Microsoft gives Windows 11 a fresh Start - here’s how to get it
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- News link: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2025/10/29/microsofts_new_windows_start_menu/
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The original Start presents a list of shortcuts to apps and files that Windows chooses for you, and places them in a Recommended section that appears below the list of pinned apps.
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Old Windows Start menu - Click to enlarge
The new Start menu offers the ability to turn off the Recommended section.
To do so, right click anywhere in the menu, select Settings, find the Personalization options menu, then toggle off the options to Show recently added apps, Show recommended files, and Show recommendations for tips.
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Toggle off the Recommended section - Click to enlarge
If you hide the Recommended section, which we advise, a list of shortcuts to all of your apps appears in the Start menu right below your pinned shortcuts. If you don’t hide Recommended, the list of all apps appears below it.
You can show the list of apps as a grid arranged alphabetically, as a list in alphabetical order, or grouped by category. The most information-dense and comprehensive option is the grid.
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New Windows Start menu with grid view - Click to enlarge
If you don’t change to the grid, the category view appears by default.
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New Start menu with category view - Click to enlarge
How to make the new Start menu appear
To get this new Start menu, you must be running build 26100.7019 or 26200.7019 or newer versions of Windows 11. Make sure you have all the latest updates installed by going to Settings->Windows Update and clicking the Check for updates button. You can check your Windows build number by hitting Windows+R to open the run prompt and running winver .
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Invoke winver to see your Windows build number - Click to enlarge
If you have the right build number, it’s possible that the new Start menu will appear on its own. But, if not, you can use the ViveTool, a utility that enables hidden Windows features, to turn it on.
First, [6]download the ViveTool and unzip it to C:\vive. Then open a command prompt as an administrator and change into that directory. cd c:\vive
Finally, issue the following command: vivetool /enable /id:57048231,47205210,56328729,48433719
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Use the ViveTool to enable the new Start menu - Click to enlarge
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After a restart, the new Start menu should appear as soon as you click on the Start button. ®
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[8] https://www.theregister.com/2025/08/16/microsoft_windows_features_help_productivity/
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[10] https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/24/microsoft_clippy_copilot_update/
[11] https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/20/windows_11_more_dark_mode_dialogs/
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Wow! I'm so glad I've not got Win 11. I'm on Win 10, with the extended updates thingie, and I have a proper start menu.
Hold that thar pig steady
I got me some real purty lipstick fer it.
Tarnation, it's still a piggie. Hmmm, kinda purty though.
Hey, what you lookin' at me like that for, Jethro,?
Re: Hold that thar pig steady
"Hey, what you lookin' at me like that for, Jethro,?"
"Well fer shore y'did a real nice job with that thur lipstick, Cletus, but I reckon it was s'posed to go on the oinky end of the pig..."
Re: Hold that thar pig steady
" Hey, what you lookin' at me like that for, Jethro,? "
"Uncle Jed, aint cousin Ellie purty enough ?"
"Hell no, Jethro! Ellie's growed and runs too fast."
Recommened section
The new Start menu offers the ability to turn off the Recommended section.
Why would I want a Recommened section at all? I use the bloody thing to do certain tasks, as and when I decide - I don't want a stupid algorithm second guessing or acting on whatever agenda Satya and his minions think I should be following.
Just restore the Windows 7 or 10 Start Menu and re-direct the the whole Windows 11 "UX" team to doing something useful like reverting Notepad to a basic text editor that it was, with a menu that could be operated via the keyboard.
Microsoft loves constant change for the sake of change...
...and if this year's change subtracts value and makes things worse then, oh well, it's more change!
Recently, I was looking back on the first version of Apple OS X (now macOS) released about 20 years ago. Settings management has been completely remade (to make it consistent with IOS / iPadOS) and scrollbars are hidden by default (because every company has to do at least one outrageously stupid thing), but other than that most of the core UI functionality is more or less the same. The presentation is much fancier (especially with Tahoe and Liquid Glass) and the applications themselves have evolved a great deal, but on a UI level it would take almost no effort for a person to transition from the first release of OS X to macOS 26. Menus work the same way, applications are in the same place, etc. Well, as long as you un-hide the scrollbars.
There's nothing wrong with taking a solid interface design and just sticking with it.
I have a question
Windows 11? Is that some kind of operating system?
The problem
Isn't the major problem with the Windows 11 start menu that it isn't the Windows 7 start menu?
Start me up
And that’s just the beginning of it…
Re: Start me up
As I've observed before, Start Me Up was an inspired choice of theme-music for the Windows 95 launch, if only for the line of the lyrics they inexplicably didn't use: "You make a grown man cry..."
And I guess a prescient nod to the power-management problems that plagued older versions of Windows, and [1]continue to affect even the new ASUS Xbox Ally handheld ... "If you start me up I'll never stop / I've been running hot..."
[1] https://games.slashdot.org/story/25/10/29/1739232/windows-is-the-problem-with-windows-handhelds
Open-Shell ?
[1]Open-Shell claims to support Win11.
Her indoors is easily confused by any changes to UI so I have used Classic Shell and Open Shell on her Windows PC over several Win versions just to keep things simple and looking the same. Currently on extended support Win10 (down from Win7 :)
Finally got her using a proper MUA on her tablet and PC (Betterbird) rather than GMail in a browser and resultant Google crap.
[1] https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/
And somehow Micro$oft marketing will make this a wonderful new feature
When that same marketing team has drug the Windows desktop into the ditch since Windows 7. They should be congratulated for making a lot of customers look for another platform.