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Man Used ChatGPT To Plan Las Vegas Cybertruck Blast (thehill.com)

(Tuesday January 07, 2025 @10:30PM (BeauHD) from the first-such-instance dept.)


According to police, the man killed in the January 1st Las Vegas Cybertruck blast [1]used ChatGPT to plan the explosion . The Hill reports:

> In a [2]press conference , Tuesday, Las Vegas police released more details of the intentions of 37-year-old Matthew Livelsberger, who died of a gunshot wound prior to the car exploding. Las Vegas Sheriff Kevin McMahill said it was concerning that Livelsberger used ChatGPT, a popular artificial intelligence model created by OpenAI, to carry out the explosion. According to police, Livelsberger asked ChatGPT various questions, including where the largest gun stores in Denver were, information about the explosive targets Tannerite and pistols.

"We knew that AI was going to change the game at some point or another in really all of our lives and certainly, I think this is the first incidence that I'm aware of on U.S. soil where ChatGPT is utilized to help an individual build a particular device, to learn information all across the country as they're moving forward," McMahill said.

"And so, absolutely, it's a concerning moment for us," he continued.



[1] https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5072577-las-vegas-cybertruck-blast-chatgpt/

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnB6xVjxRmg



Yeah that tracks (Score:5, Funny)

by thegarbz ( 1787294 )

Explains why he died alone in the car causing only a stir and some bad press for Musk rather than doing anything with any meaningful impact.

Re: (Score:2)

by hey! ( 33014 )

Different truck related New Year's day terrorist incident. This one was just a soldier dealing with stress and head injuries showing signs of incoherence and paranoia whose personal life was falling apart.

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by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 )

Other than head injuries (as far as I know) - couldn't that statement could apply to either guy?

Re: (Score:2)

by hey! ( 33014 )

Sure. But people seem mystified that someone who had such a responsible job in the military could be that crazy. But it's not a mystery to me when someone who is occupationally exposed to head trauma starts acting in unexpected ways.

When I was in college I took a neuroscience course where we got to handle a number of different animal brains, including human ones. They were extremely delicate; when I noted this the professor said that the brains we'd been handling were preserved with formalin, which actu

Contained (Score:2)

by Kunedog ( 1033226 )

Yeah, as if this happening for real would be bad press for VW:

[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnL-7x4n4d8

Re: (Score:1)

by ichthus ( 72442 )

> ...bad press for Musk...

[1]Eh? [newsweek.com]

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-responds-tesla-cybertruck-explosion-2008428

Fear Mongering (Score:1)

by rickrickles ( 10431830 )

ChatGPT is just regurgitating what is already available online.

Re:ChatGPT just regurgitating [web] (Score:2)

by Tablizer ( 95088 )

Probably tapped into Clippy:

"It looks like you are planning an extravagant suicide. Would you like some help?..."

I didn't think it was a conspiracy before.... (Score:5, Insightful)

by cuda13579 ( 1060440 )

...but now it seems it's going to be used as an excuse for regulating and censoring AI.

I find it a bit hard to believe that a Special Forces operative had to resort to using ChatGPT to find a gun store, and make a shitty IED.

Re: (Score:2)

by ewibble ( 1655195 )

I bet he did, he probably asked related questions of ChatGPT, if it wasn't available he would have googled it instead. But if you can raise fear and panic about it you can sell advertising. The fact is if you really wanted to lookup the largest guns stores in Denver you could probably do it will the yellow pages years ago before the internet existed.

Re:I didn't think it was a conspiracy before.... (Score:4, Insightful)

by bjoast ( 1310293 )

Exactly, just listen to this:

> We knew that AI was going to change the game [...]

This is not an instance of changing the game. The information could have easily been obtained by classical means, but mentioning this would probably not have create quite as juicy a news story.

Or, you know, this is just click bait (Score:1)

by rsilvergun ( 571051 )

and he maybe used ChatGTP for what's basically google while drunk.

5 years ago we'd be reading the same articles only about his search history.

Who cares? (Score:2)

by anoncoward69 ( 6496862 )

And thousands of other criminals have used google to make their criminal plans

Re: (Score:2)

by anoncoward69 ( 6496862 )

But of course it will cause all the crotchity old congress critters who have no clue how tech works to pass some asinine regulations.

Re: (Score:2)

by sound+vision ( 884283 )

Too much tech money coming in for that to happen. They'll post about it on Twitter to keep their name visible, but don't expect any consequential action.

TERRORIST (Score:2, Insightful)

by bussdriver ( 620565 )

Same day 2 truck related terrorist events; 1 is called a terrorist quickly and the white guy still is not called a terrorist while his message reads a lot like a terrorist note.

Re:TERRORIST (Score:4, Insightful)

by alvinrod ( 889928 )

One of those men killed a lot of people to make his point and did so with intention. The other seemingly just wanted to die in a sensational way to bring attention to his message because he was mentally ill. The latter individual likely could have taken innocent bystanders with him if he wanted to, but thankfully chose not to. To conflate the two cases leaves out a lot of pertinent information or outright ignores it in order to reach a conclusion that isn't supported by the full set of evidence. If the ethnicities of the individuals were reversed do you also believe that the labels of which was a terrorist act would be similarly flipped?

Blame it on the Chinese (Score:3)

by kyoko21 ( 198413 )

I'm sure someone will blame it on the Chinese for inventing gun powder and Prometheus sharing fire with man.

