BOFH: HR tries to think appy thoughts
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If only I'd thought of it myself.
I mean, the Company has a fair amount of A already, so all we really need to do is account for the staggering lack of I. The cherry on the cake would be if someone were to suggest...
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"What we need now is a brainstorming session," the Boss suggests.
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Jinxed it.
"I'd just like to highlight that there are no stupid suggestions," the Boss says, seizing the mediator role.
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"Just stupid people," the PFY adds, to nip any ambiguity in the bud.
"And to be sure that everyone's on board with this session," the Boss says, "I'd ask that you'd set your phones to silent and then put them in the tray at the back of the room."
That particular request has rocked the boat, as I'm fairly sure half the assembled IT/beancounter crowd were looking forward to completing their Wordles.
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"We should have an app," one of the HR minions says, before anyone's had a chance to settle into phonelessness.
"For our phones," another adds, in case there's someone who doesn't know what an app is.
"Great idea!" I gasp, pretending to take notes. "What would the app do?"
"Oh, just stuff for the Company."
"Who would use the app?" I ask, pen poised for the next pearl from the string of wisdom.
"All the staff."
"What about contractors?" I ask, feigning further enthusiasm.
"Sure."
"And couriers?" I continue.
"Why would couriers need the app?"
"It depends on what the app does. If it just tells the user that they're late for work, then it's no use to couriers, but if it could tell whether a recipient were in the building or not, maybe it would be useful."
"Not for couriers," the HR guy decides.
"Fair enough. So, we have an app that does something, and staff and contractors can use it. Would all staff use it?"
"They could."
"Would they have to use it?" one of the support staff – who moonlights as a civil liberties enthusiast – asks.
"I shouldn't think so?"
"We want the app to be nice to use," another of the HR crowd says. "We thought it would help if we gamified it."
"Gamified it?" I ask in gushy, pseudo-enthusiastic tones.
"Yes. Like, say the app could talk to your rubbish bin. And when you threw something in the bin you got a point for getting it in the bin, and you could collect points into a 'streak' for how many things you consecutively got in the bin without missing. That way, the office would be tidier and putting things in the bin would be fun."
"And what would you call the bin?" I ask.
"What do you mean?"
"Well, you couldn't just call it a bin – you'd need to give it a fancy name to indicate it was smart."
"You mean like an eBin, or an iBin?" he asks.
"eBin," I reply, "as the Mac TV is prior art for iBin. So, we have our eBin, but wouldn't this just encourage people to leave their desks to be nearer to the bin – and thereby lower productivity?"
"No, because the app could tell how far you were away."
"Right. So would I get more points if I left the office and threw it into my bin from a nearby office?"
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"Why would there be more points?"
"Because it would require more skill to get it in from further away. It would be more enjoyable to reward skill."
"No, you'd have to be in your office," the HR guy says firmly.
"What about rebounds? Would there be points if, say, I bounced it off an office mate's head into the bin."
"No."
"It's not much of a game," I observe.
"The bin idea was just an example. We could do other things. We could gamify other things."
"Well, on that thought," the Boss says, "why don't we split into small groups and each group come up with, say, five things that we could use an app for in the Company? And, if you like, maybe ways of gamifying the app to make the experience enjoyable for users."
Small groups form almost immediately, but for some reason no group seems to be enthusiastic about inviting the PFY and myself to join them. Not only that, but the groups quickly become circles of inward-facing chairs to protect the emerging ideas from prying ears.
Not disheartened by this, the PFY and I form our own small group away from all the others as the discussions go on.
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"And how did we go?" the Boss asks, ten minutes later, after calling the groups back together.
A torrent of app suggestions surges forth from each group – some to do with integrating the cafeteria menu so that people can choose their future lunches, some to do with parking, and others just about office cleanliness and supply levels.
"Well, they all sound great!" the Boss burbles happily. "Simon, Stephen – what did you come up with?"
"Ah, we didn't actually get around to thinking of any new apps," I admit. "And I think we'd like to roll back our lack of enthusiasm for the eBin idea – as it turns out to be quite addictive."
"So, you like the idea now?" the original proponent asks smugly.
"We do. And you're right, a streak is a lot of fun – even without extra skill requirements."
"And how did you figure that out?" the Boss asks.
