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Documentary Claims to Unmask 'Q'. Are Q's Drops Over? (mashable.com)

(Saturday April 10, 2021 @11:34AM (EditorDavid) from the out-of-the-storm dept.)


QAnon "was [1]all but confirmed to be a hoax by the person who ran the hoax," writes Mashable, citing the finale of a six-episode documentary on HBO by Cullen Hoback.

"All of it leads back to the same place — that there are very few other people who could have and would have made the Q drops other than [2]the person who ran the place where they were posted ," notes Newsweek:

> Ahead of the first episode, Ron Watkins posted on encrypted messaging service Telegram stating: "I am not Q. I've never spoken privately with Q. I don't know who Q is." However, during the final episode, Hoback suggests that Ron Watkins slips up and inadvertently reveals that he posted as Q on 8kun

A BBC investigative reporter on disinformation tweeted [3]that climactic moment from Cullens' documentary , adding "It was so good it made the whole six hours worth it."

Or as Mashable puts it, "Ron Watkins seems to admit he's Q, in the dumbest possible ending to QAnon," calling it "so anticlimactic it bordered on absurd."

> The previously camera-shy Watkins — who runs 8kun [formerly 8chan] alongside his father, Jim — has long been [4]the key suspect for the identity of Q... But his accidental reveal, the slip of the mask is huge, if anticlimactic, news... It's wild and so...dumb...that this is how we all find out — because Watkins slipped up for a second.

>

> It makes sense since Q had somewhat inexplicably tied its fortunes to posting only on 8chan/8kun. It's inexplicable unless, you know, the Watkins family was behind the ordeal.

Insider notes that Fredrick Brennan, the software developer who created 8chan and has since become a vocal critic, [5]also believes Q is one of the Watkins' — a theory investigated last June [6]by the Atlantic .

> And in a [7]September investigation , ABC News reported on the likelihood that Watkins is Q, finding that he and his son, Ron, were the "two Americans most clearly associated" with Q drops. The theory was also popularized by a September "Reply All" [8]podcast episode ...

>

> At the end of February 2020, Watkins registered the PAC, "Disarm the Deep State," with the Federal Elections Commission.

They also note that after the documentary aired on HBO, "the community reacted as many experts suspected it would: denial and accusations of 'fake news.'" Watkins had apparently gone to great lengths to suggest to Cullen that Q [9]was instead former Trump advisor Steve Bannon . And last week, the BBC reporter points out, Watkins' father [10]began suggesting a new theory : that Q was actually....documentary maker Cullen Hoback. But the BBC reporter [11]adds :

> Based on the finale of #QIntotheStorm Q drops are over for good. Both Jim and Ron told Cullen Hoback Q would end after the election, and that's exactly what happened.

>

> We already had proof of the end given there haven't been any drops since 8 December, but we can now be certain.

Hoback's tweet specifically says that "Both Ron and Jim, but especially Ron, told me multiple times over the years that [12]they believed Q would cease at the election ." And Hoback adds:

"Ron implied on more than one occasion it *might be* a marketing campaign."



[1] https://mashable.com/article/q-identity-revealed-hbo-documentary/

[2] https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-hbo-ron-watkins-8kun-1580989

[3] https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1378916248063463428

[4] https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/llhe5nm

[5] https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/q-popular-theory-says-qanons-132841935.html

[6] https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/06/qanon-nothing-can-stop-what-is-coming/610567/

[7] https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/men-qanon/story?id=73046374

[8] https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/llhe5nm

[9] https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-q-tried-to-pin-the-whole-thing-on-steve-bannon

[10] https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1378940826311663620

[11] https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1379097929072443400

[12] https://twitter.com/CullenHoback/status/1378981135540047872

Re:The GOP is Q-Anon. It's fucking pathetic. (Score:5, Insightful)

by sweepkick ( 531861 )

>> Moscow Donald

> Why did Hunter Biden receive a $3.5M payment from the wife of Moscow's most corrupt major ever while Joe was VP?

> cf. Confession through Projection

It's really a simple answer: he didn't.

Maybe look into some books on critical thinking?

Re: (Score:2)

by ArchieBunker ( 132337 )

[1]https://www.usatoday.com/story... [usatoday.com]

[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/01/fact-check-unproven-claims-hunter-biden-got-3-5-m-russia/3586861001/

Re: Why the heck is this even on Slashdot? (Score:2)

by klipclop ( 6724090 )

Because the editor used to stick Q-tips so far into his ear it gave them brain damage.

Re: (Score:3)

by JoshuaZ ( 1134087 )

The classic Slashdot refrain was "news for nerds, stuff that matters." In so far as this is an internet based phenomenon, which has had major impact on US politics (and has spready outside the US also), seems to fit both of those.

Final Q Drop - Trump is an obvious Russian agent. (Score:2, Informative)

by Anonymous Coward

On Tuesday, the Republican-chaired Senate Intelligence Committee released a report with damning details of the extent of cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence operatives.

The Post reports: "The long-awaited report from the Senate Intelligence Committee contains dozens of new findings that appear to show more direct links between Trump associates and Russian intelligence, and pierces the president's long-standing attempts to dismiss the Kremlin's intervention on his behalf as a hoax.

Idiocy hasn't stopped yet (Score:2, Offtopic)

by gnasher719 ( 869701 )

Latest news: Egyptian Captain Marwa Elselehdar, the first female Egyptian captain, isn't only accused by Q to have blocked the Suez Canal with the Ever Given, even though she was a few hundred miles away on a different ship - now the story is that the Ever Given was ordered by Hilary Clinton to import child sex slaves into the USA.

Are you guys in the USA running competitions who can post the most inane drivel? Are you giving out prizes for this rubbish?

