More Than 150 'Unprecedented' Climate Disasters Struck World in 2024, Says UN (theguardian.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/03/19/1022245/more-than-150-unprecedented-climate-disasters-struck-world-in-2024-says-un
- Source link: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/mar/19/unprecedented-climate-disasters-extreme-weather-un-report
> The WMO's report on 2024, the [2]hottest year on record , sets out a trail of destruction from extreme weather that took lives, demolished buildings and ravaged vital crops. More than 800,000 people were displaced and made homeless, the highest yearly number since records began in 2008.
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> The report lists 151 unprecedented extreme weather events in 2024, meaning they were worse than any ever recorded in the region. Heatwaves in Japan left hundreds of thousands of people struck down by heatstroke. Soaring temperatures during heatwaves peaked at 49.9C at Carnarvon in Western Australia, 49.7C in the city of Tabas in Iran, and 48.5C in a nationwide heatwave in Mali.
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> Record rains in Italy led to floods, landslides and electricity blackouts; torrents destroyed thousands of homes in Senegal; and flash floods in Pakistan and Brazil caused major crop losses.
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> Storms were also supercharged by global heating in 2024, with an unprecedented six typhoons in under a month hitting the Philippines. Hurricane Helene was the strongest ever recorded to strike the Big Bend region of Florida in the US, while Vietnam was hit by Super Typhoon Yagi, affecting 3.6 million people. Many more unprecedented events will have passed unrecorded.
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/mar/19/unprecedented-climate-disasters-extreme-weather-un-report
[2] https://news.slashdot.org/story/24/11/11/1450240/2024-on-track-to-be-hottest-year-on-record-as-warming-temporarily-hits-15c
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Who is profiting? I want names.
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> Who is profiting? I want names.
You really think you're going to get a coherent answer to that? At best, you will just get some idiot yelling about Hunter Biden's laptop.
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> Who is profiting? I want names.
Start with the Fortune 100. End with your own gross insurance costs.
You act as if it’s hard to find the Disease of Greed. You are part of the race infected by it.
(Humans aren’t even smart enough to avoid repeating the worst of our own history, so no. No one’s looking for a cure.)
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[1]Here you go [yahoo.com], specific names and their salaries.
[1] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/rich-big-oil-executives-180008555.html
Re: And each one was very profitable (Score:2)
Debris cleanup. Man, I wish I owned one of those companies. Insane cash to be made.
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Sure the ten warmest years on record has literally been "the last ten years" for ten years how, but hey, don't worry, I'm sure it's just some warm weather right? Sure we get new heat wave records on a constant basis while new cold records are scarce as hen's teeth, but hey, no climate change!
Learn the difference between what you wish to be and what is.
Not unprecedented (Score:4, Informative)
All but 15 of the 152 are "heat wave". I picked one of the heat waves at random... Japan..
"The seasonal anomaly of the average temperature over Japan was +1.76ÂC in summer (June - August), tied with 2023 as the warmest for the season since 1898. It was +1.97ÂC in autumn (September - November), setting the warmest for the season since 1898. "
So actual Summer heat is tied with 2023... already not unprecedented. Autumn temps count as a "heat wave" not because of scorching unbearable heat but because the average during Fall time is higher than the average since records began for Fall time. This does not comport to common public understanding of what heat wave means.
There is enough actual credible evidence of global warming / climate change. There is no need to pile on... all this does is piss away your credibility and integrity and by extension the credibility of the overall cause for nothing.
Every disaster a climate disaster (Score:2)
We need more climate disasters!
Re:Every disaster a climate disaster (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes, we do. We should see the peaches of Georgia shrivel on the limb from excessive heat and no rain, the wheat fields of Kansas and Nebraska shrivel and die in a dust bowl, the shrimp farmers in Louisiana come up empty, and the corn fields of Illinois have stubs so we can spend more taxpayer money propping up farmers for an issue we've been told about but keep claiming doesn't exist.
This is the literal example of an admin telling the higher ups about a security issue, but which is ignored, until the security issue becomes a breach, at which point the higher ups will look around and ask why no one told them while they're spending five times the amount to mitigate the issue compared to them having addressed the issue.
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There is an obvious solution, and that is to produce less, and stop the constant economic growth for the sake of economic growth. But every side of the political spectrum won't accept that. Just look at cry's of doom and gloom when the stock market goes down, and that's just rich people thinking that the economy might get worse. The problem is we want a solution without loosing anything, well that's probably not going to happen until its forced upon us.
