Italy Demands Google Poison Its Public DNS Under Strict Piracy Shield Law (arstechnica.com)
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- News link: https://yro.slashdot.org/story/25/03/23/0043217/italy-demands-google-poison-its-public-dns-under-strict-piracy-shield-law
- Source link: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/03/italian-court-orders-google-to-block-iptv-pirate-sites-at-dns-level/
"Italy's communication regulator praises the ruling and hopes to continue sticking it to international tech firms."
> Spotted [2]by TorrentFreak , AGCOM Commissioner Massimiliano Capitanio [3]took to LinkedIn to celebrate the ruling, as well as the existence of the Italian Piracy Shield. "The Judge confirmed the value of AGCOM's investigations, once again giving legitimacy to a system for the protection of copyright that is unique in the world," said Capitanio. Capitanio went on to complain that Google has routinely ignored AGCOM's listing of pirate sites, which are supposed to be blocked in 30 minutes or less under the law. He noted the violation was so clear-cut that the order was issued without giving Google a chance to respond, known as inaudita altera parte in Italian courts.
[1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/03/italian-court-orders-google-to-block-iptv-pirate-sites-at-dns-level/
[2] https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-google-to-poison-public-dns-to-prevent-iptv-piracy-250321/
[3] https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7308503541390741504/
And how hard do you think it's going to be (Score:2)
to figure out how to switch DNS servers. There are millions of DNS servers.
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> to figure out how to switch DNS servers. There are millions of DNS servers.
Also nothing but speed and politeness keeps you from querying the root name servers directly.
DNSSEC? (Score:2)
I'll admit I don't understand all the ins-and-outs of DNSSEC, but isn't it supposed to protect against exactly this sort of thing? It would completely remove the ability for a man-in-the-middle to provide bogus DNS results to a client that validates DNSSEC signatures.
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All DNSSEC provides is authenticity of the answer. Assuming the pirate DNS sites use DNSSEC, clients will know something is up. But what are said clients going to do about it? They can warn the user, but unless they can find an alternative DNS server to query they're still stuck not watching the game. Which is all the copyright holder cares about.
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yea cause there isn't 1000 other DNS servers they could use besides google. Kappa
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Most people don't even know where their files are stored on their computer (or not). Why do you think that most people will figure out how to change their DNS servers away from Google's?
In the real world, actions don't have to be 100% successful to achieve their intended effect. Nontechies operate in an 80/20 world.
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This order does not include suppressing Google search results on "how to change DNS servers."
As soon as they can force Google (Score:3)
To break the internet for fucking football They can do it for absolutely everything else. It's amazing how quickly fascism took over. Only this time I don't think there's going to be anyone to save us. America's rapidly falling the fascism. And all it took was a little bit of voter suppression to make it hard for casual voters and people with kids to vote.
Maybe Europe will pull back from it. There have been signs in both directions so it's hard to tell. But it's going to be rough when the United States is pushing fascism globally.
Re: As soon as they can force Google (Score:2)
That suppression stuff is such bullshit. Northampton county in Pa went red, pretty much a bellwether for the state. You lose Pa, you lose the election. No suppression required.
Re: As soon as they can force Google (Score:2)
And for the record, Iâ(TM)m not a silvergun hater, Im just sick of the suppression trope. Like Texas was ever going to go blue, if not for suppression. JFC. Want to never win again? Keep telling yourself it was suppression.
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"It's amazing how quickly fascism took over"
Well this is a story about Italy so there's that
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> And all it took was a little bit of voter suppression to make it hard for casual voters and people with kids to vote.
Are you still on about that. Last time you brought up voter suppression you linked to an article that referenced a US voting statistics sheet that said half a million registrations were culled between 2020 and 2022 because they hadn't voted in several years and never sent back the card mailed to them to keep them on the rolls. The article called every one of those culled registrations a suppressed vote. It's beyond stupid.
Who uses Google's DNS anyhow? (Score:2)
What about the billion other DNS servers on the internet?
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It's kind of stupid to target DNS when they could just have their domestic ISPs blackhole whatever IP the domain name points to, also ensuring that they only have to deal with local companies that are subject to their local laws, instead of foreign ones who probably aren't. Sure, it won't block VPN as a means of circumvention, but neither will DNS, and VPN has a higher barrier of entry than simply switching DNS servers. But you know these Europeans; not exactly a clever bunch.
This solution always makes me laugh. (Score:2)
Like you couldn't just use some other DNS. Even if you had to tunnel out to do so. These ignorant politicians will never take the the time to learn. Knowledge has always traditionally been the enemy of the politician.
And nothing of value was lost. (Score:3)
I don't get why would anyone watch football in the first place. It's an absolutely boring game where up to 22 players, 3 referees and 1 ball interact unpredictably for 90+ minutes and the result is always one of: Team A wins, Team B wins, it's a draw, or a natural disaster strikes and the game gets called off. Why would anyone ever want to waste 90+ minutes of their life watching this crappy swirling vortex of entropy in the first place? I'll never understand why there's so much hype around this silly sport. It's painfully boring and serves no other purpose than enabling advertising.
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Entertainment is subjective. Whatever it is you like to do, someone somewhere finds it boring and pointless.
Re: And nothing of value was lost. (Score:3)
WTF? Football is awesome. Go Birds. Oh, wait. You mean soccer. Yeah. That sucks.
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Football often has better diving than most Olympics