Study: Saving Pandas Led To the Downfall of Other Animals (upi.com)
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- News link: https://news.slashdot.org/story/20/08/08/0214216/study-saving-pandas-led-to-the-downfall-of-other-animals
- Source link: https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/08/03/Study-Saving-pandas-led-to-downfall-of-other-animals/3281596478033/
> Efforts to save the giant panda from extinction [1]have come at the expense of other large mammals , a new study released Monday by the science journal Nature Ecology and Evolution said...
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> Since the giant panda reserves were set up in China during the 1960s, leopards have disappeared from 81% of reserves, snow leopards from 38%, wolves from 77% and Asian wild dogs from 95%.
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> Researchers found with the dwindling numbers of leopards and wolves, deer and livestock have mostly [2]roamed free without a threat from natural predators , causing damage to natural habitats for surrounding wildlife, [3]including the pandas .
[1] https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/08/03/Study-Saving-pandas-led-to-downfall-of-other-animals/3281596478033/
[2] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-020-1260-0.epdf?sharing_token=GTy_b-NucTsh2E1Mlxq_LtRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0M_VWhFurCXJgl4MFW_OBP4xg2E6LdnLsN0_1MEIUVeuJhnStc7XTKotqYg4EVfHVXByIDqpQAwh198JfpiFm0Ta213BETrZxHM7byZ224LuQES56kp8e5BjPbqDfewdZA40_FDnnQssfW33oSJn1-dx3EkSFOHosbjq440ENIAZFiHsliCeiv91vAzYWtHHA42mckIIgNP-mojTqSN9DpeSZEi34Kmt02l33g5ZjOkU_gat0S6h3-we4wDL8eHwjr24_5nQg0st239jL1W6yxc11jAFiN2S4CZJkkzgxwyww%3D%3D&tracking_referrer=www.theguardian.com
[3] https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-53616593
Don't underestimate deer. (Score:2)
Unchecked, they multiply and eat everything.
Not the Snow Leopards! (Score:3)
The rest is non cute so whatever but not the Snow Leopards!
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I was logging on to make almost this exact comment. Beat me to it
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> The rest is non cute so whatever but not the Snow Leopards!
Did you watch Kung Fu Panda?
Tai Lung is a snow leopard. Snow leopards are evil.
outside the reserves (Score:1)
How does this compare to their survival outside the reserves? If 99.9% of leopards outside the reserve have disappeared in the same time frame, then the reserves are doing their job. A panda reserve is not going to provide a lot of safety from poachers, but if it gives them even a little shelter, that is better than nothing. In summation, humans destroy all life near them.
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Panda poachers?
What are you going on about?
The virtue you signaled, while there, is not fucking valid. It doesnt make you a good little boy when the virtues you signal are phony. What it means is that you are either (A) too dim to understand the giant and obvious problem with your reasoning (that poaching has NOTHING to do with why pandas are endangered) or (B) too fucking habitually dishonest to care that its trivial for others to see through the front that you have erected.
This is slashdot, so you a
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Shhh the important point is that conservation is a laughable joke. Carry on building those shopping malls!
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No, the point is whenever humans attempt to control nature it fails. And malls are dead; what century are you living in?
Just like China itself. (Score:2)
The moment China decided to make giant pandas a national treasure is the moment that they are no longer animals.
They are a representation of Chinese officials, or China in general.
They do not fit in the nature. They can only eat particular kinds of bamboo leaves. Just like the Chinsese officials that do not fit in the society and cannot live without their priviliges.
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Of all the animals, the panda seems almost hilariously set up for extinction. Let's hope that is the case with Chinese oppressors as well.
It's not nice to fool Mother Nature (Score:2)
Sorry, but more often than not, do-gooders, particularly those who don't live where the perceived problem is, end up making more problems or exacerbating problems when they try to fix something.
There's a documented case of some do-gooders banning dogs on an island in Southeast Asia because they weren't indigenous. Turns out that the dogs kept the monitor lizard population in check. Oops. After that lizard attacks on humans skyrocketed.
Look what I did mom! (Score:3)
There go those nasty unintended consequences again...
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But the intended consequences, the primary being that virtue was signaled, also happened.
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> There go those nasty unintended consequences again...
Except there were no unintended consequences.
Two things happened:
A. Reserves were set up for pandas.
B. Other species declined, both in and out of these reserves.
TFA presents no evidence whatsoever that "A" caused "B".
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I think what you're saying is that, like most science "news", it's an empty summary of a scientific finding written by a shitty clickbait journalist who makes a living on tickling the cockles of political bias for clicks. Once upon a time, there was a chance the slashdot editors might catch or even care about stuff like this, but those days seem behind us. In this example, the clickbaiter manages to sneak the actual finding paraphrased from the study's author into the final sentence of his article that al