Whatever legitimate places AI has, inside an OS ain't one
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Davuluri replied with a classic " [1]we hear you ," admitting there was work to be done on those points, but rather curiously claimed that there had to be a balance between what user feedback said and what his team heard through "other channels." Nicely imprecise, but capable of a precise parsing in one respect at least: reliability, usability, and stability aren't coming first. If they were, he'd say so. He doesn't. They're not.
Microsoft is in the business of engineering, and engineering has its rules. All design is compromise, and innovation means doing the unexpected. Prioritization of the fundamentals is not incompatible with either, rather, it's the foundation for both. Without that, something else is going on. That something else is summed up in a two-word phrase – agentic OS. Because whatever an agentic OS is, it's not good engineering.
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An operating system has a very clear job to do, one that has evolved over time and will evolve into the future, but one that remains absolutely clear. It controls the resources, virtual or physical, of a computer, presenting them as a set of standard abstract services to the applications and environment that the user interacts with. Otherwise, it should get out of the way. True for MS-DOS 1.0, true for Windows 11. Along the way, what was a quick and dirty clone of an 8-bit OS has absorbed multiple CPU architectures, multitasking, security, and the equivalent silicon evolution of single-cell algae to a planetary ecosystem of eight billion intelligent apes. Yet it's doing the same job, albeit at breathtakingly different scales.
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Agentic computing doesn't fit here. It's not an OS service. Arguably, it runs counter to core OS principles. Agentic computing is, well, about agents, things that do tasks on behalf of the user within the modern, diverse mix of local and remote services and applications. An agentic platform makes sense, in the same way that a SaaS platform makes sense. A "SaaS OS" is a nonsensical concept, at least as far as desktop computing goes.
Agentic components should live above the application layer, where the user lives. They have to acquire data, run services, and initiate actions, but in ways that respect the user.
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The only reason to put agentic functionality within the OS proper is for privileged access to data and services that go beyond what the user and user-level apps need. A modern OS devotes a lot of time to keeping things compartmentalized and secure. There is nothing here that needs to provide special dispensation or powers to agentic processes that are taking on user tasks.
Calling Windows an agentic OS rather than a platform might seem like semantics, but in engineering, saying what you mean matters. Microsoft has always liked eliding the Windows OS with the complete bundle of apps and non-OS services it comes with. Is the Windows desktop environment part of the core OS? Practically, yes; architecturally, no. Linux with its multiple choices of desktop environment is much less ambiguous here, but that's done widespread adoption does no favors.
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What's worse is insisting that a user-level application or feature is so intrinsic to the OS that it cannot be removed. Infamously, Bill Gates argued in the 1990s US antitrust court case that Internet Explorer was so integral to Windows that it was technically impossible for it to be removed. As court documents revealed at the time, IE was actually integral to [10]Microsoft's determination to make the company an unremovable integral part of the web . To anyone with a workable knowledge of OS architecture back then, it was obvious how untenable the claims were. Inasmuch as the scramble for AI dominance now is as powerful as that to control the web back then, it's appropriate to apply the same critical thinking.
Back in the 1990s, people desperately wanted to get on the web. The desperation behind agentic AI is coming from elsewhere, presumably the undefined "other channels" rather than user feedback.
You have to use an OS, but you can choose to adopt a platform, and an agentic platform would have degrees of adoption so low it could liquefy helium. This is market engineering – at least, let's hope so.
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Whatever legitimate places AI has, inside an OS ain't one. We'll take all the reliability, usability, and stability you've got, though. ®
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Re: "Whatever legitimate places AI has, inside an OS ain't one"
There may well be. After the last AI boom (remember Expert Systems?) there were a few useful tools around, but only a few.
Just because certain people are trying to ram AI anywhere doesn't mean that it is automatically without use. Blindly vilifying AI is as much an error as bashing it in everywhere.
Re: "Whatever legitimate places AI has, inside an OS ain't one"
"Blindly vilifying AI is as much an error as bashing it in everywhere."
But more likely to be right most of the time.
Re: "Whatever legitimate places AI has, inside an OS ain't one"
I think you mean "More likely to be right than any given AI response".
Re: "Whatever legitimate places AI has, inside an OS ain't one"
My Linux workstation is remarkably AI free. I have a Docker with Python and my own LLM's, but they can be deleted with a single line of code.
I control the OS, not some corporation. Windows is the other way around and you'll pay them monthly to access your own data and like it.
Re: "Whatever legitimate places AI has, inside an OS ain't one"
A similar thing to this happens in the world of cycling. Oval chainrings are one of these ideas that seem obviously useful but which aren't actually much cop when you start to use them. This one has popped up in the cycling world at least three times and generally gets reinvented, hyped like crazy and in the face of complete disinterest forgotten about for another few decades.
The same will happen with LLM AI systems, save that they mostly won't resurge again ever. Yes, they have uses same as blockchain has uses, but nowhere near as many as the proponents of the things think that they have.
Re: "Whatever legitimate places AI has, inside an OS ain't one"
> Whatever legitimate places AI has
The only valid use of AI is to separate the gullible from their money. Anyone pushing AI at this point is either a fool or a fraudster. Or, more likely, both.
