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Boeing Chief Must Have Engineering Background, Emirates Boss Says (ft.com)

(Tuesday March 26, 2024 @11:30PM (msmash) from the better-future dept.)


The chief of Emirates, one of Boeing's largest clients, has said the crisis-stricken US aircraft maker should ensure its new chief executive has [1]engineering experience to restore safety standards ( [2]non-paywalled link ) . From a report:

> A day after Boeing chief executive Dave Calhoun announced he [3]would step down , Sir Tim Clark also said he backed efforts by the US group's largest labour union to win a seat on the board. "To fix Boeing's issues the company needs a strong engineering lead as its head coupled to a governance model which prioritises safety and quality," Clark told the Financial Times on Tuesday.

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> "Some serious lateral thinking" was needed, the airline boss added. Boeing on Monday unveiled a wide-ranging reshuffle of its leadership in a bid to get to grips with an escalating reputational crisis after a 737 Max door panel blew off mid-flight in January. Calhoun, 66, is to leave at the end of the year, while board chair Larry Kellner said he would depart in May. Stan Deal, head of the commercial planes division since 2019, was immediately replaced by chief operating officer Stephanie Pope.



[1] https://www.ft.com/content/fcacc767-5f05-414e-bebc-61c737764e7b

[2] https://www.msn.com/en-ae/money/news/boeing-s-new-ceo-must-be-strong-engineering-lead-emirates-boss-says/ar-BB1kyeA1

[3] https://news.slashdot.org/story/24/03/25/1211230/boeing-ceo-many-other-top-execs-to-step-down-in-leadership-shakeup-at-embattled-plane-maker



Maybe (Score:5, Informative)

by backslashdot ( 95548 )

The most important attribute is that they must like airplanes. Not making money, not even boeing. They have to love airplanes, avaiation, seeing people transported safely. They have to really get a kick out of that more than they get a kick out of making immmediate money. That has to be their number 1 drive.

Re: Maybe (Score:1)

by Ambigwitty ( 10261124 )

Hear, hear!

Re:Maybe (Score:5, Interesting)

by mcmonkey ( 96054 )

This is the answer. Leadership doesn't need an engineering background, they need a manufacturing background. Boeing needs to be a company whose mission is to build airplanes for profit. Not a company whose mission is solely to generate profit.

Jack Welch and his cult are the worst thing that ever happened to the USA.

Re: (Score:2)

by Beeftopia ( 1846720 )

Finance majors focus on maximizing profit for the executives right now, regardless of any longer term damage to the company.

The company's long term health is not a concern.

The quality of the product is not a concern except as it aids in generating maximum profits now.

The company is merely a vehicle to generate maximum profit for its owners in the short term.

That is the attitude of many in leadership in corporate America.

Companies are allowed to exist in society because of the benefits they provide to the so

Re: (Score:2)

by cstacy ( 534252 )

> Finance majors focus on maximizing profit for the executives right now, regardless of any longer term damage to the company.

> The company's long term health is not a concern.

> The quality of the product is not a concern except as it aids in generating maximum profits now.

> The company is merely a vehicle to generate maximum profit for its owners in the short term.

> That is the attitude of many in leadership in corporate America.

> Companies are allowed to exist in society because of the benefits they provide to the society.

> Some companies are not allowed to exist (e.g. mafias) because of the costs they extract from society.

> This country had a paradigm-shift in finance around the year 2000. It was right after Glass-Steagall was repealed, after several years (coinciding with the tech bubble) of deregulation of the banking system. It was right around then the education bubble started expanding, the housing bubble started expanding, the medical-costs bubble started expanding. These things have not been addressed because the new paradigm is so lucrative for the financial sector and asset holders.

> These policies have been adopted globally. It will be interesting to see how they evolve in different societies.

Old Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times.

New Chinese saying: "Hey, we'll help!"

Re: (Score:2)

by bloodhawk ( 813939 )

yeah no. That is a nice to have attribute, like it or not that have to be able to run a successful business first and foremost combined with the engineering background to understand when shit is being fed up the line to them.

Re:Maybe (Score:5, Interesting)

by hey! ( 33014 )

No, you don't want someone who *romanticizes* aviation. You want a hard-nosed realist who can think critically and has got his priorities straight.

In a crisis of trust, what you need is a leader with *character*. You need someone who understands the responsibility of building a product that people trust, but which can kill them. You need someone who can speak with discretion while at the same time being scrupulously honest about things people have a right to know.

Above all, you need a realist who is going focus on things that make an actual difference rather than just managing perceptions and evading blame. Saying the right thing has never been Boeing's management's problem, they always said exactly what needed to be said. They just never did what needed to be done.

I think the need for a leader with outstanding character is why people would like to see an engineer in charge. People trust engineers, otherwise they'd never get in a car or a plane. But we're not all ideal engineers, are we? Look at the CEO of OceanGate; he was an aeronautical engineer, but you sure as hell wouldn't want someone like him in charge of Boeing. A lack of enthusiasm for his vehicle wasn't what caused it to implode; it was a lack of sober and critical thinking.

Re: (Score:2)

by dgatwood ( 11270 )

Basically, what I think you're saying is that you need a test engineer — someone who understands how things can go wrong and is cynical enough to assume that they will.

Re: Maybe (Score:2)

by boxless ( 35756 )

Iâ(TM)ve been reading this site since 2000 or so. This is the best comment I have ever read. Bravo.

