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LisaGUI recreates Apple's innovative computer OS, without emulating it

(2025/11/24)


LisaGUI is a faithful reconstruction of the desktop and user interface of Apple's Lisa, the workstation that fed ideas into the early Macintosh, and it shows that there are still things to learn from that system.

A project by developer and artist [1]Andrew Yaros , [2]LisaGUI is a reproduction of the LisaOS in JavaScript. As the project's [3]information page describes, it's not an emulator. This is partly because such things already exist, and the [4]source code of its software is available , but it's also partly to make it work a little better inside a browser window than an exact emulation of a 42-year-old computer.

It came to the attention of The Reg FOSS desk because Yaros just posted a blog post about [5]The Why of Lisa G. U. I. . To be honest, the blog's clever recreation of a classic MS-DOS era text user interface might well have charmed us enough to keep reading, even if we hadn't been impressed with the recreation – but both really struck us.

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As the blog post explains, there are already web-based recreations of more mainstream OSes, such as [7]Windows 93 , and the amazing [8]Infinite Mac , whose [9]ancestor MacOS9.app we described back in 2022. The Lisa, though, is much less well-known. The Reg [10]celebrated the machine's 30th birthday a dozen years ago, and that article mentions Apple's 1985 attempt to relaunch the [11]Lisa 2 as the [12]Macintosh XL . That article has a good few screenshots, and it goes some way to illustrate just how different the LisaOS was from the experimental Xerox PARC machines Apple paid to see in 1979.

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LisaGUI is the easiest way there is to play with the original graphical desktop. - Click to enlarge

The thing is, though, that most of us – even retrocomputing enthusiasts like this vulture – have never got to sit down and work with one for a while. The Lisa was so commercially unsuccessful that, as The Register [14]recounted six years ago , Apple consigned several thousands of them to a landfill in 1989. As a result, to get a little bit of a feel for how the Lisa worked, you need to play around with it: create some documents, edit some text and so on. That's where LisaGUI comes in.

The letters "OS" in the name "LisaOS", incidentally, don't stand for "operating system." It was the Lisa Office System; the computer came with a suite of what today we'd call "applications." The thing is that they're not exactly programs that you run, because the Lisa didn't work like that – which is exactly the sort of information that you can't readily extract from looking at static screenshots.

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When you double-click on a Lisa Office component, it doesn't open a program, because LisaOS tried to blur away the distinction between programs and documents. What look like app icons are little stacks of stationery templates and double-clicking one creates a new piece of that kind of stationery. You drag it somewhere to store it, and then you can work on it. This also, almost as a byproduct, means no "save" and "load" dialog boxes. Those are commands for interacting with a program, and that's not how the Lisa was intended to work: the important things were documents, not the tools that created them.

What paid for the R&D that went into the Lisa was the success of the Apple II range, which while a pioneering eight-bit micro, stuck closer to the conventions set by the minicomputers that came before it. To set it up, you inserted cards into slots, and then Apple II users had to learn about all sorts of concepts like what programs were and that you had to load them into memory and then, later, save data files from those programs onto media (cassette tapes or, for the wealthy, floppy diskettes). The same sort of concepts lay behind CP/M and then in turn MS-DOS.

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The Lisa tried to do away with such 1970s stuff. LisaOS did have multitasking, but then, it didn't exactly have programs as such. It was an attempt at something far more ambitious, as befitted the demo that the Apple techies saw – and for which Apple paid, in stock – of Xerox PARC's prototype Smalltalk system.

Of course, the snag was that, when it was launched, the Lisa cost $32,500 in today's money (slightly under £25,000), and it flopped. That's why Apple's overlapping project for a more affordable machine – the Macintosh – drew on a lot of Lisa technology, and on the [18]late Bill Atkinson 's virtuoso code, but it dispensed with many of the high-concept ideas. It had no hard disk, not much RAM, no multitasking, and it embraced simple, familiar concepts such as running programs from diskettes and saving documents – including standardized load and save dialog boxes, because there wasn't enough memory to run the Finder at the same time and have it handle that stuff.

[19]Apple iOS 26 set to dump 75M iPhones on the e-waste pile

[20]Apple's new 15% mini-app deal finally gets Tencent to cut Cupertino in

[21]Apple piles another $100B on top of previous US manufacturing pledge

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As we [23]tried to explain for its 40th anniversary , the Mac was in some ways a more conventional computer than the adventurous and experimental Lisa. That, in turn, meant that for the Mac, the developers had to invent new metaphors for how to do things rather than typing commands at prompts – such as dialog boxes, which let you navigate to a folder on a disk.

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The Mac was a radical machine in its time – but it wasn't as radical as the Lisa, just as the Lisa was nowhere near as radical as Smalltalk on a [25]Xerox Alto . But then, as Steve Jobs freely admitted in later interviews, he missed much of the significance of Xerox's demos – he was so spellbound by the graphical user interface, he didn't register the networking, or the programming language, or its object-oriented simplicity.

