Kelsey Hightower on dodging AI and the need for a glossary of IT terms
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Acclaimed engineer, former mover and shaker within Google, and lately non-executive Director for Civo (he says "mostly in an advisory capacity"), Hightower told us last year he planned to [1]sit out the generative AI wave that is washing over the industry.
Hightower reiterated his intention "to avoid this wave of AI altogether" over the weekend in a [2]post on Bluesky: "If they are willing to spend time and money training artificial intelligence, why wouldn't I do the same for the real thing."
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Dodging the current AI wave has not stopped the engineer from taking a long look at the technology landscape and bemoaning the industry's habit of using new words to describe the same old things and calling for cloud technology to scale down as well as scale up.
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Hightower has a point – agents might be all the rage, but a scratch beneath the surface shows software. Some are just connectors. Others are just utilities in smart suits. Hightower wants a glossary of definitions to remove the mystique that might work well for stock prices but is less good for engineers.
An agent is, after all, just software to deal with data.
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"Give us that glossary," he laughs during a chat with The Register , "so we can understand what we're evaluating here!" As far as Hightower is concerned, generative AIs and LLMs are black boxes that need to be decoded and understood.
"The more people who go work at companies like OpenAI and Nvidia, and then leave, and then start to tell the stories about how it was working inside the machine, then we all start getting clarity. What happened with DeepSeek was a moment of clarity."
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Hightower acknowledges the shrieks of protest from some AI vendors, [8]notably OpenAI : "They stole our stuff!" but ultimately he sees the incident as just another checkpoint: "So we're all getting deeper into the black box and then, over time, the black box becomes just another component in the software stack, and then we'll all move on to the next thing..."
"The fear," he says, "is that if people look in the black box and realize there's no magic in there… then what happens to the industry?"
According to Hightower, some people might respond with a panicked "We need this excitement for the stock market!" There are certainly more than a few impressive company valuations based on the promise of AI, even if much of it tends to be more AutoComplete than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Hightower's take regarding AI appears at odds with that of Civo, which last week promoted the US launch of its Flexcore appliance and its sovereign Relax.ai. During the keynote and the company's US Navigate event, CEO Mark Boost said AI tools had the potential to allow engineers to describe their needs rather than using code.
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In typical fashion, Hightower tells The Reg : "You are all free to do whatever you want. So, if you just want to be an architect that draws boxes, then so be it. I will not be participating in that. I will choose to continue to understand what's in the box."
Sadly not every engineer is as free to reject the demands of management fully engaged with the AI hype sweeping the industry.
Bringing the data back home
Civo launched the FlexCore appliance, a 2U chassis containing the company's software stack, in the North American market at its US Navigate event amid reports that enterprises are seriously considering repatriating cloud workloads in the face of increasing costs.
According to Civo commissioned research, 82 percent of senior IT leaders plan to shift more workloads over the next 12 months, with more organizations expecting to increase their private cloud spending.
Civo's CTO, Dinesh Majrekar, told The Register that cost is becoming increasingly significant in decision-making. "You're talking to CFOs who used to sign a check for hardware that lasted three or five years, who are now spending that much a month in the public cloud. And a lot of the conversation about repatriation is coming from that way."
AI aside, Hightower is using his advisory position at Civo to make suggestions regarding the company's approach to its FlexCore appliance. One resulted in a keynote demonstration of setting up a private cloud using the device, manageable from the same pane as the company's other services.
The FlexCore appliance was launched in the North American market last week and includes Civo's complete software stack. Civo is in the process of deploying the appliance in its own datacenters, meaning customers can have a private appliance identical to the hardware used by Civo's own cloud.
The private region concept is what interests Hightower as it closes a gap in the markt not served by the cloud giants. "If you're a small country on the map that no major cloud provider has on the list of coming soon regions, you're out; you're not even on the revenue projections. No one cares."
Hightower is looking to the future. Not only one where a FlexCore box can be connected anywhere to meet specific corporate or regulatory needs, or accelerate the region roll-out but one where owner/operators might even be able to make available spare capacity on their appliances.
"That would be an amazing possibility." ®
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Re: Stop
Yeah and you need an advisor for each level it seems. Should be awesome.
CEO: Ok, so this finalises the meeting about electrons. Let's pencil in a session next week to see how wire fits into this whole thing.
*6 months later after 50 meetings at each level*
CEO: I see, but what has this all got to do with my Outlook calendar syncing issues? I just want to delete that recurring meeting that got stuck.
Advisor: Ok, lets rewind a little bit, I'll get the electron guy back in, just a sec.
A glossary of IT terms...
A.I. - just software to deal with data.
O.S. - just software to deal with data.
Agent - just software to deal with data.
Connectors - just software to deal with data.
