Ethically Sourced 'Spare' Human Bodies Could Revolutionize Medicine
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> Why do we hear about medical breakthroughs in mice, but rarely see them translate into cures for human disease? Why do so few drugs that enter clinical trials receive regulatory approval? And why is the waiting list for organ transplantation so long? These challenges stem in large part from a common root cause: a severe shortage of ethically sourced human bodies. It may be disturbing to characterize human bodies in such commodifying terms, but the unavoidable reality is that human biological materials are an essential commodity in medicine, and persistent shortages of these materials create a major bottleneck to progress.
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> This imbalance between supply and demand is the underlying cause of the organ shortage crisis, with more than 100,000 patients currently waiting for a solid organ transplant in the US alone. It also forces us to rely heavily on animals in medical research, a practice that can't replicate major aspects of human physiology and makes it necessary to inflict harm on sentient creatures. In addition, the safety and efficacy of any experimental drug must still be confirmed in clinical trials on living human bodies. These costly trials risk harm to patients, can take a decade or longer to complete, and make it through to approval [2]less than 15% of the time.
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> There might be a way to get out of this moral and scientific deadlock. Recent advances in biotechnology now provide a pathway to producing living human bodies without the neural components that allow us to think, be aware, or feel pain. Many will find this possibility disturbing, but if researchers and policymakers can find a way to pull these technologies together, we may one day be able to create "spare" bodies, both human and nonhuman. These could revolutionize medical research and drug development, greatly reducing the need for animal testing, rescuing many people from organ transplant lists, and allowing us to produce more effective drugs and treatments. All without crossing most people's ethical lines.
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> Although it may seem like science fiction, recent technological progress has pushed this concept into the realm of plausibility. Pluripotent stem cells, one of the earliest cell types to form during development, can give rise to every type of cell in the adult body. Recently, researchers have used these stem cells to create structures that [3]seem to mimic the early development of actual human embryos . At the same time, artificial uterus technology is rapidly advancing, and other pathways may be opening to allow for the development of fetuses outside of the body. Such technologies, together with established genetic techniques to inhibit brain development, make it possible to envision the creation of "bodyoids" -- a potentially unlimited source of human bodies, developed entirely outside of a human body from stem cells, that lack sentience or the ability to feel pain.
[1] https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/03/25/1113611/ethically-sourced-spare-human-bodies-could-revolutionize-medicine/
[2] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762311
[3] https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/jun/14/synthetic-human-embryos-created-in-groundbreaking-advance
How about (Score:1)
MAGAoids?
Re: How about (Score:2)
No ethical brain part to worry about.
Well, (Score:3)
unethically sourced 'spare' human bodies could revolutionize it too. And if the unethically sourced ones are cheaper and/or easier to obtain, then... (fill in what's missing).
What the fuck- (Score:2)
-are you fucking talking about man? Let's just make fully adult human clones, that should be easy, then cut out the brains and we're done. Like, seriously, what the actual hell are you talking about?
"Excuse me, old chap" (Score:2)
"That body under your head there, is it by any chance, um, spare?"
Not happening (Score:2)
To create these so called "bodvoids" you would need to create totipotent stem cells (not pluripotent) .. that's way too difficult to do in humans because to find out the right signals needed .. unlike for creating pluripotent cells .. it would involve messing with embryos to figure out and no scientist wants to risk jail even if it's a Nobel. What are you going to do sitting in jail with a Nobel prize? .. It won't make you bad-ass in jail.
Re: Not happening (Score:2)
You really think it isn't already being done? Those scientists are protected by the big corporations/government agencies, no jailtime. Or they just move to a country which didn't sign the treaty.
"Ethically sourced" (Score:2)
Yeah just like blood, hair, hormones etc. which are harvested from the poor & desperate and make companies billions. How long before a mysteriously large number of bodies show up from Calcutta or Laos all of who seem to have signed paperwork donating themselves to a megacorp?
Re: (Score:2)
Didn't RTFA. Or the summary.
Because we have such a track record (Score:2)
If anyone has read the news recently you'd know we as a species have a miserable track record regarding ethics and in particular psychopathy, narcissism and sadism are in control of our societies. The problem is with power ethics and their policing goes out the window. Also, it was not so long ago that Sweden was reviled for embryo research. This is about 10,000x worse. Once the cat is out of the bag every country and technologically advanced corporation will have ample opportunity to reinterpret this witho
Missed Chances (Score:2)
With life beginning at conception, you cannot have ethically grown bodyoids.
Or maybe not. I guess there would be a moral way to grow those from bad people or unworthy offspring. By transplanting them into a better person you might be saving a little part of their doomed soul.
Though none of that really matters because other countries have different morals and if one country goes after it then the others must as well. It's too useful to ignore. Both the pros and cons are too useful to not advance more in
I think I've read this Niven story before (Score:2)
This is giving me "A Gift From Earth" vibes.
Science fiction justifies its existence again (Score:2)
It's been talking about these ethical problems for many decades. We need to get the ethicists to read some of the stories to help them work at the issue.
How it went (Score:1)
Three guys, watching a Micheal Bay movie, totally stoned: "Yo! We should do that!"
"But.... ETHICALLY!"
The feeling that we live in one giant sarcastic reality gameshow is getting stronger by the minute....
Ah, another man-made horror beyond my comprehensio (Score:2)
I'm not surprised, obviously. Secular opinion on human dignity is obviously very much different than my take on it.
It's just... we've seen so many things go wrong in ludicrous ways. I accept that sci-fi isn't a given outcome but considering, again, all the things that went wrong in the past in ways nobody expected... One would think a teensy little bit of caution would be in order, even in those people that do not ascribe any humanity to a body without consciousness.
Nothing will go wrong here (Score:3)
This is going to go great.
Re: (Score:3)
Who cares about the medical industry, think about the sex doll industry...
Re: Nothing will go wrong here (Score:2)
"Oh, that tongue thing is amazing."
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> This is going to go great.
Yup. Win the lottery, go to [1]The Island [wikipedia.org] ...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Island_(2005_film)
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> Yup. Win the lottery, go to The Island ...
You beat me to it. That movie was the first thing to come to mind after reading the headline.