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Madison Square Garden Bans Fan After Surveillance System IDs Him as Critic of Its CEO (theverge.com)

(Friday March 28, 2025 @11:30PM (BeauHD) from the world-we-live-in dept.)


An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge:

> A concert on Monday night at New York's Radio City Music Hall was a special occasion for Frank Miller: his parents' wedding anniversary. He didn't end up seeing the show -- and before he could even get past security, he was informed that he was in fact [1]banned for life from the venue and all other properties owned by Madison Square Garden (MSG). After scanning his ticket and promptly being pulled aside by security, Miller was told by staff that he was barred from the MSG properties for an incident at the Garden in 2021. But Miller says he hasn't been to the venue in nearly two decades.

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> "They hand me a piece of paper letting me know that I've been added to a ban list," Miller says. "There's a trespass notice if I ever show up on any MSG property ever again," which includes venues like Radio City, the Beacon Theatre, the Sphere, and the Chicago Theatre. He was baffled at first. Then it dawned on him: this was probably about a T-shirt he designed years ago. MSG Entertainment won't say what happened with Miller or how he was picked out of the crowd, but he suspects he was identified via controversial facial recognition systems that the company deploys at its venues.

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> In 2017, 1990s New York Knicks star Charles Oakley was forcibly removed from his seat near Knicks owner and Madison Square Garden CEO James Dolan. The high-profile incident later spiraled into an [2]ongoing legal battle . For Miller, Oakley was an "integral" part of the '90s Knicks, he says. With his background in graphic design, he made [3]a shirt in the style of the old team logo that read, "Ban Dolan" -- a reference to the infamous scuffle. A few years later, in 2021, a friend of Miller's wore a Ban Dolan shirt to a Knicks game and was kicked out and banned from future events. That incident [4]spawned ESPN segments and [5]news articles and validated what many fans saw as a pettiness on Dolan and MSG's part for going after individual fans who criticized team ownership.

"Frank Miller Jr. made threats against an MSG executive on social media and produced and sold merchandise that was offensive in nature," Mikyl Cordova, executive vice president of communications and marketing for the company, said in an emailed statement. "His behavior was disrespectful and disruptive and in violation of our code of conduct."

Miller responded to the ban, saying: "I just found it comical, until I was told that my mom was crying [in the lobby]. I was like, 'Oh man, I ruined their anniversary with my shit talk on the internet. Memes are powerful, and so is the surveillance state. It's something that we all have to be aware of -- the panopticon. We're [being] surveilled at all times, and it's always framed as a safety thing, when rarely is that the case. It's more of a deterrent and a fear tactic to try to keep people in line."



[1] https://www.theverge.com/news/637228/madison-square-garden-james-dolan-facial-recognition-fan-ban

[2] https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40121460/oakley-stands-firm-nixing-invite-msg-gets-dolan-apology

[3] https://www.instagram.com/p/CMyU_jxrA4c/

[4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qgJdgcFAyQ

[5] https://nypost.com/2021/03/24/knicks-fan-kicked-out-of-madison-square-garden-over-ban-dolan-shirt/



Little Jimmy Dolan is a whiny bitch (Score:4, Funny)

by abulafia ( 7826 )

He banned all lawyers from a lawfirm, too, because someone in the firm was reping someone suing MSG.

Such a pathetically petty, thin-skinned little loser.

To Timmy's PR flack, who most likely will find this - how does it feel to spend your time on this stupid shit for a broken freak like Dolan? Is this really what you wanted to do with your life?

Re: (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

Never heard of him before. Now I have.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

What a first rate asshole.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Dolan

Re: (Score:2)

by GrahamJ ( 241784 )

yeah imagine having all that money and still caring so much what randos think of you.

What a petty, petulant child. I bet he and the orange idiot get along well.

US Constitution (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

Those who rail against Big Government should be aware that the more areas the Corps control, the fewer places those precious Amendments would apply.

There's no right to bear arms in Disneyland. Nor freedom of speech in Apple.

It ain't the quantity of Government that's the real problem. It's the quality.

Very petty (Score:2)

by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 )

But then pettiness is apparently the new rage in the former USA, from the president down to the airport security.

Y'all are easily offended and should probably lighten up a bit.

Welfare Queen James Dolan Hates Free Speech (Score:1)

by kittylu ( 705146 )

The ‘Ban Dolan’ incidents are not isolated. Dolan has extended and implemented bans to a broad number of people critical of him and his petty grievances.

Banned AFTER buying the ticket (Score:2)

by GrahamJ ( 241784 )

How nice of them to take his money before the banning rather than after. He should have refused to leave without a refund.

Re: (Score:2)

by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 )

well the CC change back will fuck ticket master with costs and they need to feel the burn.

Might as well get this out of the way. (Score:1)

by Coius ( 743781 )

Screw dolan. Hope he gets taken out by a "Fan" that gets banned. I'm going throw my hat into this, as I never would want to attend, nor have a ticket to anyone in his venues, so might as well get banned right now, since I don't go to concerts. Fuck Madison Square Garden CEO James. He deserves an early grave. Now with said, feel free to ban me. Giving you money would be my second worst mistake of my life (my first getting married to my first wife, Sarah. Fuck her too, including when she then took my last n

Re: (Score:2)

by DrMrLordX ( 559371 )

Careful with the death threats. People generally make those anonymously. In any case, people who dislike Dolan should start banning him from their places of business (if any).

File an CC change back on the full cost of the tic (Score:2)

by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 )

File an CC change back on the full cost of the ticket.

Two-year old tantrum X billionaire = trouble (Score:2)

by flug ( 589009 )

Two year old's baby tantrum gets blown up into a real-life thing because he happens to be a billionaire or whatever.

Honestly, this is the type of person who ought to be in jail rather allowed to run any kind of a business, let alone a large one.

At minimum, anything owned by this type of person should be ineligible for every type of government aid or cooperation, from TIF subsidies to liquor licenses.

And, [1]let's see here [bloomberg.com]:

> New York’s subsidies for Madison Square Garden, run by billionaire James Dolan, hav

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-11/ny-should-curb-subsidy-for-billionaire-owned-msg-report-says

So given that basically everything is owned (Score:2)

by rsilvergun ( 571051 )

By about four companies and those four companies are owned almost entirely by about a thousand people, 2,000 if you really stretch the definition, how long until anyone who speaks out against the upper caste is simply not allowed to have food and shelter and what have you?

It's one of the things I always find annoying about the sort of folk who brand themselves conservative or libertarian. They always seem okay with the boot on their neck as long as it's a private boot.

Entropy isn't what it used to be.