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Ex-Meta exec: Copyright consent obligation = end of AI biz

(2025/05/27)


Former British deputy PM and Meta apologist Sir Nick Clegg says that forcing AI companies to ask for the permission of copyright holders before using their content would destroy the AI industry overnight.

Clegg, who served as deputy to David Cameron in a Conservative / Lib Dem coalition that governed the UK between 2010 and 2015 before moving to Zuckcorp as president of global policy affairs, told the audience at a literary festival that demands to make tech firms seek consent from creators before using copyrighted material to train AI models were unworkable.

Any such laws would "basically kill the AI industry in this country overnight," Clegg claimed, according to [1]The Times .

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This month, members of the House of Lords, the UK's upper chamber of Parliament, voted in in favor of [3]amendments to the proposed Data (Use and Access) Bill that would have protected copyrighted work from simply being copied by AI companies.

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However, government ministers used an arcane parliamentary procedure to [6]block the amendment , which would have required tech firms to reveal what copyright material has been used to train their models.

Clegg [7]stepped down from his role as president of global affairs at Facebook parent company Meta at the start of this year. He was speaking at the Charleston Festival in East Sussex in order to plug [8]a book he has coming out , How to Save the Internet: the Threat to Global Connection in the Age of AI and Political Conflict .

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The former politician seemed confused over the issue of AI and copyright, agreeing when questioned that people ought to be able to opt out of having their work copied and used for model training.

But he then reportedly said that "quite a lot of voices say 'you can only train on my content, [if you] first ask.' And I have to say that strikes me as somewhat implausible because these systems train on vast amounts of data." He added: "I just don't know how you go around, asking everyone first. I just don't see how that would work. And by the way if you did it in Britain and no one else did it, you would basically kill the AI industry in this country overnight."

So which is it, Mr Clegg? Do creators have the right to opt out or not? Because asking their permission after the fact is self-defeating. And admitting that the AI business model is dead unless LLM trainers are allowed to break the law doesn't sound like much of an argument.

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That Clegg should side with the UK government and big business interests is probably not surprising considering his background. The Tony Blair Institute, founded by the former Prime Minister, also came out in favor of [11]exceptions to copyright rules for developers training AI models.

[12]Irish privacy watchdog OKs Meta to train AI on EU folks' posts

[13]Microsoft Copilot shows up even when it's not wanted

[14]A win at last: Big blow to AI world in training data copyright scrap

[15]Why is Big Tech hellbent on making AI opt-out?

[16]Actors' union complains about Epic Games cloning Darth Vader

This is despite many of the UK's leading media and arts professionals [17]speaking out against the data access bill , including playwright Tom Stoppard, [18]Dr Who producer Russell T Davies, and a [19]slew of musicians such as Elton John, Paul McCartney, Kate Bush and Robbie Williams.

The big AI companies haven't been waiting for permission so far, with a recent [20]study finding that OpenAI mined copyright-protected content in order to train its GPT family of models, for example.

Baroness Kidron, who proposed the Lords amendments, said: "How AI is developed and who it benefits are two of the most important questions of our time." She warned the UK creative industries "must not be sacrificed to the interests of a handful of US tech companies."

The UK government, for one, has made AI a central plank of its plans for economic revival of the country, as detailed in the [21]AI Opportunities Action Plan published earlier this year. This includes setting up "AI Growth Zones" with [22]streamlined planning processes that allow developers to override both local authorities and the concerns of local communities when siting massive new AI datacenters.

There are alternatives: last month, we reported on a [23]new licensing model that aims to let developers of large language models (LLMs) use copyrighted training data while paying the publishers for the privilege.