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You're making 2 cruel and avoidable errors: 1. supposing that all production is a unified hivemind must be tied to profits when much of farming exists because of massive socialist subsidies and 2. supposing that production of essential goods like food can be decreased without causing massive suffering. Also, it's "losing" not "loosing [sic]".
Re: Every disaster a climate disaster (Score:3)
The quest for constant economic growth does seem to be a borderline religion amongst economists these days without explaining why constantly buying ever more crap that eventually ends up in landfill is the only economic model that should be followed.
Re: Every disaster a climate disaster (Score:3)
> This is the literal example of an admin telling the higher ups about a security issue, but which is ignored, until the security issue becomes a breach, at which point the higher ups will look around and ask why no one told them while they're spending five times the amount to mitigate the issue compared to them having addressed the issue.
I get your analogy, but I think there are many instances with climate change that are more akin to having your network compromised and causing more problems to others than to yourself.
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Massive famines and billions of people migrating will be a thing within 20 years. And world wars as Russia and/or China take advantage of it.
Burgers and Beer (Score:2)
Meanwhile here in Alberta they are predicting that increased warmth and humidty from global warming will [1]increase barley yields [ualberta.ca] and so help the beef industry so at least we'll still have burgers and beer.
[1] https://www.ualberta.ca/en/science/news/2017/november/barley-crops-climate-change.html
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The danger is in the disasters being too gradually incrementally worse than suddenly massive disasters. When hypercanes are a thing in 2100, it will be too late because much of the Earth will be unlivable apart from N Canada and Siberia. It's also pretty certain that an Ice Age is in motion as the AMOC is shutting down.
I know it's in fashion to downplay it all. (Score:5, Insightful)
I know it's fun to downplay each weather event as unimportant and not at all related to climate, but I live in an area where 50-60 mph wind gusts were a rare, maybe twice a year brief occurrence, and where it's now a bi-weekly event. Storms are more powerful and more frequent. How many of these events does it take for the "there is no climate change" folks to realize, uh, weather trends that continue to change year over year for decades on end actually does sorta lead us to conclude that there is actually climate change? If it were isolated to only us, and nowhere else was seeing any of these changes, I'd probably feel differently about it, but I don't think shoving our fingers in our ears and screaming it's not real is doing us a lot of good.
Do I think some people have turned climate change into profitable industry to a sickening degree? Yes, absolutely, and they should be called out for it. But I also think it's something very real that we should address. Just because we have a scam based economy right now doesn't mean that every scammer isn't started with a kernel of truth to build their scam. Ever great scam starts with a kernel of reality, then spins the web of lies on top of it.
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How about:
"Do I think some people have turned climate change denial into profitable industry to a sickening degree?"
Hell, Mr. "Drill Baby Drill" Trump got elected President of the USA on a platform including climate denial.
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> How about: "Do I think some people have turned climate change denial into profitable industry to a sickening degree?" Hell, Mr. "Drill Baby Drill" Trump got elected President of the USA on a platform including climate denial.
Is this meant as some sort of dig against my point? There are for-profit industrialists using climate change for profit. There's also an alarming amount of climate change denialism. Those two things are both true.
One thing we can say about American society? It's scams built on denialism all the way down.
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That's absurdly fatalistic and unrealistic. It's not all of American society as some sort of unified hivemind death cult, but a large fraction of billionaires, some of whom happen to be American, and an ecosystem of hanger-ons whom also benefit from the status quo and the many morons who have their consent manufactured to go along with it against their own interests.
Re:I know it's in fashion to downplay it all. (Score:4, Interesting)
I fled an intense drought and Camp Fire in California in 2018.
Then I made snow angels in Austin fucking Texas in 2021 when it was 14 F.
Climate shit is really broken because of jetstream stability damage due to a massive amount of increased net absorbed energy in the Arctic Sea region due to temperature rise. Anyone denying reality now and not making it a priority is either a moron or profiteering from it.
weather records (Score:2)
So can you point me to the weather records (ideally max windspeed each day ) for the last few decades for your area. That really seems quite an incredible (literally) change, and would be well worth studying. or let me guess, crickets.
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> So can you point me to the weather records (ideally max windspeed each day ) for the last few decades for your area. That really seems quite an incredible (literally) change, and would be well worth studying. or let me guess, crickets.
