It begins: Pentagon to give AI agents a role in decision making, ops planning
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The value of the contract, awarded as part of the US Defense Innovation Unit's [1]Thunderforge project , wasn't specified, though given its considerable scope it's likely to be a large one. According to data labeling and AI training outfit Scale today, [2]the contract will see it leading a team including [3]Palmer Luckey's Anduril and [4]Copilot-obsessed Microsoft to implement the US Department of Defense's "first foray into integrating AI agents in and across military workflows."
According to the DIU's Thunderforge project leader Bryce Goodman, transforming military decisionmaking with AI is something that's pivotal to sustaining US military dominance.
Thunderforge brings AI-powered analysis and automation to operational and strategic planning
"Today's military planning processes rely on decades-old technology and methodologies, creating a fundamental mismatch between the speed of modern warfare and our ability to respond," Goodman said. "Thunderforge brings AI-powered analysis and automation to operational and strategic planning, allowing decision-makers to operate at the pace required for emerging conflicts."
The end goal of the project, the DIU said, is to help military decision-makers pore over and assess more info more quickly and make judgement calls more rapidly based on AI suggestions. Thunderforge AI will be used to support mission planning and campaign development, help allocate resources at the theater level, and make strategic assessments. We're given the impression humans make all the final decisions, albeit ones guided by software.
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The AI agents – [6]a fancy word for bot – can carry out table-top war-gaming to simulate outcomes for leaders, plan scenarios, "and refine proposed courses of action," the DIU said.
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It appears the automated system will be tested in the real world, with both the DIU and Scale indicating it's rolling out at some unspecified time to the US Indo-Pacific Command headquartered in Hawaii, and to what for now is the US European Command based in Germany.
The Pentagon has plans to scale it across all 11 of its combatant commands after its initial deployment.
... a decisive shift toward AI-powered, data-driven warfare, ensuring US forces can anticipate and respond to threats with speed and precision
"Thunderforge marks a decisive shift toward AI-powered, data-driven warfare, ensuring US forces can anticipate and respond to threats with speed and precision," the DIU said.
Anduril's role in Thunderforge will see it supplying its Lattice software platform, while Azure giant Microsoft will be handling the actual large language models. Scale's role will be in leveraging its agentic applications and generative AI evaluation expertise, the DIU said.
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"Our AI solutions will transform today's military operating process and modernize American defense," said Scale founder and CEO Alexandr Wang.
Safety not guaranteed?
The use of AI for defense purposes has been a divisive issue in the tech world, with Googlers [10]fired last year for protesting the Chocolate Factory's role in providing cloud services to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, and Microsoft employees [11]terminated last month for making similar complaints.
Indeed, [12]Israel , for one, already uses Made-in-America AI models in war.
Google has [13]walked back previous promises to not use AI for weapons development, spying and violating international norms, [14]as has OpenAI.
[15]Maybe cancel that ChatGPT therapy session – it doesn't respond well to tales of trauma
[16]Flanked by Palantir and AWS, Anthropic's Claude marches into US defense intelligence
[17]Defense AI models 'a risk to life' alleges spurned tech firm
[18]Mental toll: Scale AI, Outlier sued by humans paid to steer AI away from our darkest depths
[19]We can't make this stuff up: Palantir, Anduril form fellowship for AI adventures
The American military has been [20]increasingly [21]integrating artificial intelligence into its operations, with Scale even scoring a Dept of Defense contract last year to work on integrating generative AI for various non-combat purposes, such as compiling after-action reports, measuring performance, and the like.
What now for the US and former allies as Trump turns to Putin? [22]READ MORE
As with all things AI related, there's the question of the safety and reliability of LLMs and similar machine-learning models, as well as their ability to return real and correct information, something neither Scale nor the DIU addressed in their statements about Thunderforge.
Scale did mention that Thunderforge AI will always act "under human oversight," but that's the only mention of safety by either organization. We reached out to both Scale and the DIU for further details, and as yet haven't heard back. ®
Apropos of nothing... The LA Times just pulled offline a bot it was running on its website, which summarized and offered counterpoints to articles, because it [23]defended the Ku Klux Klan under a column about the notorious White supremacist group being run out of Orange County a century ago. The automated editorial AI agent had been live for one day.
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[1] https://www.diu.mil/latest/dius-thunderforge-project-to-integrate-commercial-ai-powered-decision-making
[2] https://scale.com/blog/thunderforge-ai-for-american-defense
[3] https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/09/palantir_anduril_alliance/
[4] https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/05/microsoft_teases_sales_agent_automation/
[5] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_software/aiml&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2Z8jXjdJudNbAEDmQc2z1MwAAABI&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0
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[10] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/22/google_project_nimbus_firings/
[11] https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-ai-technology-microsoft-gaza-lebanon-90541d4130d4900c719d34ebcd67179d
[12] https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-ai-technology-737bc17af7b03e98c29cec4e15d0f108
[13] https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/05/google_ai_principles_update/
[14] https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/15/ai_in_brief/
[15] https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/05/traumatic_content_chatgpt_anxious/
[16] https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/07/anthropic_palantir_aws_claude/
[17] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/06/defense_ai_models_risk/
[18] https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/24/scale_ai_outlier_sued_over/
[19] https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/09/palantir_anduril_alliance/
[20] https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/29/us_army_scylla_ai/
[21] https://www.theregister.com/2024/03/08/palantir_wins_us_army_contract/
[22] https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/04/russia_cyber_threat/
[23] https://www.sfgate.com/la/article/la-times-ai-tool-sympathizes-kkk-20202315.php
[24] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/
Re: Thunderforge?
Yes, Thunderforge, stubbornly failing to understand Tic-Tac-Toe.
At least the name is a good bang sparking hot flames to melt the atmosphere.
Or given today's relations with Russia
Skynyet
(Needs work)
Re: Or given today's relations with Russia
And it is talking pravda?
Re: Thunderforge?
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to - let you live, meatbags"
What..
could possibly go wrong?
Re: What..
Until recently, the competition would have been the reasoned consideration of experienced military personnel and AI might have been at a disadvantage. Now, it only has to perform better than the whimiscal musings of the Führer of Inferior Canada , so perhaps there's scope for it to be an improvement.
LMeverlovingAO
Microsoft and fox news in charge of the us military.
We are DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED. Just start digging the doom shelter now.
Re: LMeverlovingAO
If you are located on US continent: Yep, and dig deep! I hope it does not make the leap to Europe...
under human oversight
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Oh well, that's OK then, because no human ever just did what the computer told them.
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We've seen time and again AI systems discriminate against poor people, black people, and implement the biases (conscious or subconscious) of their programmers. See the Register's extensive archive of AI failures. Now we'll love AI or feel its wrath.
"I see you are trying to
Invade Greenland; would you like some help with that?"
Select:
1) Wth is Greenland anyway?
2) Why? Just - why?
Thunderforge?
They missed a trick there. Should have named it WOPR.
Where's my dial up modem so I can play a game...