It isn't only the UK where formerly sacrosanct copyright protection is being shredded in favor of AI developers: every nation fears being left behind in some kind of tech arms race. Just recently, it was reported that the [24]head of the US Copyright Office was sacked , just after the agency concluded that AI developers' use of copyrighted material went beyond existing doctrines of fair use. ®

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[1] https://www.thetimes.com/uk/technology-uk/article/nick-clegg-work-train-ai-l6xl5djb7

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[3] https://ppa.co.uk/lords-vote-in-favour-of-amendments-to-protect-copyrighted-works-from-ai-companies

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[6] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/may/14/uk-ministers-to-block-amendment-requiring-ai-firms-to-declare-use-of-copyrighted-content

[7] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/03/nick_clegg_meta/

[8] https://x.com/nickclegg/status/1925233628964884807

[9] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/aiml&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44aDXhlFU4pQx-mygyLklrdQAAAdE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[10] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/aiml&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33aDXhlFU4pQx-mygyLklrdQAAAdE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/03/blair_institute_ai_copyright/

[12] https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/22/irish_data_protection_commission_gives/

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/18/microsoft_copilot_not_wanted/

[14] https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/12/thomson_reuters_wins_ai_copyright/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/23/why_is_ai_optout/

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/20/actors_union_darth_vader_epic/

[17] https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/12/uk_creatives_ai_letter/

[18] https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006q2x0

[19] https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/12/uk_creatives_ai_letter/

[20] https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/03/openai_copyright_bypass/

[21] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/13/uk_government_ai_plans/

[22] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/13/uk_datacenter_planning_rules/

[23] https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/24/uk_publishing_body_launches_ai/

[24] https://www.theregister.com/2025/05/12/us_copyright_office_ai_copyright/

[25] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



So the psychopath CEO's DO know...

Mentat74

They just don't care because they want to make more money...

b0llchit

Yes, we, the rich people, are not bound by the rules of the plebs. We own it all because, well, we are entitled to have it all. Who are you plebs to tell us, rich masters, to do otherwise? Now get out of our ways and be silent. We, the rich, will tell you what you are allowed. But let there be no doubt, we, the rich, we own it all and you live by the mercy of us, the rich, who tell you to be silent and obedient.

/s

beast666

The majority of Reg commentards are thoroughly confused so I conclude they cannot help very much.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Doctor Syntax

The corollary seems to be that as copyright law is well established the AI industry shouldn't exist. I'm with Nick.

Innocent Meta

Omnipresent

"I can' be a super criminal if you don't let me commit super crime!"

It is so tiresome having to obey rules

alain williams

My business would fare much better if I did not need to:

• send annual accounts to the Inland Revenue and pay tax

• insure my vehicles

• get planning permission before erecting that new office

• dispose of waste properly rather than just dumping it up some lane

• ...

These rules are all part of the contract of social cohesion, to ensure that we all play our part to mutual benefit.

Why should AI be exempt from this ?

A basic filter as an extension to robots.txt would be simple to implement and tell the AI spiders what they could/could-not take for free or what/how-to-pay fee needed; how they could use said content. Although I doubt that most would follow this even if it were written into law.

SnailFerrous

Any attempt to make us ask permission before taking people's valuables will destroy the piracy and privateering industry overnight.

All those unemployed shoulder sitting parrots will be entirely your fault.

What they're actually saying .....

KittenHuffer

..... is that 'everyone else' is doing it, and if we don't let businesses in the UK do it then they'll just leave for somewhere that will let them do it. And they're worried that AI might actually work, and be this incredible thing that a country needs to be able to succeed, and that the risk to their wallets .... I mean, the UK economy means that they're going to let it happen even though they know it is wrong.

What a bunch of lying, cheating, stealing, scumbag politicians. But then I repeat myself!

But my bank robbing business would shut down

John Robson

if I wasn't allowed to rob banks...

Andy 73

"Former British deputy PM and Meta apologist Sir Nick Clegg says that forcing AI companies to ask for the permission of copyright holders before using their content would destroy the AI industry overnight."

You could stop there, and we could all just reply "Good". End of story.

If, as Clegg suggests, the information that I have created and is mine by copyright is so valuable that without it these companies cannot retain their multi-billion dollar valuations (despite near zero revenue), then they should pay me for it. Or at the very least, I should have the right to decide what is done with my (valuable) property.

It really is that simple.

It's also worth noting there is a list going round online of the MPs who voted for Starmer's AI giveaway bill. With only a couple of exceptions, every single one of them is a Labour MP. Don't be fooled for a moment that your rights are being signed away by some single nefarious individual - the entire party is abandoning it's duty to the people it represents because some ex-NFT salesmen are telling them that this constitutes an economic policy.

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