European Central Bank Chief Economist Warns of US Financial Dominance (bloomberg.com)
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- News link: https://slashdot.org/story/25/03/21/0658224/european-central-bank-chief-economist-warns-of-us-financial-dominance
- Source link: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-20/ecb-s-lane-backs-digital-euro-to-avoid-rising-stablecoin-risks
[2]alternative source
amid escalating geopolitical tensions. Lane specifically cited Europe's "current dependence on US payment-card providers Visa and Mastercard, as well as technology companies including PayPal, Apple and Google" as a vulnerability requiring urgent action.His comments come as President Donald Trump's administration promotes dollar-backed stablecoins worldwide as part of a broader cryptocurrency strategy, alarming European officials. ECB Governing Council member Francois Villeroy de Galhau recently cautioned that "the US risks bringing about the next financial emergency through its support of cryptocurrencies."
"The digital euro is not just about adapting to the digital age. It is about ensuring Europe controls its monetary and financial destiny," Lane told a conference in Ireland, noting that a digital currency would "limit the likelihood of foreign-currency stablecoins gaining a foothold" in Europe.
[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-03-20/ecb-s-lane-backs-digital-euro-to-avoid-rising-stablecoin-risks
[2] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/digital-euro-needed-counter-stablecoins-165343454.html
Good start (Score:3)
> "European Central Bank Chief Economist Warns of US Financial Dominance"
Ok, I can see it, that's a reasonable concern.
> " European Central Bank Chief Economist Philip Lane warned that Europe must develop a digital euro"
Wow, that is not the solution, I promise. What are you thinking??
Re:Good start (Score:4, Insightful)
" European Central Bank Chief Economist Philip Lane warned that Europe must develop a digital euro"
Wow, that is not the solution, I promise. What are you thinking??
Basically, they are questioning the fact that VISA/MC - American companies - get a cut every time any European buys groceries at his local store. In Finland, not *that* long ago, we had national debit cards that were completely internal to FI and used FI brokers. These days the debit card offering is Visa Debit. (Credit was always handled by VISA/MC/Diners/Amex/etc).
Chinese have their Alipay and similar systems, so might as well set up our own system. Of course there's a bunch of mobile payment apps - but I think even those are still backed up by a credit card company. I mean, when you set up Paypal/Venmo/whatever account, the most common setup is that they ask for credit card number. You can theoretically transfer funds using wire transfer instead, but, well, then you either have to do that for every transaction or if you do a larger at once, you lose the interest.
And frankly, credit cards are just so darn convenient and come with additional protections (e.g. if you have booked a travel and the airline/hotel goes bankrupt - you get your money back from CC organization).
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Spot on.
Sure it is not cricket that EU citizen are forced to bank using US credit cards.
But a digital currency is never a solution.
And why would be? I mean, the EU banking system works very well, I can transfer money to people and companies in other EU (especially euro) countries without problems or delays.
Similar works for many other developed nations, I have never had problems receiving my pay from the US, UK or Dubai and that's all without 'digital' currencies or credit cards.
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Yeah, we need a digital euro like we need another russian gas pipeline.
What we could do with is a European based version of Visa/Mastercard/Paypal - *that* makes some sense.
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A digital Euro makes sense. It is not a cryptocurrency, it's a real currency with a central bank and backed by governments. The digital part is just creating new ways to use Euros, that don't require going through the existing payment systems.
You can take a 10 Euro note and give it to someone else. You should be able to give someone 10 Euros digitally, without having to use a banking system. Of course you may want to use a banking system because they provide protections against fraud and extra consumer righ
And what about the DNS? (Score:2)
The DNS root servers are maintained by the IANA, which is part of ICANN; a nonprofit in the US. If the Trump regime decides to use that against the rest of the world, the root name servers will be set up somewhere else, but where? And who will follow and who won't? The Internet will be split up.
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> The DNS root servers are maintained by the IANA, which is part of ICANN; a nonprofit in the US. If the Trump regime decides to use that against the rest of the world, the root name servers will be set up somewhere else, but where? And who will follow and who won't? The Internet will be split up.
