Terminators: AI-driven robot war machines on the march
(2025/09/12)
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Opinion I've read military science fiction since I was a kid. Besides the likes of Robert A. Heinlein's [1]Starship Troopers , Joe Haldeman's [2]The Forever War , and David Drake's [3]Hammer's Slammers books, where people held the lead roles, I read novels such as Keith Laumer's [4]Bolo series and Fred Saberhagen's Berserker space opera sf series, where machines are the protagonists and enemies. Even if you've never read war science fiction, you certainly at least know about Terminators. But what was once science fiction is now reality on the Ukrainian battlefields. It won't stop there.
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You see, war always accelerates technology's advances. After Russia invaded Ukraine, Ukraine first took drone technology from expensive gear to cheaply made [6]drones that are literally made from cardboard . As the battles continued, both Russia and Ukraine have countered each other's drones by [7]interfering with GPS and jamming the wireless bandwidth used to control the drones.
As a result, both sides have taken to using [8]fiber optic drones , which are unjammable. They're not perfect. You can follow the fiber optic cable back to their controllers, their range is limited to about 20 kilometers, and they are being countered by nets being put up around roads and important sites.
So Ukraine has been working hard on the next logical step of drone warfare: AI-driven drones. It is far from the first. If you try to cross the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ), you might be stopped by a [9]South Korean SGR-A1 sentry robot , which is armed with a K-3 machine gun and 40mm automatic grenade launcher. These static robots have been deployed since 2010.
Israel has also been pushing forward with a variety of AI-driven war machines such as the [10]Harpy and [11]Harop , loitering munitions; and the six-wheeled RoBattle. The US has also been retrofitting its [12]MQ-9 Reaper and [13]XQ-58 Valkyrie drones with AI, while the experimental [14]Longshot comes with AI built-in. And, sorry Top Gun fans, but Maverick won't be able to beat [15]VENOM AI-equipped F16s fighter planes when they're finally deployed.
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In the meantime, though, Ukraine has taken the next step and is using AI-powered swarms of drones to attack the Russian military. With these [17]Swarmer drones , according to the company's CEO Serhii Kupriienko “ [18]You set the target and the drones do the rest . They work together, they adapt.”
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These systems are under human control. We set their missions, we tell them what their parameters are. But they won't stay that way. Just like everything else AI, we want the AI to do the work, while we just give the chatbot general goals. We don't want to worry about the details. That's a mistake, whether you're just trying to [21]vibe your way to being a 10x programmer or get a robot to shoot an enemy.
Say, for example, you told an AI that China was going to invade Taiwan and asked it to plan what to do next to "win" the situation. Oh wait! What's this? The Hoover Wargaming and Crisis Simulation Initiative at Stanford University tried exactly that and the group found that OpenAI’s GPT-3.5, GPT-4, and GPT-4-Base; Anthropic's Claude 2; and Meta’s Llama-2 Chat were all [22]trigger-happy aggressors .
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Sure, we can keep a human in the loop, right? But, will we? The US [24]Department of Defense (DoD) directive 3000.09 on AI weapons systems [PDF] insists that "appropriate levels of human judgment over the use of force" are required in any deployment. However, if there's an urgent need, such as PLA paratroopers dropping in on Taipei, the DoD can decide to let the AI systems run the show without human intervention. That's the kind of thinking that might first lead to the US nuking Xiamen, the closest PRC city to Taiwan, and then World War III.
[25]AI web crawlers are destroying websites in their never-ending hunger for any and all content
[26]The air is hissing out of the overinflated AI balloon
[27]Are you willing to pay $100k a year per developer on AI?
[28]Some signs of AI model collapse begin to reveal themselves
[29]The launch of ChatGPT polluted the world forever, like the first atomic weapons tests
We also know that [30]AI has a bad way of "lying" to us when its assigned or programmed goal conflicts with your requests. In fact, when [31]AI plays games , especially ones like [32]poker and Diplomacy, where bluffing is a big part of how you win, chatbots will cheerfully lie to you. In the real world, the fog of war also lends itself to situations where misrepresenting your intentions can be a winning strategy.
