Boeing's Starliner may fly again, pending fixes to literally everything
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The CST-100 Starliner capsule returned to Earth last year with its tail between its legs. It was the capsule's first crewed mission, but the flight was dogged with issues, including problems with thrusters. Managers eventually decided that the safest course of action was to leave the crew on the International Space Station (ISS).
The vehicle made a successful landing without a crew, and in the months since, NASA and Boeing tried to work out what went wrong and how to fix it.
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[2]According to NASA, "more than 70 percent of flight observations and flight anomalies" have been closed. However, the space agency noted that "the major in-flight propulsion system anomalies Starliner experienced in orbit are expected to remain open further into 2025."
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Neither NASA nor Boeing responded to a request from The Register regarding what that "more than 70 percent" actually was. Perhaps sticky cupholders?
The issues that caused the most consternation during June's crewed mission were related to the thrusters and leaky helium seals. NASA and Boeing are planning a campaign of tests through spring and summer, which will include firing key Starliner thrusters within a single service module doghouse.
[5]Boeing's Starliner future uncertain as NASA weighs next steps
[6]Starliner astronauts' stay drags on as Crew-10 launch scrubs
[7]SpaceX Crew Dragons swapped so ISS crew can go home early
[8]Boeing, Boeing, burned: Over half a billion dollars by Starliner in 2024
The "doghouse" is the housing for the Reaction Control System (RCS) thrusters on Starliner's service module.
Engineers plan to use the testing to validate thermal models as well as upgrades to the system. One upgrade will involve adding thermal barriers within the doghouse to regulate temperatures better. The in-flight thruster pulse profiles will also be tweaked to prevent overheating.
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Several new helium system seal options are also being tested to mitigate the risk of future leaks.
All of this is aimed toward crew certification of the CST-100 Starliner system. NASA said: "Mission managers are planning for the next Starliner flight to be a crew capable post-certification mission, and NASA also has the capability of flying only cargo depending on the needs of the agency."
We've asked NASA and Boeing to indicate who exactly would be paying for the next flight.
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If managers are working on the assumption that the next mission will be post-certification, it seems unlikely that another test flight will be requested unless something arises during testing. The program has already cost Boeing more than $2 billion, and beancounters at the aerospace giant will want to staunch the flow of cash. ®
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NASA and Boeing have both responded to The Register's questions.
Boeing told us it had nothing more to share at this time. A NASA spokesperson directed us to Boeing for the inflight anomalies list "since it is their spacecraft."
The NASA spokesperson continued, "As to the next flight, there are a number of elements that will be decided before the details of the flight will be laid out. Steve Stich [Program Manager for NASA's Commercial Crew Program] noted that it will involve a crew-capable spacecraft, regardless of whether it carries crew or only cargo.
"That means that the spacecraft will launch with the systems active that would be needed for a crewed mission. Whether or not astronauts will be aboard has not been decided yet nor has the exact timeline.
"The teams are continuing to work on certification and we will release more information on that as it develops."
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Who pays?
People who know stuff are suggesting the reflight will be cargo only and paid for by NASA (so letting Boeing off the financial hook) due to the next Cygnus freighter having been dropped or otherwise bent out of shape sufficiently to make it currently unflyable. That leaves a big hole in the resupply schedule, so an extra cargo flight is more use than a crew exchange.
Re: Who pays?
Funny, I thought exactly that as I was reading the article and got to "whether it carries crew or only cargo."
They'd better get that F-47 bill passed soon because Republicans are losing every congressional by-election being called since the Great Pumpkin was elected. And I approve that message.
It's appropriate that [1]this article shows the F-47 emerging from a mist because so far it's vaporware. It's utterly inconceivable to me that a next-generation fighter will be crewed. The speed at which AI is developing suggests that the Chinese, at the very least, will have an uncrewed 6th-generation fighter, which means it will utterly outclass crewed fighters in terms of both reaction time and maneuverability.
Furthermore, if you look at the [2]Boeing X-32 , which is the plane that lost out to the precursor to the F-35, it looks like someone rendered the MiG-21 in Minecraft. How the hell did Boeing wind up with this contract?
So much for draining the swamp, eh Fat Boy?
[1] https://theaviationist.com/2025/03/22/everything-we-know-boeing-f-47-ngad/
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-32
The 80/20 rule comes to mind here. The last 20% of defects will take 80% of the time to remediate. But that's ok because someone in Boeing has a PowerPoint showing that they are at 80% completion and thus on track to finish on time and budget (the new budget). Next slide please. Now here I am showing you some swamp land in Florida for sale..............
Whether or not astronauts will be aboard has not been decided yet
I certainly won't be!
"Only an idiot would do that!"
"And I have the very idiot you need. [calls loudly] Eccles!"
Re: Whether or not astronauts will be aboard has not been decided yet
...
Eccles: "yup."
Neddy Seagoon: "Eccles, You see that truck over there that everyone is keeping clear of?"
Eccles: "Err, yup, yup, yup yup."
Seagoon: "I want you to drive it back to London. ... Gently."
Eccles: "Okay, Okay."
FX sound of truck engine starting, gears engaging, driving off followed by massive explosion.
Eccles: "A good job I wasn't in it."
Seagoon: "You weren't in it? Then who was driving?"
Bluebottle: "You filthy rotten swine ..."
(The best I can remember from the Goon Show 'The Fear of Wages'.)
Re: Whether or not astronauts will be aboard has not been decided yet
"He's fallen in the water!" - Little Jim
Pigs in spaaaaace!!!
What are the odds Boeing walks away from this entirely now they've secured that sweet sweet F-47 government money. Take the money and run.
Pork barrel politics at work