Driver - just software to deal with data.
Apps - just software to deal with data.
LLMs - just software to deal with data.
Flexcore appliance - just software to deal with data.
Etc. etc. etc...
Hang on a minute...
...my head is hurting here.
We have a guy in an advisory position, specifically there to understand something, interpret things and provide advice...and he's calling for the area he's supposed to understand be easier to understand because he doesn't understand it?
I think these guys might need a new advisor.
CEO: Let's hire an advisor, I don't understand any of this. Hire someone to explain this to me.
The Advisor: Ok, I'm here what do you need me to understand and advise on?
CEO: This here.
The Advisor: I see, well that's pretty difficult to understand. Before I can advise on it, I need someone to explain it to me.
Re: Hang on a minute...
He's calling for that in order to call out and reduce the proliferation of undefined terminology aka buzzwords found when playing bullshit bingo.
It's not actually a bad idea. A common marketing tactic is to introduce a large amount of meaningless bullshit terminology and then exclaim
The idea of course being for a non technical manager to keep quiet instead of correctly calling them out on a meaningless word salad. Having a standard glossary would deter people from inventing new words to try and prevent understanding of their products. That last sentence also explains why it won't happen without need for further elaboration.
Re: Hang on a minute...
"The idea of course being for a non technical manager to keep quiet instead of correctly calling them out on a meaningless word salad"
I do that already, I don't need a pamphlet with a glossary to attack word salad, we already have standardised terminology for technical use...the marketing bullshit exists as a thin veneer over the technical stuff to allow consumers to understand it...it's marketing people and salesmen that take advantage of that...not techies...I don't feel any obligation at all to simplify and redefine standard terminology to make it "more accessible" it is what it is.
Remove AI terminology for a moment, and focus on other technical "jargon".
8 bits is 1 byte.
To us, that makes perfect sense...we are trained professionals and we have learned why that statement is true and what it means. To someone that isn't trained and hasn't learned anything about tech, that statement reads like abstract bollocks...it raises more questions than it answers.
As a professional in tech, I automatically cut through the word salad to get to the technical nitty gritty of things all the time...I don't care if a Sega Megadrive has "Blast Processing" what matters to me is the actual technical specifications...specifications I understand because I learned how to understand them...man on the street doesn't give a shit about the specs and wouldn't understand them even if you gave them to him...which is why complicated specs are wrapped into something called "blast processing".
The same is true of AI, LLMs...whatever you want to call them...the technical information is out there and you can to certain extent derive it from the models themselves, but unless you've specifically learned about certain areas of maths and computer science, it will always appear to be abstract bollocks...the only way to understand it, is learn the science and maths around it.
Otherwise you'll always see "wibbly wobbly timey wimey" sort of word salad jargon that means nothing.
Re: Hang on a minute...
"8 bits is 1 byte."
You've just proved the point. "8 bits is 1 byte." is b*ll*cks
8 bits are not always a byte. Just because they are in some architectures or languages doesn't mean it's universal.
Bytes can be any size, and have been 4 bits 6 bits, 7 bits, 9 bits, 12 bits, 16 bits, 18 bits, 24 bits, 32 bits, 36 bits and 40 bits.
Some still are.
You'll be claiming you can't have 24-bit or 31-bit addressing next.
Brilliant...
I'm going to try this approach with my boss later when he asks me to investigate something.
Boss: Take a look at this, can you figure it out?
Me: It's just software really.
"AI tools had the potential to allow engineers to describe their needs rather than using code"
Just in CASE....
Erm...
"You are all free to do whatever you want. So, if you just want to be an architect that draws boxes, then so be it. I will not be participating in that. I will choose to continue to understand what's in the box."
There's nothing in the box, following the context here.
I understand what he's getting at, but this line is so clunky it's dumb.
Listen to my quiet voice
You're at an AI business seminar. You are feeling drowsy. There is nothing in the box. There is nothing up my sleeve. It's just software. Transfer the money to this account...
SNAP - you're back in the room.
Stop
So, if you just want to be an architect that draws boxes, then so be it. I will not be participating in that. I will choose to continue to understand what's in the box.
But where do you stop? Do you stop at the code? The compiler? The CPU? Do you ever check what the compiler spits out, see what instructions it generates, what registers it touches? Do you look at how it schedules instructions, whether it plays nicely with the pipeline, how the branch predictor handles your conditionals?
Do you even know what the microcode is doing under the hood? Have you ever delidded a CPU and taken a look at the silicon? Do you have a microscope? Do you even know what you're looking at?
Where does it end? Do you start tracing electron paths, mapping out gate delays, questioning the very fabric of computation? If you’re not willing to dig that deep, then maybe you’re just drawing boxes too- you’ve just convinced yourself they’re fancier.