They're also perfectly capable of attacking people. Just ask the folks at Anthopic, who discovered in an experiment that Claude 4.0, when faced with a threat, often tried to [33]blackmail people .
So, let's say, we have mobile AI-enabled sentry robots tasked with patrolling a city for criminals. Further, the people in charge of the robots tell them that brown people should be regarded with suspicion and that the crime rate must be brought down by 10 percent by the end of the week. What will a platoon of robots with M-16 rifles do about the Latin/Indian/Arab/Black/Jewish protestors at city hall with those instructions?
I wish this were still science fiction. I want to believe that, like Matthew Broderick in War Games , we could convince AI not to automate its human parents' worst impulses. Instead, I'm sure we'll soon see AI drones and armed robots killing innocents. After all, we do. ®
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[14] https://www.darpa.mil/research/programs/longshot
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[30] https://www.lti.cs.cmu.edu/news-and-events/news/2025-06-26-ai-liedar.html
[31] https://www.sciencealert.com/ai-has-already-become-a-master-of-lies-and-deception-scientists-warn
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'Slow AI' needed to stop autonomous weapons making humans worse [5]READ MORE
You see, war always accelerates technology's advances. After Russia invaded Ukraine, Ukraine first took drone technology from expensive gear to cheaply made [6]drones that are literally made from cardboard . As the battles continued, both Russia and Ukraine have countered each other's drones by [7]interfering with GPS and jamming the wireless bandwidth used to control the drones.
As a result, both sides have taken to using [8]fiber optic drones , which are unjammable. They're not perfect. You can follow the fiber optic cable back to their controllers, their range is limited to about 20 kilometers, and they are being countered by nets being put up around roads and important sites.
So Ukraine has been working hard on the next logical step of drone warfare: AI-driven drones. It is far from the first. If you try to cross the Korean Demilitarized Zone (DMZ), you might be stopped by a [9]South Korean SGR-A1 sentry robot , which is armed with a K-3 machine gun and 40mm automatic grenade launcher. These static robots have been deployed since 2010.
Israel has also been pushing forward with a variety of AI-driven war machines such as the [10]Harpy and [11]Harop , loitering munitions; and the six-wheeled RoBattle. The US has also been retrofitting its [12]MQ-9 Reaper and [13]XQ-58 Valkyrie drones with AI, while the experimental [14]Longshot comes with AI built-in. And, sorry Top Gun fans, but Maverick won't be able to beat [15]VENOM AI-equipped F16s fighter planes when they're finally deployed.
[16]
In the meantime, though, Ukraine has taken the next step and is using AI-powered swarms of drones to attack the Russian military. With these [17]Swarmer drones , according to the company's CEO Serhii Kupriienko “ [18]You set the target and the drones do the rest . They work together, they adapt.”
[19]
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These systems are under human control. We set their missions, we tell them what their parameters are. But they won't stay that way. Just like everything else AI, we want the AI to do the work, while we just give the chatbot general goals. We don't want to worry about the details. That's a mistake, whether you're just trying to [21]vibe your way to being a 10x programmer or get a robot to shoot an enemy.
Say, for example, you told an AI that China was going to invade Taiwan and asked it to plan what to do next to "win" the situation. Oh wait! What's this? The Hoover Wargaming and Crisis Simulation Initiative at Stanford University tried exactly that and the group found that OpenAI’s GPT-3.5, GPT-4, and GPT-4-Base; Anthropic's Claude 2; and Meta’s Llama-2 Chat were all [22]trigger-happy aggressors .