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Many of the ideas and designs and implementations that were new in the original Macintosh in 1984 are everywhere now: they're so ubiquitous, we don't notice them. These include dialog boxes, maximize and minimize buttons in title bars, and a clear distinction between the program you're using right now and the underlying OS. That stuff wasn't there on the Lisa – either because it wasn't needed, or because it just hadn't been invented yet.

It's not so visible in screenshots, and you need to be keen to emulate a computer you've never even seen. LisaGUI means that you don't need to: it's right there, in seconds. Have a play around. It's fun. ®

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[1] https://yaros.ae/

[2] https://lisagui.com/

[3] https://lisagui.com/info.html

[4] https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/21/apple_lisa_source_code_release/

[5] https://blog.yaros.ae/the-why-of-lisa-g-u-i/

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[7] https://www.windows93.net/

[8] https://infinitemac.org/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/09/macos9app_emulation/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2013/01/18/feature_apple_lisa_is_30/

[11] https://lowendmac.com/1984/apple-lisa-2-macintosh-xl/

[12] https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_classic/specs/mac_xl.html

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Doctor Syntax

"the Macintosh – drew on a lot of Lisa technology ... but it dispensed with many of the high-concept ideas"

You can see why Apple sent unsold Liss to landfill rather than selling them off at an affordable price.

Carnotaurus

The sad part about that landfill episode is how Apple went about doing it -- https://dailygalaxy.com/2025/04/a-man-bought-7000-apple-computers-for-resale-only-for-apple-to-take-them-back-and-crush-them/

Shows how Apple hasn't really changed much in the years since.

Dan 55

The article ends with:

However, the destruction of perfectly functional computers in the 1980s seems to contradict this modern-day eco-conscious image.

What modern-day eco-conscious image?

[1]Apple’s Recycling Program Forced Recyclers to Shred Over 530,000 Repairable iPhones

[1] https://www.ifixit.com/News/94386/the-truth-about-apples-free-iphone-recycling-program-the-earth-deserves-better

Expandable?

Chris Gray 1

Thanks for the article Liam! This old fart didn't know much about the Lisa, and had just assumed it was "conventional" in operation.

Question though: could someone other than Apple add a document kind and the code needed to handle it? If not, perhaps Apple invented the "lockin" concept before Microsoft. :/)

Jim Mitchell

the Lisa cost $32,500 in today's money (slightly under £25,000)

A comparison with what its competitors at the time cost would be useful.

Blackjack

The Commodore 64's launch price was $595 and it launched two years before the Lisa. By the time the Lisa came out the Commodore 64 had a whole lot of software and if you weren't using it you were using an IBM or by then the quire obsolete but good enough Apple ][. Simply put the Lisa was launched with the mentality of a business computer in the early 70s, very few computers or single computer for the entire business, But by 1984 what people and businesses were buying, save for big companies, was personal computers.

In other words the Apple ][ helped to kill the Lisa by showing that smaller cheaper and less powerful computers was the way to go unless you were a big corporation.

I actually used a Lisa, and I almost got one for free

billdehaan

We got one in our university lab, and everyone had the same reaction.

They said "cool", sat down and played with it for a bit. Then they got frustrated, said it was way too slow, and asked if they were doing something wrong. When people replied that "no, that's just how it is", they'd sigh, and go work on one of the two IBM PCs we had.

A few years later, I briefly worked at a Unix shop that a bunch of oddball machines. They had big iron (Siemens and Nixdorf) but they had dozens of one-offs of desktop machines few people today have heard of, like the Victor 9000 and Hyperion, to do testing. There were several PCs, a couple of Macs, some Acorns, BBC Micros, and one solitary Lisa. When the company lost its' major contract, and went belly up, people were basically told that the company was folding at the end of the week, they weren't getting paid, and there was no need to return any company assets that people had taken home to work with, they could just keep them.

The big iron was leased and would be seized, but what about the machines in the office that the company owned? The owner felt bad about not paying people, and knew that the receiver would be lucky to get 15 cents on the dollar, so he literally said "help yourself". And people did. I was the fourth person to eye the Lisa. Three others powered it up, made sure it worked, but after 15 minutes of playing with it thought the better of it. So did I. Apple had already discontinued it at that point, so there would be no new software, no improvements, and no repairs.

The guy who did eventually take it was a sailor. When we asked why he picked it, he just said " I have a boat ". I'm at least hoping he was joking that was the reason.

Re: I actually used a Lisa, and I almost got one for free

Uncle Slacky

> "I have a boat"

Hopefully he wasn't planning to use it as an anchor:

https://www.catb.org/jargon/html/B/boat-anchor.html

Newton

Zolko

wasn't that blurring between apps and documents, where there weren't any "files" per-se, also the way the Apple Newton worked ?

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