Convince me otherwise.
I think it's pretty clear - the "Other channels" is management.
The same Management who cannot be seen to have pissed away multiple billions chasing a fad which anyone with half a brain could see was going to go the Way of Web3.0 or the dotcom bubble in short order...
"Other Channels" could conceivably be the intelligence community. Remember when Microsoft _allegedly_ put an NSA DLL in Windows?
Vision vs Hallucination
"The same Management who cannot be seen to have pissed away multiple billions chasing a fad ..." It is said that Bill Gates made that selfsame point to management in 2019 "you’re going to burn this billion dollars... (by investing in OpenAI) "
Integral to the OS
What's worse is insisting that a user-level application or feature is so intrinsic to the OS that it cannot be removed.
What's even worse, like the IE situation mentioned in the article, is intentionally making an application intrinsic to the OS so you can later argue that it cannot be removed when people start asking questions about your abuse of market dominance.
Internet Explorer, Windows Defender (W10 onwards), Teams (at least early W11 versions), and now copilot. This shouldn't surprise anyone.
They also tried with the MS Store, which is nearly impossible to get rid of without breaking the OS (the latest 25H2 finally has a policy, but Enterprise only)
I notice my MS365 homepage having a bigger and bigger copilot textbox, and it's taking more and more clicks to get to the place i need.
My prediction? They'll make Copilot an integral part of the UI, argue they cannot remove it, and probably get away with it too.
Re: Integral to the OS
Having learned nothing from Clippy or Cortana.
Maybe they should just be banned from using anything in the Windows UI that starts with a C?
Perhaps they may benefit from a more real-world example, by learning the difference between a tool and a tradesperson.
AI can have uses as the former, but when it tries to be the latter, it's (and we are) doomed.
Agentic Hypervisor?
The agentic platform might (in an ideal world) act like a Type 2 hypervisor - situated between the OS and the active user desktop (and application suite) if it's turned on and active. That seems like a reasonable way to do it - transparently intercepting a user action and turning it into a series of integrated application and system calls. And like a hypervisor, it ought to allow multiple agents to run simultaneously, if that's the way Microsoft wants to structure their AI. If turned off, the active user desktop would run normally (natively) over Windows without AI. The user could also switch on the fly between agentic AI and non-agentic (no AI) desktop that way, too.
I figure that could improve reliability, useability and stability as well as respect user choice.
Otherwise, like any good Type 2 hypervisor, it should be completely removable.
Anyhow, it's all academic to me - I use Linux.
"We hear you"... Corporate talk for "Stop whining and be content with what you get".
Why doesn't management actually listen to users
Dog's got to bark, a mule's got to bray
Soldiers must fight and preachеrs must pray
And children, I guess, must get their own way
The minute that you say no
Why did the kids put beans in their ears?
No one can hear with beans in their ears
After a while the reason appears
They did it 'cause we said no
... The song "Never Say No" from the musical "The Fantastiks" https://genius.com/Hugh-thomas-actor-and-william-larsen-actor-never-say-no-lyrics
Am I saying that tech management resembles petulant children with beans in their ears? Well, yes. I might be suggesting that.
I Can't Wait For It To Be Rolled Out....
I am on Linux so it does not matter to me, but this is going to be a popcorn moment.
If the Agentic OS is forced upon existing users, then will this slow down the PC due to the resources required by the AI ?
We all know that Microsoft will f*ck it up, one way or another, so it is going to be fun to see the fallout.
Maybe, just maybe, next year will be the year of Linux on the desktop....
Re: I Can't Wait For It To Be Rolled Out....
I'd be right there with you were it not for being forced to use W11 at work :(
Re: I Can't Wait For It To Be Rolled Out....
My sister is forced to use W11 at work. She is also required to disable and avoid LLMs in every possible way for client privacy. If Microsoft make an LLM compulsory at the OS level she may well be required to upgrade to something without AI. Would your work place be happy to send every keystroke and mouse click to Microsoft where it will be used to train an AI? If they are, pick a few articles on the internet showing how to get training data back out of an LLM and see if they really like the idea of sending their trade secrets to competitors.
A fundamental misunderstanding of Microsoft's raison d'etre
Whilst this an excellent article in the main, there's a fundamental lack of understanding of the nature of Big Tech (I originally wrote that as "Bug Tech" which is an apposite Freudian slip) in the statement that "Microsoft is in the business of engineering".
Microsoft is very definitely NOT in the business of engineering. It could be argued that it was up until 1979 but since the 80s it has existed only to make money. Nothing wrong with that in a capitalist system but they're no different from all the others such as Apple, Meta and Google. Their foundation myths that they're somehow hippy types different from conventional corporates are just that - myths intended to distract attention from the fact that they are cash machines and we're the metaphorical cows being milked.
Hallucinations
It is bad enough when dealing with interactive chatbots that can be ignored by intelligent people, but I do not want my operating system hallucinating on me when managing system resources.
"Whatever legitimate places AI has, inside an OS ain't one"
Is there a button for upvoting an article? The only thing wrong with it is the implication that there might be legitimate places for AI.