We will all need to install a PiHole*, and set up 4 DNSs, two in IANA and two in the alternative.
I do not live in the USoA or EU, and have already a PiHole. If an scenario like the one the OP envisions happens, a whole cottage industry of Mom&Pop companies will sell and install said PiHoles...
* Or other suitable internal DNS
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DNS was devised in a time when the Internet was more family than corporation or utility. As with many of the underlying foundations of the Internet, this relies on mutual trust, respect, shared goals, and intention to achieve goals for the common good.
John Postel must be weeping. Few will stand for the better, but many will argue and complain. Some will just do not-good things.
And the world is beginning to look to the path of Balkanizing the Internet because, thankfully, the Internet is important. And not a
EU wants to control over how you spend (Score:1)
Digital currency is a euphemism of per-transaction control over how citizens spend money. It is debanking on steroids - where EU bureaucrats will be inserting DNS-like ledger that has to be consulted for each payment to go through.
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... and prevent people who disagree with them from being able to spend. Social credit scores in 3... 2... 1...
Re: EU wants to control over how you spend (Score:2)
Source?
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[1]https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/20... [cnn.com]
[1] https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/20/americas/canada-trucker-protest-covid-sunday/index.html
Re: EU wants to control over how you spend (Score:2)
But Canada is not in the EU.
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Same globalist bullshit.
Re: EU wants to control over how you spend (Score:2)
There is nothing globalist about any of it.
Canada froze bank accounts of a few people who created a national emergency. This has literally nothing to do with removing global trade barriers to enable growth. You can argue about this being government overreach perhaps.
But it begs the question, why would anyone who is focused on eliminating trade barriers want to block consumers from spending money? It makes no sense.
Now ok, maybe Americans are more paranoid because of Americas desire to punish the poor for be
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Why is Trump so fond of it then? [1]https://coinmarketcap.com/curr... [coinmarketcap.com]
[1] https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/official-trump/
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I am not aware of Trump advocating for implementing digital USD. While this complex topic may be too hard to grasp for you, the key difference between existing EU monetary system and proposed digital currency is centralized per-transaction ledger. This will give bureaucrats power to both surgically and categorically block specific types of transactions. For example, preventing specific individuals from buying a type of product (e.g.,no alcohol purchases) or preventing everyone from donating to a cause (e.g.
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No it's not. It's supposed to be equivalent to cash.
[1]https://www.ecb.europa.eu/pres... [europa.eu]
Of course, that whole post could be just a big lie, but if the schema allows offline transactions then there bound to be some privacy built in. Of course it comes ultimately down to trust, but if it's technically possible to transactions offline - even daisy-chained ones - there's bound to be technical means for privacy protection too.
[1] https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/blog/date/2024/html/ecb.blog240613~47c255bdd4.en.html
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The key difference is that if you don't like how EU run, you can't start you own EU or buy it out and fire everyone.
Law of unintended consequences (Score:2)
Since Trump started his term by (at least appearing to) treat staunch allies as almost enemies, I have expected many unintended consequences. I am in a way looking forward to seeing them unfold over time (more entertaining than the media these days). I expect this to be the amongst the first of many.
Unsurprising. (Score:1)
A globalist banker coming up with another reason for doing what they wanted to do anyway? Shocking.
Uh, wasn't the Euro supposed to stop US dominance? (Score:3)
I mean, wasn't that the whole point of the Euro being rolled out around 1990, to allow Europe to dominate (or at least counter) US dominance in the financial markets, and unwind the effects of Bretton Woods?
And how is that going?
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"unwind the effects of Bretton Woods?"
Um, Bretton Woods died in 1976, which was only a ratification of what happened in 1971 when the US went off the gold standard.
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Yes, the end of Bretton Woods was a result of the Nixon shock in 1971 see [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock
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> I mean, wasn't that the whole point of the Euro being rolled out around 1990, to allow Europe to dominate (or at least counter) US dominance in the financial markets, and unwind the effects of Bretton Woods?
