Microsoft Signals Renewed Interest In Windows With Latest Reshuffle (theverge.com)
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- News link: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/08/07/214246/microsoft-signals-renewed-interest-in-windows-with-latest-reshuffle
- Source link: https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/7/21358339/microsoft-windows-reorg-2020-panos-panay-windows-development
> The software giant placed Surface chief [2]Panos Panay in charge of Windows earlier this year , and is now reshuffling parts of that team. It follows Microsoft's decision to [3]slice Windows into two parts more than two years ago after the departure of former Windows chief Terry Myerson. Microsoft moved core Windows development to a cloud and AI team (Azure), and created a new group to work on Windows 10 "experiences" like apps, the Start menu, and new features.
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> Now, Microsoft is moving parts of Windows development back under Panos Panay's control. Specifically, that means the Windows fundamentals and developer experience teams have been returned to what we traditionally call the Windows team. It's an admission that the big Windows split didn't work quite as planned. [...] [4]Thurrott.com has obtained an internal memo from Panos Panay that goes into detail on the changes being made here. While some core parts of Windows, particularly the engineering side, will stay with the Azure division, Microsoft's reshuffle is focused on cleaning up Windows to ship and update it reliably. The changes also align Microsoft's Project Reunion app work, bringing win32 and UWP apps closer together, with the Windows team.
[1] https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/7/21358339/microsoft-windows-reorg-2020-panos-panay-windows-development
[2] https://tech.slashdot.org/story/20/02/05/1820209/microsoft-to-combine-its-windows-client-and-hardware-teams-under-chief-product-officer-panos-panay
[3] https://tech.slashdot.org/story/18/03/29/150257/microsofts-longtime-windows-boss-terry-myerson-to-leave-the-company-amid-a-huge-executive-reorganization
[4] https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/238762/windows-rocked-by-major-reorg
Windows 10 taught me to love (Score:5, Insightful)
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade
on my "headless" system
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Don't laugh, but one day the Windows 10 OS kernel will be based on Linux. The money is really in the API and intellectual property. At first, I could see a Windows Server Linux destro, then it gets rolled out as a consumer OS. As the momentum builds, it finally goes mainstream into consumer devices.
Bill Gates is gone. Microsoft has doesn't have the anti-open source zeal that it once had. Back then, it was personal. Now, open source is embraced only if it makes dollars and cents.
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> Microsoft has doesn't have the anti-open source zeal that it once had. Back then, it was personal. Now, open source is embraced only if it makes dollars and cents.
LOL because they now have DRM in the os, their embrace, extend, extingusih strategy worked largely because the public is stupid. Now all apps are client server (aka stolen) you no longer own your PC if you don't control honest binaries that execute on them. That was the whole point of UWP, to get rid of win 32 binaries and move to encrypted computing where Microsoft and app developers have full control over your PC.
The whole plan is to lock down the PC and it first began with the PC game industry in the m
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MS is only pro open source in aspects that serve its own interests. No one of rational mind thought or claimed MS embracement of open-ness was based on altruism; because clearly it's not.
A Linux based Windows OS would be hybrid. The core elements would be open source, but mixed in with binaries that serve proprietary services and intellectual property.
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if there's one thing that windows 10 has improved over past windows versions, are OS upgrades. not counting the release that had the critical bug, you download one big update from windows update, install and reboot and you can almost forget you just installed something
Would be great if resulted in a "windows lite" (Score:3)
A windows without the store, ads, cortana, general spying, just the bare minimum to run Windows executables with the lastest drivers.
But it's like expecting a volcano to spill ice at this point.
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Oh sweet baby Jesus, yes.
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Go back to the Windows 7 UI experience that still was usable. With Win 8 and Win 10 there appeared a market for classic shell and open shell to reclaim lost functionality.
Who cares? (Score:4, Insightful)
it doesn't matter what meaningless shuffling goes on behind the scenes. Windows 10 is still a stinking, steaming mountain of rent-seeking, privacy-destroying, ad-riddled shit. Nothing short of Nadella admitting that and mandating a change will make it any better.
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> it doesn't matter what meaningless shuffling goes on behind the scenes. Windows 10 is still a stinking, steaming mountain of rent-seeking, privacy-destroying, ad-riddled shit. Nothing short of Nadella admitting that and mandating a change will make it any better.
It's pretty much over, everything we worried about in the late 90's to mid 2000's came true due to the general public getting internet. First with mmo's and steam getting the stupid public to literally buy fraudulently client-server coded software to undermine control of customers PC's. Which lead to steam in 2004 and then another decade goes and we get uplay and origin.
The software companies greatest gift was getting internet and the computer illiterate masses online. Windows 10 is fully drm'd os and w
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Ah yes. We live in eternal September.
Everyone knew this would be the outcome. Thankfully we are not much longer for this world. It will be left to the eternal Septemberites who will continue to run everything into the ground for it is their way.
They remembered they developed Windows (Score:2)
But now, they are just going to spend more time making it worse.
The operating system that made its name? (Score:3)
What kind of ignorant youngsters are running this site? MS-DOS was the operating system that made its name. MS Windows came much later. Hell, even MS Word was years before MS Windows.
Gates had a stranglehold on PC operating systems long before Windows was created.
Now get off my lawn.
Developers! (Score:1)
Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers ...... !!
To this day I can still see his pit sweat. My beard is grey now.
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> Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers ...... !!
> To this day I can still see his pit sweat. My beard is grey now.
How embarrassing for Microsoft that Windows was much better under that raging ape than it is now. At least Ballmer didn't try to spy on you or force software changes or tell you that you couldn't control your own computer. He also released Windows 7, the best version of Windows that there ever was.
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While the Windows "internals" have been steadily improving, the User Interface and other parts have been in steady decline since Windows 2000. The Fisher-Price version of Windows (XP/2003) was the "cusp" version that could be configured as if it were a "computer" (classic mode) or left in the new Useless Interface mode and subsequently Windows has been engaged in a race to the bottom of the computing pile.
Windows 7 (and Vista) were the first versions supporting the new Useless Interface (UI) as the only op