China is Losing Interest in English
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/24/12/18/191234/china-is-losing-interest-in-english
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> In preparation for the summer Olympics in 2008, the authorities in Beijing, the host city and China's capital, launched a campaign to teach English to residents likely to come in contact with foreign visitors. Police, transit workers and hotel staff were among those targeted. One aim was to have 80% of taxi drivers achieve a basic level of competency. Today, though, any foreigner visiting Beijing will notice that rather few people are able to speak English well.
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> The 80% target proved a fantasy: most drivers still speak nothing but Chinese. Even the public-facing staff at the city's main international airport struggle to communicate with foreigners. Immigration officers often resort to computer-translation systems. For much of the 40 years since China began opening up to the world, "English fever" was a common catchphrase. People were eager to learn foreign languages, English most of all. Many hoped the skill would lead to jobs with international firms. Others wanted to do business with foreign companies. Some dreamed of moving abroad. But enthusiasm for learning English has waned in recent years. According to one ranking, by EF Education First, an international language-training firm, China ranks 91st among 116 countries and regions in terms of English proficiency. Just four years ago it ranked 38th out of 100.
[1] https://www.economist.com/china/2024/12/12/why-china-is-losing-interest-in-english
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LLMs still will not handle technical jargon very well. Given the bad Engrish I see all the time, I do not think LLMs nor Google translate are quite there yet. They are decent enough.
They stopped allowing online English tutoring... (Score:2)
About 3 years ago, they imposed a rule that would forbid English tutoring by foreign teachers online. They said that the expectations for kids getting into better schools were getting so difficult that it was causing families to not be able to afford having multiple kids. So, the government just made the blanket statement that forbid that tutoring, so they could say, "There! Now, education is cheaper! We fixed the problem!"
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It was illegal to have more than one kid in China up until a few years ago.
America (Score:2)
Judging from the pitiful grammar all over the Internet, in meatspace with signs, and the fact that every healthcare organization has to have a team of translators on contract, I'd say that Americans have lost interest in English.
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Came here to say something similar, along the lines of...
Even at 91st, China is still ahead of the US.
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Que?
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> ... oh right... promoting xenophobia.
I don't think the apparently increasing supply of Chinese xenophobes who are averse to learning English are reading Slashdot because - get this - it's primarily in English.
Conversely... (Score:2)
How many citizens of the United States or of Great Britain are proficient in Mandarin? How interested are they usually in learning the languages of other cultures?
Chinese and English are very far away in too many aspects, so it's a big effort for both groups to learn the other's language. Both cultures are mostly self-oriented, so the motivation is little anyway...
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"How many citizens of the United States or of Great Britain are proficient in Mandarin?"
I don't have any interest in Mandarin, but Clementine is an excellent music player.
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When has China had an international empire where it was said that, "The sun never sets on the Chinese Empire"? Never. Because of the British Empire, it is now the case that you can go to most of the world and you'll be able to find an English speaker. Since WWII, English has taken off even more predominantly with America being the global leader. That's 300 years of it.
why would they (Score:3)
as it appears their star is rising and the west is waning.
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Because as horrible a language English is to learn, it is a hell of a lot better as a lingua franca than most alternatives.
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Too soon to throw in the towel. The US is doing quite well. China and most of Europe are both looking down the barrel of demographic collapse.
Of course (Score:3)
I lost interest in the English a long time ago. No one is impressed by a London bus these days!