Not really, those were the sensationalist headlines. The main idea was to facilitate commerce in the Euro Zone (which is different from the European Union).
The countering of the USoA dominance was, at best, a tertiary objective. But the Information sources of the era ran with it, because it sold more newspapers.
Damage Trump is doing is permanent (Score:2)
America has said itself up to have a dominant currency. Fun fact the national debt is basically comprised of two things. What we are selves, AKA money supply, and what the rest of the world owes us
I say what they owe us because technically it's our debt but we leverage it to make the US dollar orders of magnitude stronger and then use that to get super cheap imports worth way way more than the interest we pay. It's a form of economic imperialism.
If you're driving a nice SUV that you park in a nice
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What exactly is the Democrat alternative? The Global Transgender Peso?
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You know what's interesting? Not once today had the thought of transgendered individuals entered my mind. Why do conservatives constantly think about people who make up 0.5% of the population?
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Ya know, there's also a curious correlation to how Grindr servers go down where Republicans have their conventions. Now, they say "correlation != causation," but the coincidence does seem a little suspect. S'pose they're connected, somehow? And what does it mean?
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Also #notADragQueen. There's an entire image board dedicated to cataloging all the right wing pedophiles who aren't drag queens.
The right wing did find a single drag queen that got caught doing something horrible. From 10 years ago. Now that I think about it from 15 years ago now. They beat that drum periodically. Meanwhile literally every week two or three pastors get caught diddling kids along with half a dozen conservative writers
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> Why do conservatives constantly think about people who make up 0.5% of the population?
Clearly a sick obsession about them.
They didn't not initially anyway (Score:2)
Initially conservatives were kind of pissed off that the right wing media engine kept going on and on and on about transgender girls (and it was always girls).
They were Republican town halls where the Republican voters would complain that the Republicans wouldn't shut up about it or do something to fix their lives and economy. This lasted for several years.
But after 10 years of TV telling them that they're supposed to be scared of transgendered girls well, these people cannot do anything the TV doesn
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The English pound sterling was the dominant reserve banking currency for centuries.
We lost that status because something more reliable came along.
Guess how easily the US dollar could lose being the dominant reserve banking currency with this nonsense, when the second-oldest central bank in the world couldn't hold onto that status for a country after hundreds of years of holdin git.
This wasn't a problem (Score:2)
until the orange emperor ascended.
A CBDC is the solution? (Score:2)
That's like cutting off your leg to fix an ingrown toenail. To my EU friends, don't go down this path. Don't let this fear mongering on your own side trick you into accepting this non-solution. CBDCs give the banks and the governments control over everything. Develop your own credit/debit systems if you must, but never fully centralized digital currency.
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Cryptocurrency massively centralizes the information about all transactions.
This is broadly true about all current workable digital currencies. Every cryptocurrency system needs a public ledger to limit how much fraud happens, but bad actors will use the log of transactions against people.
US consumer banks are incompetent (Score:2)
I've lived and worked in the USA many times over the last 30 years. I've written software for credit bureaus, bank security and the SWIFT network. The USA has the most incompetent banking system in the world. They aren't corrupt but they are mind bogglingly dumb and they honestly are getting worse. Opening accounts, getting approved for credit and moving money now takes longer than it did 25 years ago. Transactions that are instant in third world countries still take multiple days in the US. Documenta
20 years (Score:4, Insightful)
20 years we've been telling this to our dear European leaders. 20 years and they have not done anything except putting redtape roadblocks in our way of developing these alternatives. And why? to appease the globalization and the Americans forcing us to be "their market", crushing our competition and sneaking their managers into European companies then shutting them down.
So screw you Europe, and screw you America. You fucked an entire generation and now you come home crying?
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Ya, let's gamble the future of the U.S.'s reserve currency on the crypto-markets. 'tis nothing but yet another gamble by el Bunko. And his track record on gambling, if you don't count outright fraud, is terrible. Want to guess how this will turn out?
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Running a casino into the ground should disqualify him from having an opinion on crypto.