It used to a phenomenon whereby unappreciated UK scientists moved to the US for better pay and opportunities. How the tide is starting to turn.

The idea that there's going to be a brain drain from the US to France, of all places, is simply laughable.

If you hadn't realised it already, Europe is broke, has horrendous energy prices and is just about to embark on a ludicrous military funding drive to "confront" Russian aggression.

What exactly do you think's going to happen to all the money earmarked for les queer studies ?

All those transgender mice, eh?

The idea that your comment has any basis in reality is simply laughable.

Good use of "scare quotes" though, shows how "intelligent" your post was.

The idea that your comment has any basis in reality is simply laughable.

So energy prices in Europe are low and European economies are just A-OK, are they?

Please explain where the money for defense is going to come from exactly? Also, Europe is currently years away from ramping up military production - the infrastructure simply doesn't exist. You know what that means? The Europeans will be buying US made weapons for their quixotic Ukrainian adventure and helping to bolster the military industrial complex across the Atlantic in the process!

You can continue to bury your head in the sand, but these are the facts, I'm afraid!

Obv. Russian troll.

it seems that you have missed a small fact called... France. (the article is about France)

France doesn't buy US made Military stuff ( except a few M240 and 4 E-3F and a few E-2C, that were paid for decades ago. ).

France develop and build it's own military equipment.

France also has a low electricity price (compared to the rest of Europe) thanks to the 70%+ nuclear production.

Now France economy could be better, there's a few mammoth that needs to be unfattened in the administration, but it's nothing new.

As for scientific equipment, France as ITER being built just north of Aix/Marseille.

You have the LHC in Geneva (it is also partially under France)

and many more

"Queer canine becomings: Lesbian feminist cyborg politics and interspecies intimacies in ecologies of love and violence."

It is real. Biden was funding it.

I am sure the French will benefit massively from the influx of academic talent in intersectional diversity studies and, er, bestiality.

And the US would certainly not be put out be losing experts in epidemiology, infectious diseases and immunology, not even with a measles epidemic at large. Not when cod-ler oil is such an effective treatment.

There is no measles epidemic in the USA. The last few years have been quite quiet.

Now in Europe....

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy9dyp8e81zo

https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/03/1161086

"Queer canine becomings: Lesbian feminist cyborg politics and interspecies intimacies in ecologies of love and violence.

It is real. Biden was funding it."

I just had to look that up and it is real - brilliant! Can't read the whole thing though as I don't have the right subscription.

But as for "Biden was funding it", the Disclosure Statement says "The author(s) reported there is no funding associated with the work featured in this article.". So no, Biden wasn't funding it, nobody was.

The interests of those interested in moving are elaborated in another place as “health (LGBT+ medicine, epidemiology, infectious diseases, inequalities, immunology, etc.), environment and climate change (natural disaster management, greenhouse gases, social impact, artificial intelligence), humanities and social sciences (communication, psychology, history, cultural heritage), astrophysics.”

Possibly one of those might fit in with your epithet but a good deal of it is straightforward science. However given the fact that the US govt's health secretary is suggesting cod-liver oil as the way to deal with a serious measles outbreak in Texas maybe it stretches to cover epidemiology, infectious diseases and immunology out of that list.

"If you hadn't realised it already, Europe is broke"

Yes, the Russian AC's and fifth columnists have trotted this for years now. Ludicrous comment. SAD.

"has horrendous energy prices"

Electricity is way cheaper in Europe than in US.

Electricity is way cheaper in Europe than in US.

Stop trolling, it's pathetic.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263492/electricity-prices-in-selected-countries/

That's the household price...

Not the price paid by an university that needs to power stuff like MRI, Particle accelerators and more...

"Electricity is way cheaper in Europe than in US."

Citation needed. You do realise that cheaper means the number is smaller?

CERN is in Europe. The European (CEA) WEST Tokamak reactor is around the corner of Aix. ITER is being build there too. They are going to build a a big $40B AI data center somewhere in France. There is also a gravital wave telescope (Virgo) close by in northern Italy and another one is being planning somewhere in Europe.

That is just fundamental physics.

We expect our trolls here to have at least ONE grey cell.

You can't even use Google translate, it's études over there.

"can't even use Google translate, it's études over there."

I was curious about les queer studies leaving études aside I wondered about "queer" appears it's an English loan word as pédé is rather impolite.

Even so I would have thought perhaps les études queers .

A hitchhiker's guide to [1]French LGBTQ Vocabulary must give the Académie Française nightmares.

In AU female truck drivers aren't all that uncommon especially in the mining industry but in the unlikely event the subject should arise in French conversation I must apparently avoid the obvious formation from camionneur. ;)

[1] https://www.frenchtoday.com/blog/french-vocabulary/french-lgbtq-vocabulary/

I'd say travelo for queer.