Re: (Score:3)

by Registered Coward v2 ( 447531 )

> Are you guys in the USA running competitions who can post the most inane drivel? Are you giving out prizes for this rubbish?

Well, we did once give the presidency to such a person, and then lived with it for 4 years before sobering up...

Re: (Score:2)

by fermion ( 181285 )

When I was young, my favorite newsgroup was pave the earth. Maybe it was because the internet was limited, no aol yet, but no one took it seriously. It was a game, play with silly ideas. In so,e ways an intellectual exercise.

The reality is that Q is irrelevant. What is relevant is that so many people want to believe not what is evidence based, but what conforms to their expectations. So even though novel viruses have mutated and spread through animals through history, so many want to believe COVID came f

Yes absolutely!! (Score:2)

by burtosis ( 1124179 )

They, as well adapted reasoning beings, carefully evaluated every nuance and checked for any contradictions then compared it against comprehensive statistical models to ascertain a level of plausibility, then came to a series of very sane and finely crafted realizations. I’m sure this new information will be handled the same way.

I am Spartacus (Score:2)

by PPH ( 736903 )

n/t

Glad I'm not on social media or care about rumers. (Score:2)

by Fly Swatter ( 30498 )

WTF is a Q? And how is this news for nerds?

Re: (Score:2)

by BaPeFo0t ( 7961364 )

Notice how half the stories today revolve around genetics or gene editing? Q once famously said this.

> "Strange, isn't it? Everything you know, your entire civilization, it all begins right here in this little pond... of goo."

;)

Re: (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

I hope you're not American. You should be aware of large influences on your politics.

First thought -- Q from Star Trek Next Gen? (Score:2)

by blahbooboo ( 839709 )

Im glad I dont pay attention to enough of these type of Qanon articles that my first thought was "Documentary on the Q character from STTNG???"

Re: (Score:2)

by DontBeAMoran ( 4843879 )

Or also Q from the James Bond movies. Those are the only two valid understandings for "Q".

Re: (Score:2)

by fluffernutter ( 1411889 )

Because it shapes the political opinions of an almost majority of people in the US?

Re: (Score:2)

by Entrope ( 68843 )

It really doesn't. The QAnon crowd are a very small, rather embarrassing, but very noisy and attention-hungry minority. From [1]https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/07... [cnn.com]:

> [In January], the NBC News poll asked voters whether they had positive, negative, neutral or no views of QAnon. A mere 2% held positive views. The rest were either negative (42%), neutral (11%), or weren't sure or didn't know (45%).

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/07/politics/qanon-americans-analysis/index.html

The Laugh? (Score:1, Flamebait)

by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) *

I wouldn't voluntarily fund AT&T, owner of HBO and CNN, so I haven't watched this, but many YouTubers have been talking about it.

Apparently the producers' case hinges on asking Ron if he is Q and he laughs uncomfortably. Rational people say he seems like the question is absurd but the producers feel the laugh was a guilty admission and then engage in mind reading so their docudrama doesn't end without a conclusion.

I haven't read anything from Ron since he went to Gab (which is always unable to load due

Don't know if it's true (Score:2)

by smoot123 ( 1027084 )

Don't really care, TBH. But this is the first vaguely sensible thing I've ever heard about QAnon.

news sources (Score:4, Insightful)

by algaeman ( 600564 )

If your news source comes from a shadowy character who hides their identity, and has no verification beyond their "deep state" sources (aka their wild imagination), then it doesn't matter who it is, since the information is false.

Q never made much sense. (Score:2)

by whoever57 ( 658626 )

"Q" is supposed to be a former high-ranking military individual with security clearance.

But "Q" clearances are issued by the DoE. In other words, to civilians, for work on nuclear weapons. A high-ranking military official would not have Q clearance.

Who cares? (Score:1)

by groobly ( 6155920 )

Qanon is 1% news and 99% manufactured narrative to make us think that crazy white supremacists have taken over the Republican Party. I really don't care what the media has to say about qanon or q.

Reading list (Score:2)

by puddingebola ( 2036796 )

Started reading the Illuminatus trilogy months ago, need to pick it up again. The world's fascination with conspiracy theories will never end. Conspiracy theories hold the promise of answers, and endless answers at that. Why is your educational system failing, infrastructure falling apart, jobs being moved to other regions or nations, value of your home collapsing? A conspiracy fills the emotional and psychological need for an answer, and with an endless chain of coincidence, can supply the need. Q Anon is

Facts don't matter (Score:1)

by Baconsmoke ( 6186954 )

QAnon people don't join the movement because of facts. So, conversely facts won't get them to leave. They join because they want to believe, because it fills a void in them. People like that are the hardest to convince that they are in the wrong.

Conspiracy theory crazies! (Score:1)

by MorgothTheMighty ( 527790 )

It's fun how the exact same people who bought into the idea that 9/11 was an inside job by the Bush admin and literally believe Trump was working for Putin have a nice long hard laugh at how crazy and stupid all those Q people are.

However, on religious issues there can be little or no compromise.
There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious
beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than
Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being.
But like any powerful weapon, the use of God's name on one's behalf
should be used sparingly. The religious factions that are growing
throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.
They are trying to force government leaders into following their position
100 percent. If you disagree with these religious groups on a
particular moral issue, they complain, they threaten you with a loss of
money or votes or both. I'm frankly sick and tired of the political
preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be
a moral person, I must believe in "A," "B," "C," and "D." Just who do
they think they are? And from where do they presume to claim the
right to dictate their moral beliefs to me? And I am even more angry as
a legislator who must endure the threats of every religious group who
thinks it has some God-granted right to control my vote on every roll
call in the Senate. I am warning them today: I will fight them every
step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all
Americans in the name of "conservatism."
-- Senator Barry Goldwater, from the Congressional Record,
September 16, 1981