"Well, we spent the last ten minutes tossing mobile phones into the skip across the road," I say. "SO much fun."
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Re: Once again, the BOFH wins hands down
If they survived... (the phones, or the HR people? Well...)
Re: Once again, the BOFH wins hands down
HP people? That sounds a bit saucy for the office...
Re: Once again, the BOFH wins hands down
your comment was just in time for me to fix it, thanks.
But also: could be worst, could be HP or HPE people in the office. Then there will be a half hour wait while they get to a useable state ;)
(No, I haven't ben diagnosing a HP server and having to reboot a lot with their ultra fast UEFI.. why do you ask...)
Re: Once again, the BOFH wins hands down
> And I'm sure all the HR people are absolutely overjoyed at the idea of having to go into a trash bin to get their phones back.
They were skipping with joy!
Re: Once again, the BOFH wins hands down
Knowing Simon, it was pickup day for the skip, and he & the PFY finished their game just in time.
> A torrent of app suggestions surges forth from each group – some to do with integrating the cafeteria menu
My former employer wasted a huge amount of time/money on apps, one of the only useful ones was the cafeteria menu (the other was site maps).
Also: all websites of all universities at the moment.
What I need: where is the building I need to go to? Where can I get a coffee if I'm early? How do I get there? Where is the department of $(fieldofinterest)?
What I get: "oooh, we are so great, the greatest university, look at the shiny pictures of our students, and by the way, we won a prize for (whatever) - now scroll down to even get shown a menue..."
Pointless apps
money on apps, one of the only useful ones was the cafeteria menu
That there is a great example of the "Could this app just a simple web page?" debate
"HR tries to think appy thoughts"
The first four words pretty scotch whatever follows.
No accident that for the more discerning gamey is a euphemism for putrid and presumably gamify to mean putrify.
I had never picked up that the PFY was baptised Stephen.
Tossing the tossers' phones into the skip brilliant. Incorrectly entering the screen lock pin or pattern etc to require the puk beforehand would be icing.
Re: "HR tries to think appy thoughts"
Look at the story when he enters into the BoFH's service... should be about 10 or 20 years ago, might still be in the BOFH archives on this site, I think he was related to "uncle Brian" (not going to spoil which Brian). He is "Y" no longer...
Re: "HR tries to think appy thoughts"
Looked at the oldest BOFH-story on ElReg. The PFY is in it. The story dates from 2000
Which is 25 years ago.
Which makes me feel old (I might be old, but there's no reason to actually _feel_ old, innit?)
Edit: found it.
http://www.bofharchive.com/1996/bastard96-03.html
1996.
The PFY could have been in his twenties then. Now he is thirty years older (yeah, time does not work that way in stories, I know).
Re: "HR tries to think appy thoughts"
BOFH predates its time in The Register, you can read Simon's history [1]here .
Edit: Just seen your edit :-)
[1] http://bofharchive.com/BOFH-Prehistory.html
Re: "HR tries to think appy thoughts"
1996 is when the PFY was introduced if I recall. Blimey that seems a long time ago!
Gamification
Imagine an idea where the more you work, the more money you get paid. That would be neat!
Re: Gamification
Would probably reduce the traffic here at el'Reg considerably
Re: Gamification
What? Reading ElReg is work!
Enjoy the weekend!
Stop doing this
Every time Simon seems to be transcribing a meeting/shitstorming session that I have sat through I get a crick in my neck from nodding along. The older I get, the more it hurts.
Genuine...
For context most of our sales are to quote, we don't have web ordering and at the time several of our customers had only just progressed to sending orders by Fax!
Director: The board have decided we must have an app!
Me: What do you want it to do?
Director: Help the customers! You know, datasheets and stuff.
Me: So basically repeat what's already on the website?
Director: Er, umm, probably.
I go away and do some very brief research.
Me: It'll cost a minimum of £15,000 per platform, and there are three separate platforms* to provide for.
Director:
That's the last I heard of the idea!
*Windows Mobile was still a thing.
Once again, the BOFH wins hands down
And I'm sure all the HR people are absolutely overjoyed at the idea of having to go into a trash bin to get their phones back.
Don't mess with the BOFH. You'll always regret it.
If you survive, that is . . .