[23]
Sure, we can keep a human in the loop, right? But, will we? The US [24]Department of Defense (DoD) directive 3000.09 on AI weapons systems [PDF] insists that "appropriate levels of human judgment over the use of force" are required in any deployment. However, if there's an urgent need, such as PLA paratroopers dropping in on Taipei, the DoD can decide to let the AI systems run the show without human intervention. That's the kind of thinking that might first lead to the US nuking Xiamen, the closest PRC city to Taiwan, and then World War III.
[25]AI web crawlers are destroying websites in their never-ending hunger for any and all content
[26]The air is hissing out of the overinflated AI balloon
[27]Are you willing to pay $100k a year per developer on AI?
[28]Some signs of AI model collapse begin to reveal themselves
[29]The launch of ChatGPT polluted the world forever, like the first atomic weapons tests
We also know that [30]AI has a bad way of "lying" to us when its assigned or programmed goal conflicts with your requests. In fact, when [31]AI plays games , especially ones like [32]poker and Diplomacy, where bluffing is a big part of how you win, chatbots will cheerfully lie to you. In the real world, the fog of war also lends itself to situations where misrepresenting your intentions can be a winning strategy.
They're also perfectly capable of attacking people. Just ask the folks at Anthopic, who discovered in an experiment that Claude 4.0, when faced with a threat, often tried to [33]blackmail people .
So, let's say, we have mobile AI-enabled sentry robots tasked with patrolling a city for criminals. Further, the people in charge of the robots tell them that brown people should be regarded with suspicion and that the crime rate must be brought down by 10 percent by the end of the week. What will a platoon of robots with M-16 rifles do about the Latin/Indian/Arab/Black/Jewish protestors at city hall with those instructions?
I wish this were still science fiction. I want to believe that, like Matthew Broderick in War Games , we could convince AI not to automate its human parents' worst impulses. Instead, I'm sure we'll soon see AI drones and armed robots killing innocents. After all, we do. ®
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[6] https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/07/corvo_cardboard_drone/
[7] https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/29/satellite_navigation_jamming_now_a/
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[13] https://www.kratosdefense.com/unmanned-systems/air/uncrewed-tactical-aircraft/xq-58a
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Re: We're not going to make it, are we
Dan 55
[1]Don't Create the Torment Nexus!
[1] https://nitter.net/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538
There's this gem about "parenting"
Joe W
A german author, actor, "comedian" (that's severely shortselling him) once remarked that "Erziehung ist sinnols, die Kinder machen einem ohnehin alles nach." - education / parenting is a waste of time, the kids will follow your (implied: bad) example anyway. (Vicco von Buelow known as Loriot).
Same with AI. It will just follow our bad examples if we train it on our behaviour. This works as expected, and maybe even intended.
Yeah, sucks. Sometimes I would rather be back in the 1980s, no cell phones, internet, mass surveillance (except in certain countries), only the impeding danger of total nuclear war, and Central Europe would have been bombed both by the Russkies and the Yanks, read about how NATO planned to stop attacks through the Fulda Gap.
Jeff Smith
There is a great deal of focus on the potential for AI to take over and kill us all, which is a valid concern.
Surely a far more pressing and likely scenario is that small groups of individuals in positions of power use AI as the ultimate tool of oppression. This is much under-discussed.
Given what history tells us about what happens when people wield unassailable power over others It might be preferable to put an AI in charge and hope it’s benevolent.
Hold on a moment
Anonymous Coward
Now I'm not saying autonomous weapons systems aren't a potential or even current problem - especially not with AI hype merchants looking to shoehorn those two little letters in to any old shit to make a quick buck - but no-one serious is chucking an LLM onto a gun platform.
Yes, there are plenty of target recognition & classification models that have come from what used to be called optimisation or machine learning and more and more similar techniques are being put into production.
Splashing the 'AI' paint on everything autonomous isn't helping the debate.
Anon because day job.
Maverick won't be able to beat VENOM AI-equipped F16s fighter planes
Simon Harris
But only after they've downloaded all the songs from the web.
We're not going to make it, are we
People I mean