Re: (Score:1)

by Tablizer ( 95088 )

> I'm sure someone will blame it on the Chinese for inventing gun powder

Don't give the Tinted One ideas.

Something ain't exactly clear (Score:3)

by AlanObject ( 3603453 )

This guy was no basement dweeb military otaku. He was the real deal green beret army with deployments. Although he wasn't an explosives specialist he certainly must have substantial training on how to blow stuff up. Was he not paying attention or was his brain so fried he didn't remember any of it?

Nobody with that background should be trying to do terrorist-grade damage with a bunch of fireworks and the miscellaneous junk he had in that bed. It didn't even all go off.

I don't think he actually had any intent. I think he just went full random.

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by anoncoward69 ( 6496862 )

It's all just some kind of distraction. Hell that video of the explosion that was released didn't even look real. Looked like some kind of AI generated BS you see all over social media.

Lots of stuff doesn't add up (Score:2)

by Okian Warrior ( 537106 )

> This guy was no basement dweeb military otaku. He was the real deal green beret army with deployments. Although he wasn't an explosives specialist he certainly must have substantial training on how to blow stuff up. Was he not paying attention or was his brain so fried he didn't remember any of it?

> Nobody with that background should be trying to do terrorist-grade damage with a bunch of fireworks and the miscellaneous junk he had in that bed. It didn't even all go off.

> I don't think he actually had any intent. I think he just went full random.

Lots of stuff about this event doesn't add up.

It's so inexplicable that I wonder if there was a mistaken identity somewhere, that maybe the driver wasn't Matthew Livelsberger.

According to police, the driver was identified by ID found on the body, and tattoos, with DNA evidence ongoing.

Does anyone know if the DNA evidence came back, and was this definitely Matthew Livelsberger?

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by haruchai ( 17472 )

"Does anyone know if the DNA evidence came back, and was this definitely Matthew Livelsberger?"

What if it's not him? Wouldn't that imply someone murdered the real Livelsberger to get his ID?

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by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

He was a crisis actor, along with the fleeing pedestrians. The cybertruck was prop designed in a joint effort between Rick Baker and Greg Nicotero. The actors were all paid in unmarked Jordanian dinars.

Re: (Score:2)

by hey! ( 33014 )

Apparently he experienced multiple concussions in Afghanistan. Traumatic brain injury can cause personality changes. Often this doesn't happen immediately, but develops over time, so somebody may seem "recovered" from a series of mild concussions but gradually develop paranoia and bizarre thinking patterns.

Re: (Score:1, Troll)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

Watching Fox News will do that to your brain.

Re: (Score:1)

by ichthus ( 72442 )

Actually correct. So, what news do YOU watch? Where do YOU get truth?

Re: (Score:1)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

Associated Press and BBC are the two big ones.

Re: Something ain't exactly clear (Score:1)

by ihavesaxwithcollies ( 10441708 )

What do YOU mean truth? Donald Trump rambles on for 3 minutes and dances for the next 35 minutes. Fox News says itâ(TM)s the most glorious, dignified presidential act since Abraham Lincolnâ(TM)s gettysburg address. They have compared his rambling word salad speeches to MLK jrâ(TM)s âoei have a dreamâ speech. What truth? If i wanted smoke blown up my ass, Id be at home with a pack of cigarettes and a short length of hose.

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by cuda13579 ( 1060440 )

> I don't think he actually had any intent. I think he just went full random.

Agree. If he really wanted to do damage, he could have plowed through the doors of the hotel...or picked some other location that would give more collateral damage.

I think he knew full well that gasoline would be more of a "fwoomp" than a "boom"...and there was no reason to toss in fireworks, other than for spectacle. They certainly weren't going to contribute much to the "explosion".

The relevant question: How did ChatGPT respond? (Score:2)

by Jeremi ( 14640 )

It's not too surprising that he used ChatGPT; people use ChatGPT for all kinds of things now, to greater or lesser effect.

What's relevant is how ChatGPT responded, as compared to how we would like a chatbot to respond in such a scenario.

According to the article, ChatGPT gave only publicly available information, and warned him against causing harm. Assuming that's accurate; is it sufficient? If not, is there something else ChatGPT should have done instead?

Re: (Score:2)

by anoncoward69 ( 6496862 )

NARCed on him

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by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

Probably as well as ChatGPT's other advice, like using glue to keep the cheese on your pizza. [1]https://www.bbc.com/news/artic... [bbc.com]

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd11gzejgz4o

No worries... (Score:3)

by dskoll ( 99328 )

... because law enforcement will soon be using ChatGPT to solve crimes. And ChatGPT takes its clients' confidentiality very seriously!

Cybertruck styling (Score:2)

by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 )

Looked at the after photos -- it's an improvement, a Cybertruck has never looked better. :-)

Is it available as a dealer option or only aftermarket?

Manifesto? (Score:2)

by oumuamua ( 6173784 )

Seems he did not post it publicly? That is a major flaw in plans if his goal was to draw attention to his grievances! This is all they've released:

> Police said the six-page “manifesto” recovered from Livelsberger’s phone outlines a litany of political, social and cultural grievances and shows a “constant evolution” of his plans. “He also says he has graphic encounters from his military experience that replay in his head over and over and that now he feels like he’s

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