As The Economist once said (Score:1)

by Anonymous Coward

Take the BS out of Business School.

Finally (Score:2)

by ddtmm ( 549094 )

Someone ringing in with real insight and influence. About time.

Turning the tide against MBAs without experience (Score:4)

by khchung ( 462899 )

Maybe this would be the beginning of the turning of the tide against MBAs without any frontline experience? One could hope.

Would you put any weight on a general who had never been to the frontline, never held a gun, never been on any operation? No, then why do so many business hire MBAs with no frontline experience in the industry into management? IT management who never written a line of code, etc. It is an insanity that should be stopped.

Re: Turning the tide against MBAs without experien (Score:2)

by fortfive ( 1582005 )

You misunderstand the board, executive, and institutional shareholder objectives. All of which are short to mid term financial objectives, and not always even gain. Tax laws are byzantine, and favor the very wealthy. For example, if you sell a stock with 12 months of purchase, you donâ(TM)t report earnings. Big losses can create even bigger gains in other ways. You can offload immense debt on one company, you can outsource the gains, all kinds of fun tricks. And these tricks are what mbaâ(TM)s kno

Re: (Score:3)

by luvirini ( 753157 )

That remonds me of a short chat i had with the CEO of a fairly large family owned company.

He said that they too like quarter to querter with plans and results, but with a "minor" difference: They talk about a quarter of a century..

Re: (Score:1)

by CrankyFool ( 680025 )

In the American military system, at least, I believe most generals will have started off not as grunts but as officers, most of which likely would not have seen frontline combat and most of which would have never held a gun as part of the actual daily activities.

You're not fooling me with that 737-MAX (Score:1, Redundant)

by haunebu ( 16326 )

If it's Boeing, I ain't going.

Engineering is only part of it (Score:2)

by Khyber ( 864651 )

Right now, Boeing's problem is QA/QC. What they need is a CEO with *SOME* engineering experience but who has a specialty focus and whose primary experience is with ISO/TC184/SC4 and maintaining quality standards, and production speed be damned. You can be an engineer all day long and still fail as a CEO because you don't understand the standards and regulations applicable to your industry. If the new CEO does not understand the QC side of things, it won't matter if they're an engineer, this fiasco will repe

Re: (Score:2)

by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 )

> Right now, Boeing's problem is QA/QC.

Right now, Boeing's problem is cultural. The MBA's and CFO's and accountants run the show, and they have created a "we're the shakers and movers - get the gadammed plan out the door NOW! The Max is a textbook case of non-engineers in total control, with contempt for engineers running the show, and don't you engineers forget it.

Yo are correct about the schedule be damned part being needed.

It isn't a digital thing where an engineer can't figure out QC or manage. The can, and they have i the past. But th

Re: (Score:2)

by bkmoore ( 1910118 )

> Right now, Boeing's problem is QA/QC. What they need is a CEO with *SOME* engineering experience but who has a specialty focus and whose primary experience is with ISO/TC184/SC4 and maintaining quality standards, and production speed be damned.....

The problems cut across the board. In aerospace engineering and manufacturing, institutional knowledge is key. The reason airplanes don't crash isn't because of better engineering analysis. It's because we get smarter over time, and ideally if you have younger engineers sitting next to guys and gals who designed the last few generations of aircraft. Same goes for manufacturing and quality control. Ideally the guys running the factory worked on the previous generations, and you know what needs to be done, an

Toyota (Score:2)

by timeOday ( 582209 )

I'd be interested to know the backgrounds of the people at the helm of Toyota during its years of peak quality, say, 10+ years ago. (Not that it's bad now).

WHAT?! NOT A USELESS MBA? (Score:2)

by RogueWarrior65 ( 678876 )

I'm shocked! SHOCKED I TELL YOU at the prospect of an engineer running a company that makes product the requires engineering to create.

You need only look at a particular interview with Steve Jobs to understand this. He said that at one point Apple hired a bunch of MBAs to run things and it didn't work at all because they didn't know how to do anything. This also speaks to the reality that once a company loses sight of what made them a great company in the first place, they're effed. Churning out the same

The Boeing CEO ... (Score:2)

by PPH ( 736903 )

... shouldn't be that important. Boeing is a big conglomerate. And when they need is a leader that can delegate decision making power to the division heads. Stan Deal's (Boeing Commercial Aircraft CEO) replacement should have engineering or manufacturing experience. And Calhoun's replacement needs to back off of micromanaging the division.

I knew it was going to be bad when Deal didn't show up on the news front and center immediately after the door incident. Calhoun did. Problem is that his only job is ke

Boeing needs a fierce aviationist (Score:2)

by couchslug ( 175151 )

Engineering isn't enough. Boeing needs someone of the classic US aviationist mold to bring in a cadre and ruthlessly crush and purge all who resist (because passive resistance is deadly).

More people with military aviation backgrounds would not hurt because pilots understand in a visceral way whats at stake.

Wrong background (Score:1)

by Iamthecheese ( 1264298 )

An engineering background would certainly help. Such a fellow would at least understand how planes are designed. But I would argue a QA background would be enormously more helpful at the singular purpose, if it is your focus, of safety.

good luck with that (Score:2)

by wardk ( 3037 )

Alan Mulally is probably the only one that could right things, unfortunately he is 78.

Yow! Maybe I should have asked for my Neutron Bomb in PAISLEY --