NATO Plans To Build Satellite Links As Backups To Undersea Cables (tomshardware.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/24/12/31/2227234/nato-plans-to-build-satellite-links-as-backups-to-undersea-cables
- Source link: https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/nato-plans-to-build-satellite-links-as-backups-to-undersea-cables-recent-cable-damage-incidents-shine-spotlight-on-project-heist
> Satellites are the primary backups to undersea cables, but their bandwidth is far behind physical connections. For example, Google's latest fiber-optic lines can hit 340 terabits per second. In contrast, the frequency used by most satellites -- 12 to 18GHz -- can only handle about 5 gigabits per second or about 0.0015% of the maximum throughput of Google's fiber connection.
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> Work is underway to upgrade satellites from radio transmissions to lasers, increasing the speed by about 40 times to 200 Gbps. Starlink already uses this technology to communicate between its satellites, while Amazon is also developing it for its own Project Kuiper. However, it still faces challenges, like poor visibility and targeting precision between the satellite and ground station.
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> Because this is a major NATO project, the alliance plans to open-source part of the process. Making it public would allow anyone interested to find holes and make many iterations. Gregory Falco, the NATO Country Director for HEIST, believes that this is the fastest way for the project to achieve its goals and help prevent any catastrophic loss of data transmission in case of deliberate attacks against these underwater infrastructures in international waters.
[1] https://natoheist.org/
[2] https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/nato-plans-to-build-satellite-links-as-backups-to-undersea-cables-recent-cable-damage-incidents-shine-spotlight-on-project-heist
Article 5 (Score:2)
Be strong NATO and invoke Article 5 is a country (ie Russia) damages any more infrastructure...Currently you are ignoring everything and all damage and hoping Pootini does not do anything else but he does so you ignore it again hoping Pootini does nothing more but he does.....
Re: Article 5 (Score:4, Insightful)
If we did that during the cold war, it would have been called world war III. The art is to do all actions under the radar. Regretfully, it is too easy to damage the west. While in Russia, there isn't that much to sabotage. Vlad is very aware of that.
Re: (Score:2)
Perhaps the West needs to go after Vlad himself...
Re: Article 5 (Score:2)
I propose we revamp celebrity death match. First one? Trump vs. Vlad. Musk Vs. Zuck is long overdue by the way.
Re: (Score:2)
> Be strong NATO and invoke Article 5
We're not gonna start WW3 over a cable.
A proportionate response is to do what Finland did last week: Seize and impound the ship caught dragging its anchor.
More money to Musk and Bezos? (Score:2)
Let me guess. SpaceX and Blue Origin are gonna get all the contracts.
oops (Score:2)
A Russian built weather satellite just spun out of control and "accidentally" crashed into the NATO satellite.
Re: oops (Score:2)
Jup... no Netflix today...
War: Forget about every oversea online service. (Score:3)
Because when the next war heats-up, you will be lucky if your text only e-mail manages to reach another continent.
All those undersea cables AND all those big communications satellites will be gone.
The mini satellites the likes of Starlink may survive longer due to their small size and numbers.
Hence, no more YT or other video site.
And say goodbye to your rented games a.k.a. Steam "purchases" if you have to replace/upgrade your PC.
Re: War: Forget about every oversea online service (Score:3)
No YouTube, no steam games, no oversea emails... the horror. The horror!
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That is how I grew up.
Sort of a tangent, but (Score:3)
> Known as HEIST (Hybrid Space-Submarine Architecture Ensuring Infosec of Telecommunications)
What's with these so-called acronyms where the letters don't actually line up the words? It's not the daily Scramble puzzle! It drives me nuts...
It's like when an imbecile from UW CSE came up with a project he insisted on calling "FRITTER" even though the closest he could do with the actual words was RFITTER.
Latency, not bandwidth, is the problem (Score:1)
Ignoring that "HEIST" suggests this post is 3 months too early...
The problem with satcom is latency more than bandwidth. Lasers and radio are different in that you can put more data into a laser datastream than you can a radio datastream... but if you're talking goesync orbit than it's the same latency. Too much for gaming, live video, audio, or anything other than web surfing and one-way downloads. Still, even TCP ACKs take a long time reducing usable data transfer rates. Sats won't fix any of that...
Re: (Score:2)
Indeed, about the only useful increase in measuring where the break is would be actual coordinates, as in if a ship is dragging its anchor, you might know the distance to each break, but not where the cables have been moved to.
That said, I don't think we need to worry about power. Underwater power lines are underwater power lines, and communications is communications. Most communications lines only carry power to help power the very equipment used to do things like boost the signals.
My biggest problem wit