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Great Whales Can Live a Lot Longer Than We Thought - If We Leave Them Alone (theguardian.com)

(Thursday January 02, 2025 @05:20PM (msmash) from the leave-them-alone dept.)


Scientists have discovered that great whales can live well beyond previously estimated lifespans, according to [1]research published in Science Advances. The study found that southern right whales can [2]survive past 130 years , while their heavily hunted northern counterparts rarely live beyond 47 years.

The findings support earlier evidence from Arctic bowhead whales, which can reach 200 years old. Scientists determined whale ages by analyzing earplugs from specimens caught by Japanese whalers in the 1970s, revealing some fin and blue whales lived to at least 114 years.



[1] https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adq3086

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/jan/02/great-whales-longevity-lifespans-centuries-hunting-study-finds



Earplugs (Score:2)

by rossdee ( 243626 )

"Scientists determined whale ages by analyzing earplugs from specimens caught by Japanese whalers in the 1970s"

Back them they must have been wired earplugs, not wireless.

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by dgatwood ( 11270 )

> "Scientists determined whale ages by analyzing earplugs from specimens caught by Japanese whalers in the 1970s"

> Back them they must have been wired earplugs, not wireless.

Earplugs, not earbuds. The whales were probably sticking them in their ears because of all the racket from military sonar. :-D

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by smooth wombat ( 796938 )

The whales were probably sticking them in their ears because of all the racket from military sonar. :-D

Or boats/ships in general. Covid showed [1]whales were less stressed [abc.net.au] because of the reduced shipping. Fewer ships means less noise to overcome when communicating. Not to mention a lesser chance of being run over by a ship/boat.

[1] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-07-05/scientists-find-whales-were-happier-during-covid-pandemic/104055060

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by PPH ( 736903 )

> Or boats/ships in general.

This is true. Washington State has revised their laws recently to require greater separation between orcas and (private) boaters. Due to the stress that engine and hull noise case them. But stand on the car deck bow end of a Washington State ferry underway and it sounds like repeated slamming the hull with sledgehammers. Wondering how this affects the orcas and what the state aims to do about it, their response is along the lines of "We don't give a f---."

Typical socialist attitude toward private collectiv

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by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 )

I wonder if they buy them on Amazon, like everyone else?

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by Darinbob ( 1142669 )

Mostly they find the ear buds that have fallen off when the whales bicycle through central park.

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by Darinbob ( 1142669 )

Thing is, nobody likes whale meat in Japan. They just make it because they think it's their heritage to torture children with school lunches that have foul tasting canned whale meat.

Interesting (Score:2)

by backslashdot ( 95548 )

Oh great, their cells really must have interesting anti-cancer properties .. (as per Pete's paradox, though somewhat counteracted by their lower metabolic rate per kilogram). That means their immune system and/or their cells have very good anti-cancer properties. That's just the excuse Iceland, Norway, and Japan need. (Nevermind we can study it without killing them at all and certainly not en masse.)

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by backslashdot ( 95548 )

*Peto's paradox

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by Narcocide ( 102829 )

I honestly think it might have a lot to do with the average ambient temperature of their living environment. I've read that if you keep humans at 60 degrees it extends their lifespan, too.

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by DamnOregonian ( 963763 )

Unsure how true the low ambient temp thing is, but I know that low ambient temps greatly cripples the antioxidant defense systems of mammals not adapted to it (Mice, humans)

Tissue levels of destructive oxidation products skyrockets after longterm exposure to cold.

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by rossdee ( 243626 )

"I've read that if you keep humans at 60 degrees it extends their lifespan, too."

And how is the research on Cryonic Suspension going? (Is that 60 degrees Kelvin, or Rankine?)

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by rossdee ( 243626 )

The Wales obviously aren't immune from cancer - both Kate and Charlie have been hospitalised for treatment.

I for one (Score:3)

by fjo3 ( 1399739 )

Welcome our old whale overlords!

I put aside my copy of "BOWLING WORLD" and think about GUN CONTROL
legislation...