcing: you're just a Sinophobe.
I never believed it, because I'm not a fucking idiot. But everyone else did. Except Andrew Grove, who explained all of this to us decades ago.
> Why all the pro-China stuff? Is it just that it's a communist party that runs it, and Gen Z hates capitalism?
Yes. US hating pinkos abound, and they always have. Back when Russia was the great rival to the US, Russia coul
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"Yes. US hating pinkos abound"
Funny how every thread about china has milquetoast liberals sounding like your fox news-watching grandpa circa 2004. Surely it is just because they hate America... yes, they hate us for our freedoms.. keep telling yourself that.
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China is simultaneously a threat to us due to how much they've advanced, but also in the middle of a collapse and their government made up all the numbers.
In reality, this has nothing to do with China at all. Replace China with another country and you'll get the same. China is whatever the people in charge want them to be in order to push their current agenda.
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It's not really the same this time around, though. We can enviously see the Chinese zipping around in their neat little BYD cars that we're not allowed to have. Whereas nobody in America is looking at Russia and thinking what we really need is, uh... internet troll farms? Rip-offs of Starbucks and McDonald's, because the real companies won't do business in their warmongering shithole country?
China is fascinating because we've been told that without freedom, the end result is Russia, North Korea, and som
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> It's not really the same this time around, though.
It was never an option to evacuate our industrial base to the Soviet Union. We were governed by people that understood what the Soviets were, and treated them as pariah. Back then the self-loathers couldn't overcome this, despite their control of higher-ed and the media. But by the 90's, with boomer-hippies like the Clintons calling the shots, China was just another "alternative" in a globalized world, and they didn't hesitate to pencil whip China's MFN status.
The pinkos won. Khrushchev was right.
En
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Way to cherry pick history. None of what you said was true as large of proportions as you seem to believe. I lived through it, so gaslight somewhere else, FOX comes to mind. They like your sort of bullshit.
Re: China (Score:2)
Acknowledging China's successes is realistic.
Pretending they don't have any is idiotic, jingoistic, and nationalistic, but I repeat myself.
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All you mention can be said of the US...