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Schrodinger's Economics (thetimes.com)

(Thursday April 03, 2025 @11:27AM (msmash) from the how-about-that dept.)


[1]databasecowgirl writes:

> Commenting in The Times on the absurdity of Meta's copyright infringement claims, Caitlin Moran [2]defines Schrodinger's economics : where a company is both [one of] the most valuable on the planet yet also too poor to pay for the materials it profits from.

>

> Ultimately "move fast and break things" means breaking other people's things. Or, possibly worse, going full 'The Talented Mr Ripley': slowly feeling so entitled to the things you are enamored of that you end up clubbing out the brains of your beloved in a boat.



[1] https://slashdot.org/~databasecowgirl

[2] https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/celebrity/article/tech-bros-studio-ghibli-ai-caitlin-moran-5tg7bxz59



Re: (Score:3)

by Nrrqshrr ( 1879148 )

And the other side of that same coin is that, considering the metric fucktons of data needed to train LLMs, the only people who can legally train their models are the ones who can afford to burn loads of money, barring any sort of competition.

That and, you can write all the laws you want, deepseek proved that people will just use the other side's model if it's better and, most importantly, free.

Really reaching with that Talented Mr. Ripley deal (Score:1)

by nightflameauto ( 6607976 )

I think the better analogy is someone so obsessed with masturbating that they completely forget to take care of basic essentials like eating, bathing, finding shelter in bad weather, and just sit there waiting for something to kill them with genitals in hand.

Re: (Score:2)

by OrangAsm ( 678078 )

*Holds up hand* (the other one)

Reading things is "Breaking" them ?! (Score:1)

by greytree ( 7124971 )

Reading things is not "Breaking" them.

Moran (sic) is very good at whining - check her columns - but logical argument is not her strong point.

Fair copyright that encouraged creativity - its purpose - was fucked by Disney. Copyright is now just a moneymaking scheme for the cartel.

Re: (Score:2)

by Zak3056 ( 69287 )

> Fair copyright that encouraged creativity - its purpose - was fucked by Disney.

Walt wasn't even born until 15 years after the Berne convention set a minimum term of 50 years. The Sonny Bono Act in the US came five years after the EU extended copyright to Life of the author + 70 years.

I'm not saying the Mouse isn't an enthusiastic supporter of extending copyright terms and didn't lobby for the Sonny Bono Act, but to place the blame for how fucked up modern copyright is solely at the feet of Disney is just not accurate.

The entire economy (Score:3)

by TheStatsMan ( 1763322 )

runs on rules for thee and not for me.

Zuck is a data thief (Score:2)

by abulafia ( 7826 )

It is simple. Just look at his public history. Dude has what amounts to a compulsion he's managed to make a lot of money off of. He believes if he can take it, it is his.

In a world where he grew up without privilege and never started FB, he'd be in jail for identity theft, or possibly peeping.

Re: (Score:1)

by Tablizer ( 95088 )

Zuck even looks like a peeping-tom.

Welcome to unregulated capitalism (Score:2)

by rsilvergun ( 571051 )

AKA kleptocracy.

My personal favorite example is schrödinger's career. If you go into the trades and you're not doing well you should have gone to college. If you go to college and you're not doing well you should have gone into the trades.

Whatever happens it's always your personal fault and there are never any larger systemic issues to consider.

Under absolutely no conditions are you to question the system. The system is sacrosanct.

How do the rich get rich? (Score:2)

by chiefcrash ( 1315009 )

Reminds me of a Firefly quote: "I got a rule, I never let go of money I don't have to..."

Spolier! (Score:2)

by kackle ( 910159 )

> Or, possibly worse, going full 'The Talented Mr Ripley': slowly feeling so entitled to the things you are enamored of that you end up clubbing out the brains of your beloved in a boat.

Aww, I hadn't seen that one yet.

A large spider in an old house built a beautiful web in which to catch flies.
Every time a fly landed on the web and was entangled in it the spider devoured
him, so that when another fly came along he would think the web was a safe and
quiet place in which to rest. One day a fairly intelligent fly buzzed around
above the web so long without lighting that the spider appeared and said,
"Come on down." But the fly was too clever for him and said, "I never light
where I don't see other flies and I don't see any other flies in your house."
So he flew away until he came to a place where there were a great many other
flies. He was about to settle down among them when a bee buzzed up and said,
"Hold it, stupid, that's flypaper. All those flies are trapped." "Don't be
silly," said the fly, "they're dancing." So he settled down and became stuck
to the flypaper with all the other flies.

Moral: There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else.
-- James Thurber, "The Fairly Intelligent Fly"