Is America Closer to Ending Daylight Saving Time? (msn.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/03/09/0359219/is-america-closer-to-ending-daylight-saving-time
- Source link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-blinks-on-ending-daylight-saving-time/ar-AA1AvXbx
But it's still proving to be politically difficult...
> Polls have shown that most Americans oppose the time shifts but disagree on what should replace them... [U.S. political leaders] also say they are grappling with whether the nation should permanently move the clocks forward one hour, an idea championed by lawmakers on the coasts who say it would allow for more sunshine during the winter, or remain on year-round standard time, which is favored by neurologists who say it aligns with our circadian rhythms. That decision would rest with Congress, not the president. The split often reflects regional, not political, differences, based on where time zones fall; a year-round "spring forward" would mean winter sunrises that could creep past 9 a.m. in cities such as Indianapolis and Detroit, prompting many local lawmakers to oppose the idea...
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> [A [3]2022 Senate vote to make Daylight Saving Time permanent] awoke a new lobbying effort from advocates such as the American Academy of Sleep Medicine, which warned that year-round daylight saving time would be unhealthy, citing risks such as higher rates of obesity or metabolic dysfunction. Some researchers warned of a condition dubbed " [4]social jetlag ," saying that internal body clocks and rhythms would be persistently misaligned if human clocks were permanently set forward an hour. The concerted resistance from the health groups — which some congressional aides jokingly referred to as " [5]Big Sleep " — helped kill the measure in the House and has contributed to a stalemate over how to proceed...
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> Today, roughly two-thirds of Americans want to end the clock changes, polls [6]show . But even those Americans don't agree on what should come next. An October 2023 [7]YouGov poll found that 33 percent of respondents wanted year-round daylight saving time, 23 percent wanted permanent standard time, and 9 percent had no preference. The remainder weren't sure or preferred to remain on the current system... The political fight is far from over, with Trump allies such as Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Alabama) pledging to keep pushing for year-round daylight saving time. Some congressional Republicans also have privately called for a hearing in front of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, with hopes of advancing the Sunshine Protection Act.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/12/13/daylight-saving-time-trump/
[2] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-blinks-on-ending-daylight-saving-time/ar-AA1AvXbx
[3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/03/15/senate-daylight-saving-permanent/
[4] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8707256/
[5] https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/11/04/permanent-daylight-saving-time/
[6] https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/etwjvohrxx/Daylight_Saving_Time_Toplines_Crosstabs.pdf
[7] https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/tabs_Daylight_Savings_Time_20231027.pdf
Maximise useful sunlight hours (Score:2)
In summer, I prefer sunlight at 8pm when I can enjoy it rather than at 4am when I am asleep. In winter, I prefer to commute and have my children to go to school in sunlight rather than darkness. The inconvenience argument is also dubious and diminishing every year, because most devices update automatically. I suspect everyone in favour lives at low latitudes, or doesn’t understand the basics on sunlight and seasons.
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I don't care which way it goes as long as it's ended. Some of us want it ended in one direction. Some of us want it ended in the other. That's not a reason not to end it. Splitting the difference by changing the clocks twice a year is objectively more harmful than either direction.
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I'd prefer permanent Daylight Saving Time, but given I'm close to retirement... I don't care that much.
FWIW I have a hard time believing that permanent DST is somehow worse than permanent standard time, regardless of what the American Academy of Sleep Medicine claims. Time zones are broad enough that it's simple to come up with counter-arguments for anything they state. But it's easy to believe that the back-and-forth has a deleterious impact on health (although again - I'm close to retirement, it's not goi
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Why can't we do it so the clock keeps getting set back only. I need that extra hour of sleep every year. We should ditch the "spring forward" BS though.
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"who say it would allow for more sunshine during the winter" - this always makes me laugh
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Your points are valid, but also very regional. As you, yourself, acknowledge. Let each state decide what works best for them. And if you go far enough north, daylight is shorter than the school day, so your kids will be travelling in the dark either to go to school, or else to come home. Again, a regional problem. The solution is to leave the decision up to the states. Why should the federal government impose a one-size-fits-all solution on the entire country?
Just to note: the problem you mention could eq
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Both parties love to push one-size-fits-all solutions on the states - it's only the topic that changes.
Re: Maximise useful sunlight hours (Score:1)
I live in a village and get up when I want to. Why use a watch?
Re: Republicans would prefer to put the clock back (Score:2)
My body, my time.
I think we should keep it (Score:2)
Because we all hate it, and that's the one thing that unifies us as a nation. If we got rid of it, there'd be nothing for us all to hate together.
MST [Mountain Standard Time] (Score:1)
Official in Arizona, has no DST.
Just use it, and share times with people in it.
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And, no it's not "Mars Standard Time" ;)
Won't anyone think of Spain? (Score:3)
Spain has been in the same timezone as Germany since General Franco set it that way to express his admiration of Adolf Hitler, although geography indicates they should be in the same zone as Portugal, Britain and Ireland. The Spanish have adapted by getting up an hour later than other countries in that zone, although I'll admit I don't know what they did before Franco.
Do northern States like Indiana, Michigan or Minnesota have the option of starting their schools an hour earlier in the cold and dark months? As an alternative, they could move one zone to the west.
Federalism (Score:3)
> Polls have shown that most Americans oppose the time shifts but disagree on what should replace them
What if the federal government just got out of the way? Leave the decision to the states.
Just like the Dept. of Education: The feds don't need to involve themselves in every detail of life.
hahahaha (Score:2)
> [U.S. political leaders] also say they are grappling with whether the nation should permanently move the clocks forward one hour, an idea championed by lawmakers on the coasts who say it would allow for more sunshine during the winter, or remain on year-round standard time, which is favored by neurologists who say it aligns with our circadian rhythms.
This administration? Listen to scientists about what's best for people? That's a good one!
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This administration's "scientists" are too busy re-studying settled science - such as [1]re-investigating whether vaccines cause autism [go.com].
They want to cut government, yet apparently also want to waste some portion of those fewer dollars.
[1] https://abcnews.go.com/Health/cdc-study-vaccines-autism-despite-studies-finding-link/story?id=119584363
regional? solution is obvious (Score:2)
It the opinions are regional, why not adjust time zones accordingly? NYC/LA would permanently shift to summer time; Indianapolis to standard time.
State matter (Score:1)
Why is the Fed bothered by local time?
Right after they (Score:3)
Embrace and change to the metric system!
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Especially metric time.
10 days per week.
10 hours per day.
100 minutes per hour.
That's going to sort things!
Re: Right after they (Score:1)
10 days per week, 100 days per month and 1000 days per year? That will save a lot of money on salaries and bonuses.
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Hate to burst your bubble (somebody should mark you funny) but [1]the United States embraced the metric system long ago. [nist.gov]
Of course, you guys might change that in the next 4 years:)
[1] https://www.nist.gov/blogs/taking-measure/busting-myths-about-metric-system