Having lived it, I don't have records off-hand. You can poke around the national weather service for Sioux Falls or South Dakota, where you can literally scroll through individual days, or individual years, and get "average wind speeds," but I'm honestly having trouble finding recorded "highest gust speeds by year" or anything resembling it. I'll do more poking around and see if I can come up with some satisfactory reply for your attempted "gotcthya, liar" response to my lived experience.
So What? (Score:5, Insightful)
These reports are all pretty pointless. We know global warming is happening and the consequences are catastrophic. The question is what are we doing about it.
The answer is research for clickbait to feed the narrative about the disastrous consequences. There is already too much emissions in the atmosphere. We have spent the last ten or twenty years talking about the problem while putting increasingly more emissions into the atmosphere each year. We need to reduce the emissions in the atmosphere and progress is considered slowing the rate at which we annually increase the amount of new emissions.
In short, we aren't going to do anything other than talk about the problem and create intellectually interesting solutions that don't even begin to address the problem. A candle started the house on fire, so we are talking about buying a candle snuffer.
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As long as money is involved, there will be debate until the last two humans are drowning on what to do about this.
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Yep. This is where leadership must override political, economic, and social factions to meet the challenge of a long-term existential crisis that cannot be fixed quickly or simply.
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Don't worry, November 5, 2024 came up with a fix...
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Does that "fix" involve something to the effect of "May as well enjoy the party, we won't be around to clean up after it."?
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Right!
And outright denial.
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> Don't worry, November 5, 2024 came up with a fix...
Since January 20, 2025, I have seen nothing but breakage. What fix are you expecting?
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Most people forgot about it or pretend it's not happening and rationalize "drill baby drill" when the consequences don't affect them, or cause unnecessary drama to distract from the real problems like this.
Republicans Have Climate Delusions (Score:2)
It appears that to grow up in an expansive wilderness--makes it unfathomable to to realize just how big the world's cities are.
Look at the photomap of Silicon Valley. It's gray from roads and buildings: [1]https://maps.app.goo.gl/qFctJs... [app.goo.gl]
[1] https://maps.app.goo.gl/qFctJsuRFPj3nxTh7
More misleading politics from The Guardian (Score:2, Insightful)
"unprecedented" in this context (climate related stuff) is largely meaningless and even more mushy than the usual claim of "record breaking". When they say "record breaking" what they're really saying is "humans have not written such a thing down within the past 300 years [out of the past 6 billion years]." which is a statistically meaningless claim. Humans have only had a planetary view of weather/climate since we started flying weather satellites (less than 70 years, and those early ones only provided gra
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Climate denial in 2025 is absurd. A hurricane up in North Carolina and Virginia isn't political when there are still families living in tents and no government help to be found, state or federal.
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> Certainly no tree ring or ice core has a calibrated accuracy of tenths or hundredths of a degree.
Haven't you seen how straight a hockey stick is? :-)
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If measurement inaccuracies occur randomly, you can still generate highly accurate results of aggregate parameters in a system, such as averages. What you need is lots of data. Generally, the error in such a derived value is S / sqrt(N) where S is the error in the individual measurements, and N is the number of measurements. So, the more data you have, the lower the standard error of the derived quantity. That is how climate scientists can speak meaningfully about parameters in fractions of a degree.
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Anyone that tells you that they know the temperature anywhere to one tenth of a degree is lying to you. Let alone what the temperature in some place 150 years ago was to a tenth of a degree.
Think about how many samples you would need to have in order to even state what the temperature of any given -room- is to a tenth of a degree.
James Burke's 'After the Warming' came out in 1989 (Score:2)
and I watched it with great interest and an open mind, being a huge fan of James Burke. (See his "Connections" series to understand why.) Global warming was not talked about anywhere in the mainstream outside of scientists. The hand-wringing of the day concerned saving the rain forests from the evil Burger King that was chopping down rain forests in Costa Rica in order to create grazing lands for cattle. I made investments in 1993 that aligned with the Kyoto Accord, feeling that surely that the Clinton-Gore
Unprecedented? (Score:1)
They keep using that word, I don't think it means what they think it means.
Just remember records only go back about 150 years. The Earth is 4 billion years old.
Disasters of Biblical Proportions! (Score:5, Funny)
Real wrath of God type stuff: fire and brimstone coming down from the skies, and seas boiling, 40 years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes, the dead rising from the grave, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!
Sorry, couldn't resist ...
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I love that rant. A long time buddy of mine and I use the "...dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!" part of the line with each other still to this day.