But it's still a bit inapropriate.

Now there's always La Cage aux Folles.

but the reference is going to be lost by any less than two working neuron 'Murican troll.

It used to be a phenomenon where European scientists fearful that their ethnicity might be considered undesirable, moved to the USA. As I remember the US did rather well out of it.

Although all those guys in the Manhattan project would probably be considered DEI hires now

We have a language advantage and goodness knows America is going to lose some very smart people as they shutter their universities and research institutions.

If they're determined to turn the country into a smoking crater where's the harm in a bit of opportunism from the rest of us?

The UK, that's just announced an unexpected economic contraction and lost 11,000 millionaires in 2024? That place? Where exactly do you think research funding comes from?

An anti-growth Labour government and Starmer's personal obsession with prodding the Russian bear will result in the UK becoming a smoking crater long before America.

Sorta funny how people are freaking out over Starmer closing down Davey Cameron's NHS England quango.

HA

If the UK becomes a smoking crater long before the US, the 'long' would defined as about 35-40 minutes

As it would take about 8mins for our tridents to get to St Petersburg.

Of course USSR early warning would not be able to tell who launched them and therefore launch everything back. followed by the USA.

War : Fought by people who dont know and dont hate each, on behalf of people who do know and do hate each other.

UK universities are already cutting posts and in some cases entire departments.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, better the smoking crater you know...

... So, how about Canada?

The USA hasn't "shuttered" any universities or research institutions. Some funding was paused, pending review by the new bureaucrats. It's not like we're firing the entire Physics or CS department at Stanford or UCLA.

You can have the gender studies crowd—if they want to self-deport, I'll gladly help them.

Wow, nice sensationalism. "shuttered any universities" - even with the NIH cuts I really don't think that's going to happen. Unless the basic cost of higher education goes so high that folks really can't find a way to buy groceries and beer and have anything left over for the college tuition.

All they have to do is censor researchers whose interests lead them into the wrong areas. Grant money is already difficult to get as it is, it wouldn't take a very heavy finger on the scale to defund the unpopular researchers, regardless of the nature of their projects. Wrong ancestry? Wrong ideas? Educated in the wrong country? Don't like their face? Simples.

I see your research into exactly what disciplines hasn't progressed very far. Unless you consider the sort of epidemics vaccination helps control, environment and even astrophysics* as "gender studies".

* Maybe you're thinking about on-binary stars?

It should be noted that the current American obsession against “woke” has precedent, [1]and [2]it's [3]an [4]ugly one.

I dunno, man… maybe history doesn't repeat itself, but it sure as hell seems to rhyme.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_for_the_Restoration_of_the_Professional_Civil_Service

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahnenerbe

Suggesting your political opposition are Nazis. Never seen that one before.

Save that BS for Xwitter.

If they behave like the Nazis did.

If they persecute the same sort of people as the Nazis did.

If they suppress academia like the Nazis did.

If they salute like the Nazis did.

Well there might just be a good reason to describe them as such.

Two thin-skinned snowflake Nazis didn't like your post.

The joke used to be:

Canada could have had French Culture, British Politics and American Technology. Instead, we got American Culture, French Politics, and British Technology.

Perhaps the Brains would like to Drain to The Great White North instead? And we could have American Technology after all!

That's if we don't become the much more bigly and much more safely 51st State...

With all due respect for my northern neighbors, that *is* a funny joke. Thx for sharing!

It isn't too much to ask, to have a team built on merit alone. We real people know that a great engineer is a great engineer regardless of their identity.

A lovely idea in theory. However people who know better want equity where merit goes out the window and a desire to skew reality to fit their own desires takes over. It does not matter if someone is not qualified, just that they fulfil the requirement of equity.

Obviously this does not apply to things like oil rig workers, bin men, street cleaners, mine workers.. you know, everything that is dangerous, is hard work and is not very glamorous.

Unfortunately for your theory, actual real scientists are concluding that there is systemic bias in science. Look up the Royal Society of Chemistry's "Missing Elements" report. Some of it is due to bad people, some to bad systems, but you can't deny that "it is there", as Galileo might have said.

Chainsaw or Aix? Interesting choice.

All those from the US who moved to France love it there! But you should learn the language as soon as possible, start before coming to France. I've been told that English is not as common as it is here, at least in the rural areas. But there is also Spain, Portugal, Italy, Switzerland, Austria, Czech and so on. Only those who thought they can easily put their US car on EU roads were disappointed, since many of those are deemed not safe enough (some minor local differences exist though). You know, there is no cybertruck in EU on public roads for a reason.

So you do need to actively integrate into society? Got it!