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Unemployed Office Workers Are Having a Harder Time Finding New Jobs (msn.com)

(Monday January 06, 2025 @11:53AM (msmash) from the state-of-affairs dept.)


More than 1.6 million Americans have been [1]jobless for at least six months , up 50% since late 2022, despite the economy adding over two million jobs last year, Labor Department data shows.

The average job search now takes six months, primarily affecting high-paying sectors like tech, law, and media. While the 4.2% unemployment rate remains below pre-pandemic averages, job postings have dropped to one per unemployed worker from two in early 2022.

Software development, data science, and marketing roles are 20% below pre-pandemic levels, while healthcare and government sectors account for half of recent job creation. The number of Americans receiving unemployment benefits reached 1.8 million in late December, approaching post-pandemic highs, as wage growth declined to 4% from 6% during the early 2020s hiring peak.



[1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/unemployed-office-workers-are-having-a-harder-time-finding-new-jobs/ar-AA1x0Sbn



Re: (Score:3)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

Learn to work for minimum wage is more like it.

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by MikeDataLink ( 536925 )

> Learn to work for minimum wage is more like it.

We should be working as a civilization to increase the quality of life for everyone. Raising tides should lift all ships, not just the yachts. I'm not saying the lazy should ride for free, so don't even go there.

Re: Maybe these people... (Score:1)

by retchdog ( 1319261 )

What about the objective fact that people like Elon and Bezos are just better?

Even Taylor Swift is tens of thousands of times better than the average slashdotter, let alone the average person.

Information theory proves that social welfare is lossy compression of human excellence. Kill the poor and the weak instead!

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by gosso920 ( 6330142 )

Or return to the office.

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by joe_frisch ( 1366229 )

Its easy from the Slashdot point of view to see everything in terms of software development but a quick check only shows 4.4 million developers in the US as compared to 22 million medical industry workers and 13 million factory workers. Coding is fine for people whose interests and talents run that way, but there are lots of other options.

Re: (Score:3)

by Comboman ( 895500 )

> Carter made the same mistake that Biden did.

Carter didn't create stagflation or the oil crisis, just like Biden did not create the pandemic or Ukraine war. They both had to increase government spending to deal with the mess they inherited.

Re: Tax-and-spend has consequences (Score:2, Interesting)

by dpille ( 547949 )

Carter made the same mistake that Biden did.

Being elected following the presidency of a known crook?

Re: Tax-and-spend has consequences (Score:2)

by OrangeTide ( 124937 )

Some tariffs and deportations should fix that.

Re: (Score:2)

by snowshovelboy ( 242280 )

Hm, somebody should have said something when Trump stopped 1.6 trillion from getting taken out of circulation.

Maybe somebody should say something about him doing it again. Na, lets blame Carter instead.

Startups aren't starting up (Score:1)

by greytree ( 7124971 )

I think investment money has dried up, which means startups aren't starting and hiring, which, from my POV, means interesting developer jobs are harder to find.

Automation (Score:2)

by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

Everyone is gearing up for automation replacing most of the paper pusher jobs. Some have already been replaced, some are in the process of being replaced, with the only ones remaining being the ones directing the AI in how to do the job of ten paper pushers.

And notably this isn't US, this is global. You can see this in many European nations as well, though at a delay due to language barrier. For those not aware, generative AIs are contextual, and context is language-specific. Very visible in the only releva

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by Tablizer ( 95088 )

> Everyone is gearing up for automation replacing most of the paper pusher jobs.

True, but existing bots are still too stupid to make a notable dent. There are already tools to fill in forms semi-automatically, and they don't require AI.

Those that use AI often guess wrong in hard to spot way. Data that looks almost right is a lot harder to spot than data that is clearly garbage or missing.

Most repetitive form entry I see is "necessary" because the system was either designed poorly, needs an upgrade, or is

Correction [Re:Automation] (Score:1)

by Tablizer ( 95088 )

Re: "software that has too features"

Should be "...too many features".

How many new H1B visas per year? (Score:1)

by data oyster ( 10309165 )

a million? Why doesn't the US have laws like Europe, which protect citizens from eager foreigners, if qualified citizens are already available. I know the Musk argument: The H1Bs are brighter than those we already have. Really? Is the US educational system is that bad?

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by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

Last I checked from the X discussion, it was 85000 a year + exceptions. So nowhere near a million.

Re: (Score:1)

by data oyster ( 10309165 )

true The annual limit for new H-1B visas is 65,000, plus an additional 20,000 for foreign professionals with a master's degree or higher from a U.S. institution: Annual cap: The annual cap for H-1B visas is 65,000. Additional visas: An additional 20,000 visas are available for foreign professionals with a master's degree or higher from a U.S. institution. Exemptions: Some H-1B workers are exempt from the cap, including those who work at or are petitioned for by: An institution of higher education An affilia

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by Rinnon ( 1474161 )

A common sense approach to the word "exceptions" would mean less than the ordinary allowance... but I've learned not to trust common sense when it comes to these sorts of conversations; so, how many exceptions are there?

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by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

No one seems to know. At least not the autists who pulled all the government data they could find and counted.

Considering those are the kind of people who sit and count Russian armor left in bases from satellite images and try to classify it by model, type and condition, I would say that if they can't find and count it, it's going to be pretty arcane and esoteric. So it's probably the case of government legitimately not have a clue what its bureaucracy is actually doing. But it's still unlikely to be "a mil

they are willing to work 60-80 hours an week for l (Score:2)

by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 )

they are willing to work 60-80 hours an week for low pay also they don't have big student loans to pay off

Re: How many new H1B visas per year? (Score:2)

by OrangeTide ( 124937 )

Without H1B visa program, many of those jobs would not be filles, regardless of the salary offered. Our workforce is short on math, engineering, and sciences. We're a nation of hairdressers and telephone sanitiers.

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by DarkOx ( 621550 )

In theory the H1B system should give us a competitive advantage in that it ought to allow us to pluck highly specialized skills that were not expected to be needed in such quantities from abroad, and market forces should follow by driving workers to get training / educated in these areas going forward.

Basically it *should* be industrial poaching at the national scale, and as such isn't a bad idea. In practice everyone cheats. I would say we should keep the h1b system or something like it but ... there shoul

Hint (Score:3)

by PPH ( 736903 )

Begin search for a new job before quitting your last one. You won't look like someone who got fired for cause. You'll also appear as a valuable staff member worth negotiating terms for.

I thought about switching to car mechanic. (Score:2)

by Qbertino ( 265505 )

No joke.

I'm a senior websoftware dev with 25 years of experience and a pretty solid knowledge and experience in self-marketing and self-promotion. I've been running a professional buzzword-compliant blog for more than 2 decades and have a quite impressive resume and project track. Regularly maintained and individually adjusted for each application.

Last summer I started looking for a new job, while doing some full-time training on web and online related topics. I've never spent this long even clawing for fee

More H1B? (Score:2)

by Lavandera ( 7308312 )

Elon and Donald said more H1B visas are needed...

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