Qualcomm's New Snapdragon 870 Reheats the Snapdragon 865 for 2021 Phones (theverge.com)
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- News link: https://mobile.slashdot.org/story/21/01/19/1533244/qualcomms-new-snapdragon-870-reheats-the-snapdragon-865-for-2021-phones
- Source link: https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/19/22233584/qualcomm-snapdragon-870-865-plus-refresh-processor-smartphones-2021
> The 870, on the other hand, is virtually identical to the 865 and 865 Plus, with the same design right down to the Kryo 585 CPU and Adreno 650 GPU cores. The 870 is clocked at 3.2GHz, however, making it about 10 percent faster than the original 865's 2.84GHz and about 3 percent faster than the 865 Plus (which offered 3.1GHz speeds). Think of it almost like a Snapdragon 865 Plus-plus. Qualcomm says that the reason for the new chip is in response to manufacturer and market demands. The 870 is designed for companies that want to offer a top-tier processor but don't need the absolute best features that the flagship Snapdragon 888 offers and the higher price tag that it demands. Instead, the company says that it expects that Snapdragon 870 phones should hit a sub-$800 price tag (although, confusingly, we've already seen Snapdragon 888 phones like the $799 Galaxy S21 start to bleed into that range).
[1] https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/19/22233584/qualcomm-snapdragon-870-865-plus-refresh-processor-smartphones-2021
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No, according to an earlier story today Apple's trying to cool things down rather than reheat them.
Re: So in other words... (Score:2)
Well Apple does need to get cooling under control. After that 20 minutes benchmark that showed Apple chips half in power after 3-4 minutes, it revealed that Apple was kinda faking benchmarks to make their chips look a lot better then they really were. Not to mention that Qualcomm Snapdragon chips are the ones that really blow the A series out of the water.
Re: So in other words... (Score:2)
> Well Apple does need to get cooling under control. After that 20 minutes benchmark that showed Apple chips half in power after 3-4 minutes, it revealed that Apple was kinda faking benchmarks to make their chips look a lot better then they really were. Not to mention that Qualcomm Snapdragon chips are the ones that really blow the A series out of the water.
>> As usual, a Citation-free Hater. What a surprise...
Re: So in other words... (Score:2)
Well, according to Android Authority, hardly Apple toadies, they tested the passively-cooled M1 MacBook Air.
[1]https://www.androidauthority.c... [androidauthority.com]
When they did their thermal throttling test, they found that the M1 Air throttled a whole 5, not 50, percent after a thorough heat-soaking.
BTW, that was just the first random review I looked at; not some cherry-picked article that had an outlier result.
Oh, and an article I read that did throttling tests of the M1 Air, Mac mini and MacBook Pro actually showed that the f
[1] https://www.androidauthority.com/apple-m1-test-benchmark-performance-thermal-1185988/
As Usual, Qualcomm's Got Nothin' (Score:2)
Poor Qualcomm; over 10 years to catch up with Apple's SoCs, and yet all they got is to try to clock their same old broke-ass, power-hungry SoCs faster, making them even more power-hungry.
Nice try, Qualcomm!
Reheats? (Score:1)
Have no idea what this means, but anything about being "hot" is not good marketing for a processing unit....
So . . . (Score:2)
> Instead, the company says that it expects that Snapdragon 870 phones should hit a sub-$800 price tag (although, confusingly, we've already seen Snapdragon 888 phones like the $799 Galaxy S21 start to bleed into that range).
So last year's top end Qualcomm CPU has been overclocked slightly, given a new mobel number, and sells for slightly cheaper--maybe. Is that it?
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At those prices no wonder people are trying to turn cellphones into personal computers. Costs about as much.
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They already are personal computers...just not very useful ones.
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Depending on what you use a computer for.
For most people, Web Browsing, Email and a few small Apps. A Smart Phone does its job really well.
For a lot of people getting a Laptop or a desktop is less about doing more than what you want your cell phone to do. it is just about getting a bigger screen, and more custom input mouse/keyboard.
Samsung, has its DEX feature, which you can plug a monitor, keyboard and mouse to your phone, and you have a usable desktop environment. In practicality, I could actually do m
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They're computers designed to be owned and used by a single person, hence they're personal computers.
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> So last year's top end Qualcomm CPU has been overclocked slightly, given a new mobel number, and sells for slightly cheaper--maybe. Is that it?
Looks that way. As energy per computation is the real limiter, do not expect any large progress in this space, unless and until one of these persistent "Magic Battery!" announcements actually pans out.